rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
No. If you rely on cloak on a stam nightblade you're doing it wrong. You more than likely sit behind a tree using snipe and running away in cloak when you don't burst someone. A good stamina nightblade doesn't need cloak to survive because they have the most ridiculous amount of damage in the game which means they don't cloak because their target is dead. The only time they cloak is to pop a rally + vigor and get right back in the action. Sounds like a l2p issue. If you aren't smart enough to leave the guy using magelight alone then that's your problem for not recognizing the situation and you deserve to die.
pecheckler wrote: »Is the nerf that one of the cloak morphs used to remove applied DoTs and not it only prevents ticks during the cloak duration? If so, then what is the point of cloaking now? This seems to be a change that essentially removes the core ability of the class and stops players from playing as they always have expected a stealth class to work.
So if I'm understanding this upcoming patch correctly the developers are trying to let all 4 classes be viable stealth classes and all 4 classes be viable healers through by making huge nerfs to nightblade cloak and templar healing/mobility.
Where are the fundamental class skill nerfs to sorcerers and dragon knights?
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. If you rely on cloak on a stam nightblade you're doing it wrong. You more than likely sit behind a tree using snipe and running away in cloak when you don't burst someone. A good stamina nightblade doesn't need cloak to survive because they have the most ridiculous amount of damage in the game which means they don't cloak because their target is dead. The only time they cloak is to pop a rally + vigor and get right back in the action. Sounds like a l2p issue. If you aren't smart enough to leave the guy using magelight alone then that's your problem for not recognizing the situation and you deserve to die.
No I'm the Nightblade who is in your face and who uses it to heal now that they are completely ducking that over it's no point to use it anymore now that hint of the title of the thread this going hurt stam Nightblade builds magblades going spam dark cloak and use healing ward etc stamblade hasn't have that option
And l2p is what I say to you scrub who cry about Nightblades and the past and only ones happy about this Nerf check mate ***
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Also, the line, "If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad." really shows your age and grasp of the English language. I didn't realize Donald Trump played ESO.
You are a ducking idiot if think most Nightblade builds copy sypher it's obvious you don't know WTF you're talking about please stay off my thread thank you
Just remember, at the end of the day you're crying and asking for a buff to stamina nightblades. What's wrong? Can't run away anymore after your snipe doesn't kill someone?
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Also, the line, "If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad." really shows your age and grasp of the English language. I didn't realize Donald Trump played ESO.
You are a ducking idiot if think most Nightblade builds copy sypher it's obvious you don't know WTF you're talking about please stay off my thread thank you
Just remember, at the end of the day you're crying and asking for a buff to stamina nightblades. What's wrong? Can't run away anymore after your snipe doesn't kill someone?
I never ask for buff for stamblades I said this Nerf is going to hurt stamblades
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
wot
Cloak isn't the be-all of NBs. Your damage comes from Mark Target and Surprise Attack, among others. You don't need Cloak. I play a DW/Bow stamblade and have no need of Cloak in PvE or PvP. I have excellent burst damage without it.
The main point of NBs is to burst your opponents down quickly by attacking first. That can be done without Cloak.
wot
Cloak isn't the be-all of NBs. Your damage comes from Mark Target and Surprise Attack, among others. You don't need Cloak. I play a DW/Bow stamblade and have no need of Cloak in PvE or PvP. I have excellent burst damage without it.
The main point of NBs is to burst your opponents down quickly by attacking first. That can be done without Cloak.rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
No, I get that, and that's what sucks (not the cloaking but that other skills that directly contest Cloak are getting buffs while Cloak is being nerfed to oblivion). It's unfairly balanced mostly because I feel Wrobel hasn't a clue what he's doing, but you don't need Cloak to live. I've been getting on fine without it.
CrowsDescend wrote: »I'm quite happy they're nerfing cloak. It's about time Nightblades got a taste of the nerf juice because there's just too many players in PvP who seem to play a Nightblade specifically just to cloak away whenever they're being overwhelmed or in danger, and running with detection pots to combat them isn't always the best option when the Nightblade can simply turn around, fear you and then rip into you with a couple of Ambushes & Surprise Attacks (Depending on their stats, battle level, etc.)
rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
VincentBlanquin wrote: »thanks all crybabies for nerfing cloak and major expedition. destroying only build enjoyable for me in this game - archer. So now is every stam nightblade forced to play 2hander wrecking blow monster, just like dragonknights now. I though Wrobel said something about they want variety, tactics and strategy but they are doing exactly the opposite
VincentBlanquin wrote: »thanks all crybabies for nerfing cloak and major expedition. destroying only build enjoyable for me in this game - archer. So now is every stam nightblade forced to play 2hander wrecking blow monster, just like dragonknights now. I though Wrobel said something about they want variety, tactics and strategy but they are doing exactly the opposite
mdylan2013 wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »thanks all crybabies for nerfing cloak and major expedition. destroying only build enjoyable for me in this game - archer. So now is every stam nightblade forced to play 2hander wrecking blow monster, just like dragonknights now. I though Wrobel said something about they want variety, tactics and strategy but they are doing exactly the opposite
Surely an archer type build will be much more viable for nightblades now? Won't attacking from afar avoid the issues with Mage light? The new archer set looks pretty cool as well.
I'm planning on rolling an archer nightblade for the new dlc. Less reliant on cloak but more hiding up high and making a quick escape when things get a bit too hot.
CrowsDescend wrote: »I'm quite happy they're nerfing cloak. It's about time Nightblades got a taste of the nerf juice because there's just too many players in PvP who seem to play a Nightblade specifically just to cloak away whenever they're being overwhelmed or in danger, and running with detection pots to combat them isn't always the best option when the Nightblade can simply turn around, fear you and then rip into you with a couple of Ambushes & Surprise Attacks (Depending on their stats, battle level, etc.)
ZOS Nerfed Mist Form and caused it to bug out (Elusive Mist speed bonus isn't working properly, the 75% reduced damage taken is more like 30% and Gap-Closers can be spammed against it) because players were complaining about not being able to target/see/kill players spamming it, even though magicka regeneration & healing received, stopped while mist form was active - and that was a pretty hard blow to Vampirism, resulting in many of us curing among others reasons like Camo Hunter & Dawnbreaker.
I'll be honest with you though, I do dislike nerfs - but Cloak definitely had it coming due to the nature of play-styles that it had pretty much spawned, like using cloak to fully heal with Vigor and/or Rally and to avoid ultimates like an Ice Comet, etc.
So what your saying is because ZOS Nerf other classes they should Nerf Nightblades ?
Honestly if they just buff magicka dks and fix Templars they would had achieve class balance but with Zos they can't have that let's Nerf this Nerf that buff sorcs but Nerf that lol