Oh great, another Templar nerf

Artjuh90 · February 2016

acw37162 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

LOL while I think it should be dodgeable (and so should lotus fan, concealed weapon), they should have fixed it first xD

Wroble just had to make sure to nerf Templars first. xD

He loves all these skills they are like his children.

Apparently, Templar skills misbehave and are the problem child because the seem to draw his ire more frequently then others.

maybe he want also test the role of abusive father? because the templar gets beatings every time. even when the other classes are exploiting thing

Essiaga · February 2016

templesus wrote: »

Focused Charge: The damage from this ability and the Toppling Charge morph can now be dodged.

Why? Rather then fix it, you Nerf it. This is just amazing I lol at you Zenimax.

Toppling charge can also be reflected as a projectile.

TY ZOS. And thanks for fixing that pesky Cleansing Ritual aka : the Templar last defensive skill. Templar was OP and this just gets us a little closer to not logging it.

Who am I kidding I haven't actually played my Templar(s) in 2 months cause I ran out of potions. WTF does it really matter?

Kartalin · February 2016

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

Essiaga · February 2016

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

MOBILITY!!!!

Bossdonut · February 2016

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

That'd be dope

EdmundTowers · February 2016

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

Templar misses toppling charge. Templar now on a mystical journey accross cyrodil.

Kartalin · February 2016

EdmundTowers wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

Templar misses toppling charge. Templar now on a mystical journey accross cyrodil.

(10 minutes later)
HAY GUYS SOME AD NUBS ARE SIEGING DCLAW WITH OIL CATAPULTS

Hand_Bacon · February 2016

For the first time ever, a screenie from Wrobel's computer.

The New Templar Vision (cat is in the crown store)

EDIT: I'm usually the calmer sort, the wait and see sort, but this has me scratching my head a little. Maybe from now on, if somebody totally screws you over, but tries to make you feel good about it, we can call it Wrobel'ing.

DHale · February 2016

Hey guys I can't make this work and now everyone can dodge roll from it. Go ahead and keep it... We will call it an update for "balance reason" as it does half the damage of lotus fan which can't be dodged.

Mojmir · February 2016

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

For the first time ever, a screenie from Wrobel's computer.

The New Templar Vision (cat is in the crown store)

EDIT: I'm usually the calmer sort, the wait and see sort, but this has me scratching my head a little. Maybe from now on, if somebody totally screws you over, but tries to make you feel good about it, we can call it Wrobel'ing.

They really wrobel'd us this time

david.haypreub18_ESO · February 2016

We call that a Wrobel Home.

I didn't come up with that-- someone else on the boards did lol.

AJ_1988 · February 2016

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

For the first time ever, a screenie from Wrobel's computer.

The New Templar Vision (cat is in the crown store)

EDIT: I'm usually the calmer sort, the wait and see sort, but this has me scratching my head a little. Maybe from now on, if somebody totally screws you over, but tries to make you feel good about it, we can call it Wrobel'ing.

They should put that in the Oxford dictionary. Has many real life uses too lol

Islyn · February 2016

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

So they nerfed a bugged skill nobody dares to use, and buffed healing ritual ...a healing skill that most templars never use, because by the time it's cast the team is dead O.o

ZOS logic never disappoints

ontheleftcoast wrote: »

I heard that jabs will no longer knockback the last target. WTF? That's been a fundamental part of jabs since day 0. And they're taking it away? ZOS must really want nobody to play a Templar after TG drops.

It's BETTER without Knockback, stun is better. It's much better this way.

#onlythingdoneright

Molag_Crow · February 2016

EdmundTowers wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

Templar misses toppling charge. Templar now on a mystical journey accross cyrodil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3TbN_M3t0

AJ_1988 · February 2016

Molag_Crow wrote: »

EdmundTowers wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

Templar misses toppling charge. Templar now on a mystical journey accross cyrodil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3TbN_M3t0

OMFG that's classic lol

Frenkthevile · February 2016

templesus wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

1 Streamer demands nerf. Entire community demands fix. 1 Streamer wins.

That 1 streamer wasn't alone. However, to make it consistent magicka nb skills should be dodgeable now too.

Not even that he won, its the fact they nerfed an ALREADY BROKEN ABILIY THATS BEEN BROKEN FOR 2 YEARS

harrlockk616 · February 2016

Molag_Crow wrote: »

EdmundTowers wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

In the next update they're going to fix it to where if your Toppling Charge is dodged you just keep going in that direction until you hit something.

Templar misses toppling charge. Templar now on a mystical journey accross cyrodil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3TbN_M3t0

LOL that is a CLassic

was that a SKOOMA high

SeptimusDova · February 2016

Toppling Charge can now be reflected see above^^

tinythinker · February 2016

Essiaga wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

Focused Charge: The damage from this ability and the Toppling Charge morph can now be dodged.

Why? Rather then fix it, you Nerf it. This is just amazing I lol at you Zenimax.

Toppling charge can also be reflected as a projectile.

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Toppling Charge can now be reflected see above^^

What does that mean in terms of character actions and response? Does the Templar get stunned and hit for a lot of damage upon colliding with the target? Does the Templar bounce off the target like a rubber ball? Does the Templar just get stunned and take damage in the spot from which she tried to activate the Charge?

SeptimusDova · February 2016

Does the Templar bounce off the target like a rubber ball
most likely this

with fall damage of course

david.haypreub18_ESO · February 2016

It is like the developers are just trolling us at this point.

VagabondAngel · February 2016

Ambush

Ambush
Ambush
Ambush
Ambush
Ambush

GG, ty.

Hand_Bacon · February 2016

I think the reflected charge will be much like a deer hitting windshield and then running off.

Player A "WTH was that!?!"
Player B "Another silly Templar"

The below video is about what it would be like, however in the video the deer is okay, but don't watch if you're sensitive.

https://youtu.be/hX5hyj0vRE0

Essiaga · February 2016

tinythinker wrote: »

Essiaga wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

Focused Charge: The damage from this ability and the Toppling Charge morph can now be dodged.

Why? Rather then fix it, you Nerf it. This is just amazing I lol at you Zenimax.

Toppling charge can also be reflected as a projectile.

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Toppling Charge can now be reflected see above^^

What does that mean in terms of character actions and response? Does the Templar get stunned and hit for a lot of damage upon colliding with the target? Does the Templar bounce off the target like a rubber ball? Does the Templar just get stunned and take damage in the spot from which she tried to activate the Charge?

Its exactly like if you got hit by someone else spell.

Depends on the reflect. Eclipse you start the animation and then stop abruptly and are stuned with damage.

RS and DP you hit the target and take the damage and stun.

Its been awhile. I've not used the skill or pvped with my templars since early Dec, but that's how i remember it.

Animal_Mother · February 2016

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

So they nerfed a bugged skill nobody dares to use, and buffed healing ritual ...a healing skill that most templars never use, because by the time it's cast the team is dead O.o

ZOS logic never disappoints

Except... the Healing Ritual buff was actually a nerf.

To get back the 25% less healing we would have to cast another ability to get FHs buff, which was reduced to 25% from 30%. In the end, we lost 31% of our heal for a 25% reduction in cast time.

Maths:
Live - HR heals for 100. Under FH 130. Self heals for 173-ish. Using the self heal 173/1.7s cast time = 101 hp/sec.

PTS - HR heals for 75. Under FH 90. Self heals for 121-ish. Using the self heal 121/1.5s = 80 hp/sec.

OK sow I added the cast time to hp/sec and the loss is 20%, But that is still a nerf.

failkiwib16_ESO · February 2016

@Animal_Mother lol this reminds me of a joke I read not so long ago, I can't seem to find the thread to link it ..but it went like this:
"3 templars walked into a bar ...next incremental patch walking got nerfed"

Wreuntzylla · February 2016

wayfarerx wrote: »

sAnn92 wrote: »

I can't believe the massive outcry for this insignificant 'nerf' pull your **** together templars.

Templars are not necessarily mad about the nerf itself, most of us don't slot that skill because it's so unreliable. It's just the continuous stream of nerfs while the skills themselves remain fundamentally broken. If this patch note included "removed the GCD and fixed the pathing problems" we'd be jumping up and down for joy and no one would care about this nerf.

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm mad because they billed this as the Templar and DK love patch, and instead of romantic love, we got prison love.

akredon_ESO · February 2016

Starting to think we may need to nick name Wroeble to Wobble

because a lot of these class changes are kinda shaky to stand on... like I get the changes to healing for templars because BOL was stupid strong, I hated healing with it because of how easy it was... but an ability that hasn't worked for almost 2 years is now having more changes to it... uhhh ok o.O

Nifty2g · February 2016

You cant even *** use the ability how are you going to dodge the damage
lmao

wayfarerx · February 2016

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

sAnn92 wrote: »

I can't believe the massive outcry for this insignificant 'nerf' pull your **** together templars.

Templars are not necessarily mad about the nerf itself, most of us don't slot that skill because it's so unreliable. It's just the continuous stream of nerfs while the skills themselves remain fundamentally broken. If this patch note included "removed the GCD and fixed the pathing problems" we'd be jumping up and down for joy and no one would care about this nerf.

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm mad because they billed this as the Templar and DK love patch, and instead of romantic love, we got prison love.

Honestly I kinda expected the nerfs, I've mained as a Templar since launch so this is nothing new to me.

But for some dumb reason I also expected that they would actually fix the bugs. I'm mad because they actually spent developer time (and, as such, the money I pay for my sub) nerfing healing ritual of all things, and our gap closer is still ******* broken.