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Delay TG until it's ready - too many bugs

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From hideously low FPS issues, 64 bit client failures, to bugged abilities this version of the game is clearly not ready for live. Please do not push this update to live until all the major bugs have been fixed and the client is stable.

I know you have a date to hit which is quickly approaching, but I think the majority of the community would like these fixed PRIOR to launching it live. There is a history of too many bugs getting into the live game and that needs to end.
  • Elijah_Crow
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    ZOS will push it live, bugs and all, just like every other bugged update in the past, don't kid yourself.

    That's what I'm afraid of. I have several friends who have been waiting for the TG DLC to return to the game. If it's not stable, they will be gone forever. This DLC is a big deal to a lot of ES players and something missing since launch.

    Fix it on PTS before live, even if it's late.
  • Darlon
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    64-bit client won't be included in the initial dlc anyways so you can leave that one out of the list...

    With every dlc there's people shouting something similar... If zos would listen to those people we would never ever get new content, cause it would never be 'ready'...

    Edited by Darlon on February 23, 2016 7:23AM
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    Darlon wrote: »
    64-bit client won't be included in the initial dlc anyways so you can leave that one out of the list...

    With every dlc there's people shouting something similar... If zos would listen to those people we would never ever get new content, cause it would never be 'ready'...

    It's an MMO. It's never perfect. Im just looking for stable and unbroken.
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    Do they have a planned release date for TG? 1 march?
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    Bethesda has never released a suitable, stable game ever. It's tradition...like how you have to wait for your Christmas presents, and then when you open them on Christmas Day your idiot father forgot to buy batteries so you can look at them but not use them because all the stores are frelling closed on Christmas.

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  • Cuyler
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    olsborg wrote: »
    Do they have a planned release date for TG? 1 march?
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Do they have a planned release date for TG? 1 march?
    March 7 PC/MAC

    Haha March 7th, i thought March 18th for PC/Mac.. it's to early, 64-bit client which should be lag savior is not performing well.. I predict huge migration of pvp players to BDO, RIP ESO.
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  • tinythinker
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    ZOS will push it live, bugs and all, just like every other bugged update in the past, don't kid yourself.
    Yes, some things like the new combat animations will be removed for now, reworked, and added in a future update, but the majority of it will go live. Pre-B2P, they did just wait and wait and wait to push things, but they were still bugged and players became really irate.

    They can't wait with the current business model, though. They have to release new content on a regular basis. That's why they focus on the PTS run-up to release on things already in the update rather than responding to ideas for new changes/additions. First priority is that the new zones/quests/instances work right, second is stuff like combat changes and UI functionality, and then whatever is left over if they have the time.
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  • Lifecode666
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    I'm telling you right now.

    I demand to fire up my 64 bit client on w10 and get 20-30 more fps

    In cyrodil I want no rubberbanding, 50-60 solid fps with no drops, stabil latancy and this is with all graphics on max with shaddows..

    Everything else is fail
    Edited by Lifecode666 on February 23, 2016 1:29PM
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    I'm telling you right now.

    I demand to fire up my 64 bit client on w10 and get 20-30 more fps

    In cyrodil I want no rubberbanding, 50-60 solid fps with no drops, stabil latancy and this is with all graphics on max with shaddows..

    Everything else is fail

    Wasn't it announced a couple of weeks ago that this would not be released with the update for PC but would have to be delayed a bit?
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    I'm telling you right now.

    I demand to fire up my 64 bit client on w10 and get 20-30 more fps

    In cyrodil I want no rubberbanding, 50-60 solid fps with no drops, stabil latancy and this is with all graphics on max with shaddows..

    Everything else is fail

    Wasn't it announced a couple of weeks ago that this would not be released with the update for PC but would have to be delayed a bit?

    This is the case. I think that Mac will get 64-bit no matter what, but I would not be betting the house on 64-bit for PC before Dark Brotherhood.
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  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    Can someone tell me what TG actually has to offer? I've heard of heists and of course a story quest, and thats about it. As a pvper, is there anything I would need the dlc for?
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    Can someone tell me what TG actually has to offer? I've heard of heists and of course a story quest, and thats about it. As a pvper, is there anything I would need the dlc for?

    Not really. One of the good things they did was make the PVE and PVP sets related to their specific role. For example, the PVE sets you obtain in TG will be pretty much useless in PVP.
    I actually like that change. It means we aren't forced to PVE for good gear, like we had to with the monster sets.
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  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    Bethesda has never released a suitable, stable game ever. It's tradition...like how you have to wait for your Christmas presents, and then when you open them on Christmas Day your idiot father forgot to buy batteries so you can look at them but not use them because all the stores are frelling closed on Christmas.

    Bethesda: it's Christmas every day!

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  • Kilandros
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    They can't delay because BDO is launching around the same time. Game developers know that anytime a player downloads a new game just to try, there's a good chance that player isn't coming back.

    There's a reason why all of our major patches/DLCs have coincided along launches/Xpacs of other titles. Does the content of ESO suffer for it? Probably.
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  • Shader_Shibes
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    ZOS will push it live, bugs and all, just like every other bugged update in the past, don't kid yourself.

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    When you say buggy are we talking the disaster that imperial city was on release or the fairly ok with just a couple of issues orsinium release, or somewhere in between?
  • sadownik
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    @Steel_Brightblade from my time on PTS i would say definitely IC if not worse. I personally hold my judgement till live but... well Z. will be Z. i bet. This will be my make it or brake it dlc. If it will work so badly on my machine as on PTS then i see no use of wasting hundreds of gb's on my disk for live and PTS especially since there are other products on market that work much, much better and at least for now seem much less frustrating.
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    IF you think they are going to delay something they're putting on the cash shop, you're crazy.
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    I think you dropped this

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    Dyride wrote: »
    I nominate @HoloYoitsu as the fastest 4-star forum warrior ever (11 days). Stay frosty Spiderman.
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    I agree. Stamina morphs still do magic damage. Change them. You changed the new set quite easily
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    They can't delay because BDO is launching around the same time.

    Had no idea about BDO... just checked it out and it looks pretty sweet.
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