Parfax: "Argonians Are Not Good At Anything"

Paazhahdrimaak · October 2015

Farorin wrote: »

Argonian racials are borderline useless compared to other racials.

There is nothing wrong with argonians. They pretty much have the same passives they've always had. Makes me sad people choose there character on what can be the absolute strongest. I chose my argonian because I really like that race in the ES games.

There are to many people who play this game who have never touch an other elder scrolls game. It's not about being the best.

Johngo0036 · October 2015

Being the best swimmer in the game helps you swim away from slaughter fish and you can be the only race that can swim to the imperial city...

Oh Bugger!!! i cannot out swim those pesky slaughter fish.........

being a good swimmer can now help me swim out of the pools of tears i have cried coz argonians racial passives suck......

I had an argonian NB, got him to VR2 and then things got tricky........

TheBull · October 2015

Buff their healing received to 20 or 30%

hedna123b14_ESO · October 2015

Pelemane wrote: »

Darlgon wrote: »

Who is Parfax? Not that hes wrong, but not sure I would put him in the "best theory-crafter" category.

No idea who this guy is but this looks pretty solid build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITLco_pR3Y

Best video....ever

AshTal · October 2015

I am guessing still no news on getting some decent Racials for an Argonian?

Least with new DLC its all PvE so might be harder for Argnonian players but at least I wont be constantly owned by Min/Maxers with better Racials like in imperial city.

ToRelax · October 2015

Add like 5% to all regen and change the healing received passive into healing done.

Zinaroth · October 2015

Verrask wrote: »

One of the best theory-crafter in the game

Says who?

In any case I am glad he also claims Nords are bad and not the best tanks.
Something people seem to think they are...

nimander99 · October 2015

They're good at swimming, which is a crucial mechanic of the game... duh!

DarthRupert · October 2015

Can I just say that this type of change won't happen soon...Why you may ask?
Well it's not about ZoS laziness or lack of feedback..It's because of a little thing call Murkmire.
That's right you heard me, I'll say it again Murkmire. When is the best time to buff a lizard? When they get a whole bunch more lizard pals from their homeland. So naturally lore wise that would just make the most sense?...

ToRelax · October 2015

DarthRupert wrote: »

Can I just say that this type of change won't happen soon...Why you may ask?
Well it's not about ZoS laziness or lack of feedback..It's because of a little thing call Murkmire.
That's right you heard me, I'll say it again Murkmire. When is the best time to buff a lizard? When they get a whole bunch more lizard pals from their homeland. So naturally lore wise that would just make the most sense?...

It would make most sense to rebalance their racial passives together with the rest of the races. The last racial passive "rebalance" was very underwhelming though.

F7sus4 · October 2015

Verrask wrote: »

One of the best theory-crafter in the game doesn't understand what ZoS is doing with Argonian, and rates the race the worse in the game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rrQ3Am_zmA8

Argonians make actually quite good Magicka Nightblade Sap-Tanks... and that would be it.

imapogostick · February 2016

I use mine as a healer 1st tank. Non vet tho.

GeertKarel · February 2016

*spoiler* Did you know argonians are very good swimmers, they even have more resistance against poison so yea they are quite ok lizzards.

RAGUNAnoOne · February 2016

PlagueMonk wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

If they ever addd water combat...

I have been told that underwater areas are not a realistic thing atm. The way they have water currently designed, it would be a MAJOR undertaking to convert current water to make swimming underwater even possible (although BOTH DAoC and WoW have it and they are 10 years old MMOs) so why ESO doesn't have that capability kind of bewilders me because there is so much wasted potential.

yeah just copy morrowinds swimming script and boom brand new content

LizardThixvim · February 2016

Argonian most sexy race, i have all classes all argonian, its about player skill not race, race helps a tiny bit, but if you are more skilled then other "top races players" you will kill them in pvp, out dps them in pve, out heal them, out tank them

GeertKarel · February 2016

A good thing that they are almost extinct, those argonian parties in deshaan back in the days were >.<

LizardThixvim · February 2016

i hosted and attended those parties they were sexy and will come back

Farorin · February 2016

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

Farorin wrote: »

Argonian racials are borderline useless compared to other racials.

There is nothing wrong with argonians. They pretty much have the same passives they've always had. Makes me sad people choose there character on what can be the absolute strongest. I chose my argonian because I really like that race in the ES games.

There are to many people who play this game who have never touch an other elder scrolls game. It's not about being the best.

I chose my argonian because I like argonians. That doesn't change the fact that their racials absolutely suck compared to other racials.

staracino_ESO · February 2016

They are the best at cheap manual labor. Otherwise why would the Dres like to keep so many around?

Sparky617 · February 2016

What do I do if I am the result of a Drunken Nord and a lusty Argonian?
Do I get half the bonus of both of my parents or just 4 out the 8? Can I choose? I'm so confused!!!!

cazlonb16_ESO · February 2016

So sad this is a necro and pretty much everything written on the first page is still true almost a year later.

Wreuntzylla · February 2016

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

Farorin wrote: »

Argonian racials are borderline useless compared to other racials.

There is nothing wrong with argonians. They pretty much have the same passives they've always had. Makes me sad people choose there character on what can be the absolute strongest. I chose my argonian because I really like that race in the ES games.

There are to many people who play this game who have never touch an other elder scrolls game. It's not about being the best.

Same passives as they always had? You couldn't be more wrong. Maybe you are a console player or started with 1.6?

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · February 2016

Junkogen wrote: »

Verrask wrote: »

One of the best theory-crafter in the game doesn't understand what ZoS is doing with Argonian, and rates the race the worse in the game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rrQ3Am_zmA8

It doesn't take a Parfax report to know how wrecked the Argonians are. Those of us who chose them at launch were sold a lemon and have been paying for it ever since.

Something really should be done, but we'll never see it happen. They're too lazy with passive design at this point. Plus, they're going to make a mint off a crown store race change option from all the Argonians finally being free to change race. It's all part of the plan.

hope they do it soon. race wasnt that important back in soft cap days. but as soon as they were removed they should have offered race change. DId the crown store even exist yet? lol cant remember.

Mumyo · February 2016

Verrask wrote: »

One of the best theory-crafter in the game doesn't understand what ZoS is doing with Argonian, and rates the race the worse in the game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rrQ3Am_zmA8

Keep in mind that Nord is even worse. The dmg mitigation is not additive.
Argonians got "slightly buffed, which still isn't enough but Nords are in a worse spot for real now.

Someone do something about those 2 doomed races.

Darkonflare15 · February 2016

I like my Argonian. I like my potion passive and my healing received passives they are are defensive passives. Not all races need to be offensive. The way I always built my Argonian characters is to have mostly offensive gear since I do not need to worry about regen since I can easily get my resources depending on how I built my character. I can get back more than half my magicka by using just basic vet 15 potions I find from playing the game. If I make my potions I get even more and now they increase the passive up by 4% and increase Argonian health by 3%. That gives my Argonaian in 1500 more magicka and now that I get more health now I can put more points into magicka to get back even more magicka.

Woeler · February 2016

Ugh, the Dunmer should have kept you all at bay!

Anhedonie · February 2016

+7% bonus damage with poison effect
That would solve 33% of the problem.

kylewwefan · February 2016

I've found a great use for Argonian. Rob and kill everyone at the docks. When the guards come; swim away, they can't catch you.

Autolycus · February 2016

Hey look, another troll post!

One of the "best theorycrafters" in the game? Lol. I guess even the best are capable of missing things.

Moglijuana · February 2016

I made my Argonian Magicka NB as a troll character for PvP. I mainly hang out underneath bridges in Cyrodiil and force people to fight by the water. Nothing is better than getting people to chase you across the water and when they get close to the shore, you just fear them lolololol. I already have my main (who's almost a major) so I never really worry about the Argonian's stats, I just have fun on him. His stats at v1 are pretty good though with all blue/purple gear. I wouldn't mind a slight buff though, but as of now I can't really complain.

P.S. getting alchemy to 50 on an Argonian is so worth it.