Parfax: "Argonians Are Not Good At Anything"

Takes-No-Prisoner · February 2016

kylewwefan wrote: »

I've found a great use for Argonian. Rob and kill everyone at the docks. When the guards come; swim away, they can't catch you.

It gets better when you have a Argonian NB. Steal/Kill/Plunder, Cast double take, cloak w/ Conceal on your weapon bar, and swim out to sea like your in a speed boat.

RAGUNAnoOne · February 2016

kylewwefan wrote: »

I've found a great use for Argonian. Rob and kill everyone at the docks. When the guards come; swim away, they can't catch you.

But they can crossbow you to death, if a vampire chains :'(

Xvorg · February 2016

PlagueMonk wrote: »

AshTal wrote: »

We all know the Argonian is underpowered. Even the changes on 2.1 still put them at the bottom of the pile.

The Argonian had crap racial abilities on the open beta and we were told they would get a bonus. We never saw this. The big issue is that even though we all know how bad Argonains racial are the 2.1 changes are right at the bottom. I think the Dev's just move too slowly we have known Argonian's are the worst racial ability and it took screaming from the forums to get more than a minor increase to the restore on potions.

However we will get a tiny improvement with 2.1 we will still be at the bottom. By the time we get raised to the level of Altmar or Imperial they will be twice as powerful as we they are now and will take years. We need decent updates and we need them now.

Well that's because, while they are micro increasing Argonian stats, they are busy doubling Bosmer stamina bonuses and increasing HE mag regen by THIRTY THREE freakin' percent! Those two things are H U G E in a game w/o soft caps, while we get a single tick better./sigh wtf?

I swear, Zenimax must be deathly afraid that if they give Argonians good racials there will be some huge flood of new lizard lovers and crash the servers or something............hummmmmmm, I just had a thought..........what if they actually ARE afraid of too many Argonians? You know we do have that extra tail and all those extra polygons because of the horns, etc. SO maybe too many lizards really WILL crash the system ><

Yeah I'm straw grasping at this point cuz I got nothin'

I have a theory... ZOs developers are members of the Mythic Dawn... they keep argonians weak because they're afraid of an argonian invasion to Mehrunes Dagon's deadlands....

Xvorg · February 2016

staracino_ESO wrote: »

They are the best at cheap manual labor. Otherwise why would the Dres like to keep so many around?

Cats are better as cheap manual labor... they can work during night

AshTal · February 2016

What I don't get is even when they know Argonian Racials just suck. its not that we are not the best magic class, or the bes Stamina class or the best tank class we suck at everything. We are not even good all rounders

Then what do they decide to do take our crapest racial and bonus it by 4% - it was completely *** at 8% its still *** at 12%. We shouldn't have to consume a potion to get a racial, and if we are forced to it should be 40% restore of all stats, 20% bonus to weapon and spell power and snare, root and stun immunity for 10 seconds. Make it better than racial that are always on not worse and we have to trigger it with a consumable.

Autolycus · February 2016

I have an Argonian that can solo heal Mantikora and takes 5 at once to kill in Cyrodiil. But Parfax is right, they are literally incapable of doing anything well. Ha, what a joke.

zerosingularity · February 2016

Lol old thread. Also Argonians are powerful when they are DK tanks or NB anything. Sure their damage is the lowest of all the races, but that potion synergy is strong. Tanks HAVE to use potions now, so more resources back, NB synergizes super well with that passive too, more stat return AND ultimate.

Lets not forget the buff to self heals, making GDB and basically the whole NB healing kit that much more powerful.

Argonians are just fine where they are, they are one of the better races right now.

Master_Kas · February 2016

Moglijuana wrote: »

I made my Argonian Magicka NB as a troll character for PvP. I mainly hang out underneath bridges in Cyrodiil and force people to fight by the water. Nothing is better than getting people to chase you across the water and when they get close to the shore, you just fear them lolololol. I already have my main (who's almost a major) so I never really worry about the Argonian's stats, I just have fun on him. His stats at v1 are pretty good though with all blue/purple gear. I wouldn't mind a slight buff though, but as of now I can't really complain.

P.S. getting alchemy to 50 on an Argonian is so worth it.

@Casts_Many_Heals this reminds me of you

acw37162 · February 2016

They are really good at swimming.

DHale · February 2016

Hello... Best swimmer if you can swim faster than an argoinian. My hats off to you.

LizardThixvim · February 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

I made my Argonian Magicka NB as a troll character for PvP. I mainly hang out underneath bridges in Cyrodiil and force people to fight by the water. Nothing is better than getting people to chase you across the water and when they get close to the shore, you just fear them lolololol. I already have my main (who's almost a major) so I never really worry about the Argonian's stats, I just have fun on him. His stats at v1 are pretty good though with all blue/purple gear. I wouldn't mind a slight buff though, but as of now I can't really complain.

P.S. getting alchemy to 50 on an Argonian is so worth it.

@Casts_Many_Heals this reminds me of you

LOLOLOLOL this is exactly me but as sorc i streak across water when they chase me frag them in the water while they swimming watch fish eat them alive, 1k ap for me

LizardThixvim · February 2016

Favourite place in all cyro is under the bridge between alessia and sej

greylox · February 2016

It's a shame people are so obsessed with maxing everything, but I suppose that's just mmo's. I've played elder scrolls since arena and have come to this installment with the same mindset and this game deserves it imo. Yeah our passives are weak but it hasn't held me back.

Wreuntzylla · February 2016

Winning is an inherent goal of humanity. Min/maxing is a means to accomplish the goal. No shame in being what you are genetically programmed to be.

Jar_Ek · February 2016

Argonian racials have been slowly improving, really all they need now is a slight potion cool down reduction and they'll be fine. No min maxer will choose them, but specialist tank builds they will excel at... pity tanks aren't needed in so much of the content.