How can I remove my character's top?

Xithian · May 2014

Also, either threads are being flagged to receive no updates to the "most recent" post time for sorting purposes (quietly censored), or the forum is horribly buggy.

This is the second thread I've noted in two days that appears stuck at a certain time. It will never appear at the top of the thread list no matter how recent the last post.

Can anyone confirm that this isn't just a bug for me individually?

dolmen · May 2014

3:20 Yep confirmed

Xithian · May 2014

So it's still on page 2 for you as well? Says last post was yesterday.

Archmage · May 2014

Xithian wrote: »

Male: Creates a male character in ESO. Has underwear by default.
Female: Creates a male character in ESO. Has underwear by default.

Male: Creates a female character in ESO. Has underwear and top by default.
Female: Creates a female character in ESO. Has underwear and top by default.

Looks pretty equal to me. Also, I'm pretty sure the males a much more interested in seeing topless female avatars than the females are on average, yet both are equally denied. You are talking about the appearance of an avatar that can be used by anyone of any gender, not any one person's rights. An avatar does not have rights. The player does, and all players are treated equally in this case.

You can complain about the game's portrayal of women all you want (although honestly, ESO is about the least sexist game I've played in memory), but it is not an issue of rights in the way you presented it. You could have simply asked why males do not have an undershirt on by default. What you did instead was intentionally use real world issues to create a spawning ground for argument.

I won't bother with the litany of things you got wrong here, but you are correct in that it's not a rights issue. However, it displays the pervasive double-standard in American society.

The male character removes its armor and has a bare chest. The female character is depicted with a black top. This is sexism. pure and simple. If both characters had tops or both were bare, then it would not be an issue.

Sexism is wrong, in games or real life.

Xithian · May 2014

Archmage wrote: »

I won't bother with the litany of things you got wrong here, but you are correct in that it's not a rights issue.

Litany? The entire point of my post was "it's not a rights issue", which you say is correct.

Also, did you ever stop to think that maybe you're projecting a bit? I'm pretty sure a bra is a functional garment first and foremost, and one that any adventurer would wear out of necessity. You may as well ask why men play basketball topless and women don't. You could play indoors in a private setting and this would still be the case. It's not because of sexism...it's because an hour of jumping, running, and jostling topless would hurt like hell for most women.

Brb, I'm gonna go try running commando in plate armor for comparison.

Dayel · May 2014

When I am playing and see a topless or otherwise semi-nude female running about, I assume that she is playing a game, just not the same one most of the rest of us are playing.

Also in many countries, including the U.S. a bra functions the same way as a profanity filter in the game. Flopping breasts are not only offensive to many, they are aesthetically yuck to coin a phrase.

purple-magicb16_ESO · July 2014

rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »

I recommend Age of Conan for all your topless women needs .... there are hordes of them.

Quite a lot of sites on the internet cater to that very desire too,

After all, it's what the internet was invented for.

Hmmmmm.... hordes you say?

Iink · March 2016

PROBLEM SOLVED: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/251486/my-character-is-nude-and-so-are-the-npcs-is-this-happening-to-anybody-else