PTS Patch Notes v2.3.4

Xsorus · February 2016

Bashev wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Still no Meteor reflect-able ?? Really despite all the threads saying no the idea ?

And nerfing magelight and flares just cause of NB crying ? Really ?

Flare was actually buffed.

I was worried about it being nerfed when they dropped the Duration...But nope...That bloody Scorching Flare is nasty as hell now...

To give ya an idea..It went from requiring I think from requiring 6-8 seconds on Live to do 20k damage..to 5 Seconds...Now down to 3 seconds.

So if you get hit by scorching flare now...It does a crap ton more damage per tic

If this true then it is good. I was afraid that they kept the duration of the DoT to 5 seconds.

Yea that was my fear..That they were basically going to nerf its damage by dropping it to 3 seconds

Now its actually a viable choice over Magelight..

You can choose Magelight and get some passive damage over time via crit..magicka increase..Or you can go Scorching Flare and gain a powerful dot to use if someone cloaks but useless otherwise.

Husan · February 2016

Anyone can do well against terrible players that don't cc break and hit like wet noodles. Try looking at what the X people are doing in most of the 1vX videos. Especially on the console videos. There are some really bad players in ESO, I can 1vX against them with my templar all day. As soon as an equally skilled magicka sorc or stamina nightblade or DK shows up though..

dimensional · February 2016

IDK, I've seen some high level duels between every class and build imaginable and I've seen every outcome possible. I think it largely depends on playstyle and circumstance more than anything.

Zheg · February 2016

dimensional wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

Still no love for Templars.

Seriously, the only reason I can justify playing this class still is that I'm primarily a healer. As DPS, I'm awful in comparison to any other class, regardless of what I try to do. I can't even keep up with NBs and Sorcs that are grinding because they move at a permanent +40% speed and virtually one-shot everything, leaving me trailing behind and finishing off their scraps.

Oh, and why am I grinding? Because the champion point changes for this next update are the biggest "buff" I'll see, and I'm hoping it will help. Like someone previously stated in this thread, we're so desperate for buffs that we're considering universal improvements to all classes to be buffs for Templars.

I see Templars absolutely destroying people in PvP all the time. Look up Lefty Lucy's channel on Youtube, in every single PvP video of the week he shows different templars, both stam and magicka, completely wrecking people. IDK what to tell you.

Is he fighting in lag or in the middle of a populated keep fight, or is he in the sewers or the middle of a field or resource somewhere? A class shouldn't be artificially hampered by being channel/cast heavy because wrobel thinks it's cute and doesn't want 'homogenization' when we have to play in the same lag as everyone else but their skills are more reliable. If he's able to play solo during a keep fight where the bombard spam outpaces your own purify spam and you're still permarooted next patch, and he can still wreck people, then we can talk. Go ahead and try using that super strong dark flare in even modest lag, then count the tbags you get as you die because your skill doesn't fire off or gets reflected and you can no longer bounce it back or purify it.

People like him and blab can be exceptional Templars, but they aren't fighting in the same kinds of fights the majority of Templars are during primetime. Apples and oranges.

No, I'm talking about several different people, submitting several different videos, all with their own different builds and in different situations. Left Lucy streams his own playing, but he compiles weekly videos of people that send submissions to him on Youtube. Look up his channel and see the plethora of different Templars that do monstrously well in PvP.

This is the kind of hollow argument that wrobel sees and allows him to justify his terrible class balance work. I wreck people on my Templar at times as well, but I'm not oblivious to the flaws of the class, nor am I oblivious to the fact that I could perform just as well if not better on one of my other classes. The feedback thread doesn't reach 2k + posts where the vast majority echo the same issues if the class is in as good shape as you imply. Some of the best Templars in the game mirror the same general feedback in that thread.

If I compiled a few videos of exceptional players on magicka DK right now, does that mean the incoming buffs next patch shouldn't happen? Don't think so.

And no, I'm not going to look him up, I play with and against some of the best Templars every night, I have my own experience to pull from thanks.

dimensional · February 2016

Zheg wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

jrgray93 wrote: »

Still no love for Templars.

Seriously, the only reason I can justify playing this class still is that I'm primarily a healer. As DPS, I'm awful in comparison to any other class, regardless of what I try to do. I can't even keep up with NBs and Sorcs that are grinding because they move at a permanent +40% speed and virtually one-shot everything, leaving me trailing behind and finishing off their scraps.

Oh, and why am I grinding? Because the champion point changes for this next update are the biggest "buff" I'll see, and I'm hoping it will help. Like someone previously stated in this thread, we're so desperate for buffs that we're considering universal improvements to all classes to be buffs for Templars.

I see Templars absolutely destroying people in PvP all the time. Look up Lefty Lucy's channel on Youtube, in every single PvP video of the week he shows different templars, both stam and magicka, completely wrecking people. IDK what to tell you.

Is he fighting in lag or in the middle of a populated keep fight, or is he in the sewers or the middle of a field or resource somewhere? A class shouldn't be artificially hampered by being channel/cast heavy because wrobel thinks it's cute and doesn't want 'homogenization' when we have to play in the same lag as everyone else but their skills are more reliable. If he's able to play solo during a keep fight where the bombard spam outpaces your own purify spam and you're still permarooted next patch, and he can still wreck people, then we can talk. Go ahead and try using that super strong dark flare in even modest lag, then count the tbags you get as you die because your skill doesn't fire off or gets reflected and you can no longer bounce it back or purify it.

People like him and blab can be exceptional Templars, but they aren't fighting in the same kinds of fights the majority of Templars are during primetime. Apples and oranges.

No, I'm talking about several different people, submitting several different videos, all with their own different builds and in different situations. Left Lucy streams his own playing, but he compiles weekly videos of people that send submissions to him on Youtube. Look up his channel and see the plethora of different Templars that do monstrously well in PvP.

This is the kind of hollow argument that wrobel sees and allows him to justify his terrible class balance work. I wreck people on my Templar at times as well, but I'm not oblivious to the flaws of the class, nor am I oblivious to the fact that I could perform just as well if not better on one of my other classes. The feedback thread doesn't reach 2k + posts where the vast majority echo the same issues if the class is in as good shape as you imply. Some of the best Templars in the game mirror the same general feedback in that thread.

If I compiled a few videos of exceptional players on magicka DK right now, does that mean the incoming buffs next patch shouldn't happen? Don't think so.

And no, I'm not going to look him up, I play with and against some of the best Templars every night, I have my own experience to pull from thanks.

It wasn't an argument ffs, I'm just pointing out that plenty of people do extremely well with the class despite all of the moaning. And it isn't a "few" videos, it's quite a lot of people, so I don't think what you're saying applies to this at all.

And if you don't look up his videos and watch what I'm talking about, you have no relevant points to make in regards to what I am referencing.

Abeille · February 2016

Husan wrote: »

Anyone can do well against terrible players that don't cc break and hit like wet noodles. Try looking at what the X people are doing in most of the 1vX videos. Especially on the console videos. There are some really bad players in ESO, I can 1vX against them with my templar all day. As soon as an equally skilled magicka sorc or stamina nightblade or DK shows up though..

Yup. Whenever I see someone saying "player x destroys everybody as a templar", I immediately think "They must be very skilled. Imagine what they would be able to do with a Magicka Sorcerer".

Either way, my main issue with Templars is their lack of mobility. They have a lot of skills that keep them rooted or confined to a small area (or casting their shiny circles over and over as they run around because, you know, the combat in this game is action-based so lack of mobility kills you). I don't really like that. They can make Dark Flare burn people to the bones and I still won't be happy, because I want mobility.

dimensional · February 2016

Abeille wrote: »

Husan wrote: »

Anyone can do well against terrible players that don't cc break and hit like wet noodles. Try looking at what the X people are doing in most of the 1vX videos. Especially on the console videos. There are some really bad players in ESO, I can 1vX against them with my templar all day. As soon as an equally skilled magicka sorc or stamina nightblade or DK shows up though..

Yup. Whenever I see someone saying "player x destroys everybody as a templar", I immediately think "They must be very skilled. Imagine what they would be able to do with a Magicka Sorcerer".

Either way, my main issue with Templars is their lack of mobility. They have a lot of skills that keep them rooted or confined to a small area (or casting their shiny circles over and over as they run around because, you know, the combat in this game is action-based so lack of mobility kills you). I don't really like that. They can make Dark Flare burn people to the bones and I still won't be happy, because I want mobility.

A lot of those players who do extremely well with one class also play other classes, including magicka sorc. They aren't always better with the class that everyone thinks is better. Playstyle matters!

Nifty2g · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno could you elaborate on the effect cross-faction trials will have on leaderboards? Will alliance still be represented on the boards?

Your alliance isn't actually changing, it'll just appear that way while you're in the Trial (code reasons). This won't affect the leaderboard at all; you'll still be listed as your proper, original alliance.

Would it be possible to relook at Scathing Mage @ZOS_GinaBruno at the moment Julianos is only slightly better, I think Scathing Mage should be slightly better than it due to being a dropped item set incredibly hard to get. I'd love to farm these dungeons.
Could we maybe look at adjusting it to 25% - 30%

Idinuse · February 2016

Ravalox wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ravalox wrote: »

Has anyone been successful in launching the 64Bit PTS Client? It crashes on launch for me every time.

Yep it works for me. Windows 10.

Thanks; I'm on Win7 ... Anyone on Win7 get it to work?

Under Win7 64-bit, the 64-bit client works like a charm (apart from some graphic glitches), meanwhile I still have the same 0xc000007b error on launching the 64-bit client under Windows 10 64-bit.

Enodoc · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Quests & Zones
General
Players in all alliances can now travel by boat to Abah's Landing freely as long as you have access to the Thieves Guild DLC game pack.

This is good, but please don't force the Thieves Guild skill line on everyone just because they enter Abah's Landing. People who would take the boat to Hew's Bane may want to avoid the Thieves Guild but still explore the zone, so they shouldn't be forced to have a skill line that they won't use. The skill line should be attached to completion of Partners in Crime, not arriving in Abah's Landing.

dimensional · March 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Quests & Zones
General
Players in all alliances can now travel by boat to Abah's Landing freely as long as you have access to the Thieves Guild DLC game pack.

This is good, but please don't force the Thieves Guild skill line on everyone just because they enter Abah's Landing. People who would take the boat to Hew's Bane may want to avoid the Thieves Guild but still explore the zone, so they shouldn't be forced to have a skill line that they won't use. The skill line should be attached to completion of Partners in Crime, not arriving in Abah's Landing.

You only advance in the skill line through participation in the Thieves Guild itself, so you have nothing to worry about.

Enodoc · March 2016

dimensional wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Quests & Zones
General
Players in all alliances can now travel by boat to Abah's Landing freely as long as you have access to the Thieves Guild DLC game pack.

This is good, but please don't force the Thieves Guild skill line on everyone just because they enter Abah's Landing. People who would take the boat to Hew's Bane may want to avoid the Thieves Guild but still explore the zone, so they shouldn't be forced to have a skill line that they won't use. The skill line should be attached to completion of Partners in Crime, not arriving in Abah's Landing.

You only advance in the skill line through participation in the Thieves Guild itself, so you have nothing to worry about.

I know you do, but people may not want a useless empty skill line knocking around in the UI. Besides, it's counterintuitive to receive the skill line without ever joining the guild.

dimensional · March 2016

Enodoc wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Quests & Zones
General
Players in all alliances can now travel by boat to Abah's Landing freely as long as you have access to the Thieves Guild DLC game pack.

This is good, but please don't force the Thieves Guild skill line on everyone just because they enter Abah's Landing. People who would take the boat to Hew's Bane may want to avoid the Thieves Guild but still explore the zone, so they shouldn't be forced to have a skill line that they won't use. The skill line should be attached to completion of Partners in Crime, not arriving in Abah's Landing.

You only advance in the skill line through participation in the Thieves Guild itself, so you have nothing to worry about.

I know you do, but people may not want a useless empty skill line knocking around in the UI. Besides, it's counterintuitive to receive the skill line without ever joining the guild.

It's easily ignored and it barely takes up any screen real estate, I don't think this is much of a problem tbh. And you don't really receive the skill line in-as-much as it becomes unlocked.

Ravalox · March 2016

Idinuse wrote: »

Ravalox wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ravalox wrote: »

Has anyone been successful in launching the 64Bit PTS Client? It crashes on launch for me every time.

Yep it works for me. Windows 10.

Thanks; I'm on Win7 ... Anyone on Win7 get it to work?

Under Win7 64-bit, the 64-bit client works like a charm (apart from some graphic glitches), meanwhile I still have the same 0xc000007b error on launching the 64-bit client under Windows 10 64-bit.

Thanks... interesting, seems to still have some issues then; we'll have to keep an eye on it and be sure to report our issues.

Enodoc · March 2016

dimensional wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Quests & Zones
General
Players in all alliances can now travel by boat to Abah's Landing freely as long as you have access to the Thieves Guild DLC game pack.

This is good, but please don't force the Thieves Guild skill line on everyone just because they enter Abah's Landing. People who would take the boat to Hew's Bane may want to avoid the Thieves Guild but still explore the zone, so they shouldn't be forced to have a skill line that they won't use. The skill line should be attached to completion of Partners in Crime, not arriving in Abah's Landing.

You only advance in the skill line through participation in the Thieves Guild itself, so you have nothing to worry about.

I know you do, but people may not want a useless empty skill line knocking around in the UI. Besides, it's counterintuitive to receive the skill line without ever joining the guild.

It's easily ignored and it barely takes up any screen real estate, I don't think this is much of a problem tbh. And you don't really receive the skill line in-as-much as it becomes unlocked.

Why should someone who never joins the Thieves Guild be stuck with a skill line they won't use and can never advance?

Why should someone who never joins the Thieves Guild be able to access Thieves Troves, which are supposedly a privilege set aside specifically for Guild members? Only Guild members should have access to Thieves Troves, not every Tom, [Richard] or Harry who happened to walk through Abah's Landing.

dimensional · March 2016

Why are there no toilets in Tamriel? Why do bards always sing the same 4 songs? Why are there two moons?

Answer: It's a video game. They aren't going to make every single little detail perfect or be able to make every single person happy with said details.

Personofsecrets · March 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno . There is little reason to buff the enemies and encounters of the new trial.

Personofsecrets · March 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno , I don't think that mobs which spawn from regular portals (different from mobs spawned by mechanics) ever have or can today drop collectibles. There has been something wrong with that collectible gaining in vDSA for ages and the issue has never gotten any acknowledgement

Zabus · March 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Alliance War
Vendors
Fixed an issue where a pair of greaves sold by Adhazabi Aba-daro the Golden was appearing with the Divines trait instead of the intended Infused trait.

So is this vendor ONLY going to sell pieces in infused?

Personofsecrets · March 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno , can barrier please effect 12 people so that it is viable in trials groups? No more PVP nerfs that are bad for PVE

Personofsecrets · March 2016

xsfkxnub19_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, BASE GAME PATCH

Alliance War
Vendors
Fixed an issue where a pair of greaves sold by Adhazabi Aba-daro the Golden was appearing with the Divines trait instead of the intended Infused trait.

So is this vendor ONLY going to sell pieces in infused?

@ZOS_GinaBruno , can you tell the devs not to screw up the best part of the thieves guild update (a chance to buy divines trait monster items)

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2016

So ZOS is of the opinion that Templars are now good to go?

70+ pages of feedback would seem to suggest otherwise. But what do we know... we're just the people who actually play Templars.

TRoclodyte · March 2016

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

So ZOS is of the opinion that Templars are now good to go?

70+ pages of feedback would seem to suggest otherwise. But what do we know... we're just the people who actually play Templars.

Yep. Good to go.

I'm good to go away.

SymbioteKing26 · March 2016

What was the deal with the combat animations thing they refer to? Did I miss something? :S

SymbioteKing26 · March 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Combat Animations
We have reverted the animation prioritization changes that were introduced in patch 2.3.0, and will release these changes once they’re ready. Combat animations will now work as they currently do on the Live megaservers.

Thank god. They need some substantial work.

Howdy! Could you please explain to me what animation prioritisation is? You sound knowledgeable

staracino_ESO · March 2016

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245038/official-feedback-thread-for-prioritization-of-combat-animations/

RoxyPhoenix · March 2016

The new content, whatever called however done is always nice to have, but it is not the thing ppl want most. What we want, what we need most is skills/items re-balance. 90% of threads in this forum section is about it. Dont you ppl at ZOS see that ? Every class has some skills that are broken, nonfunctional, or simply nerfed in to oblivion. Every skill tree in game got actives and passives that are completely useless or strait forward overpowered. These are the things you should be looking at, you should be fixing them with every regular maintenance and not periodically with upcoming DLCs. I dont care how hard it is, this is your job, do it!

Attackopsn · March 2016

Im glad to see that strife/sweeps/surge will now work on shields!

NerfPlease · March 2016

nice ignore from ZOs for my post...
they show us how they do not want to public the not pleasure info for community, but prefer to keep it in secret!

NerfPlease wrote: »

Hey dear lady @ZOS_GinaBruno , i have few questions and clarifications about itemization in TG DLC regarding to all patchnotes and my PTS tests!

1) 3 rewamped old sets obtainable from Thieves Troves:
Night Mothers Embrace

Shadow Dancer

Darkstride

they can be blue or purple quality, but not gold?
important question because they have jewerly parts

2) why Reward for Worthy on PTS contains only sets, and only 6 new sets?
it will change at live?
because if not, we will lost alot of sets:
this sets become avialable only from PVP-vendors and worthy rewards will not contain them?
the vengeance leech

the grace of the ancients

the eagle eye

the deadly strike

the blessing of the potentates

wrath of the imperium

vr14 versions of this sets still will be avialable at the PVP-vendors for AP, but vr16 deleted from Worthy rewards?
vr16 Arch-Mage

vr16 Elf Bane

vr16 Juggernaut

vr16 Affliction

vr16 Crusader

vr16 Sentry

vr16 Alessian order

vr16 Kyne kiss

Zheg · March 2016

Dude, there are 70+ pages of ignored templar posts - if you're already this frustrated over not getting a reply about gear sets, you'll never survive the ESO forums.