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the cloak nerf going hurt stam nb
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Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its going suck like escort in Bangkok at happy hour if this patch goes live hell today I seen a group of AD all 20 of them had magelight on now you guys are making super OP GG ZoS
The only problem is the mark target ability - .it does not allow you to cast cloak for a very long time.
Now if that is going to be fixed then the cloak will be as effective as before in the hands of good NBs.
As an example: you can call your shadow image up and go mess with enemies...and when you need to retreat then you activate the shadow image again and then cloak ...you will be out of any mage light range.
Or you can fight next to some obstacles so you could get out of line of sight when you are suppressed...
A skilled NB will be as effective as before the cloak nerf.3 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭Its going suck like escort in Bangkok at happy hour if this patch goes live hell today I seen a group of AD all 20 of them had magelight on now you guys are making super OP GG ZoS
The only problem is the mark target ability - .it does not allow you to cast cloak for a very long time.
Now if that is going to be fixed then the cloak will be as effective as before in the hands of good NBs.
As an example: you can call your shadow image up and go mess with enemies...and when you need to retreat then you activate the shadow image again and then cloak ...you will be out of any mage light range.
Or you can fight next to some obstacles so you could get out of line of sight when you are suppressed...
A skilled NB will be as effective as before the cloak nerf.
I just can't wait for this patch to go live I said my peace on the matterGold Company Commander0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Make that how YOU life as a NB,cos I sure as heck dont.
I live by my other skills quite nicely,thank you.I have no need to sneak up on anyone.I fight straight up.Sure sometimes I might die,but not very often.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
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No. If you rely on cloak on a stam nightblade you're doing it wrong. You more than likely sit behind a tree using snipe and running away in cloak when you don't burst someone. A good stamina nightblade doesn't need cloak to survive because they have the most ridiculous amount of damage in the game which means they don't cloak because their target is dead. The only time they cloak is to pop a rally + vigor and get right back in the action. Sounds like a l2p issue. If you aren't smart enough to leave the guy using magelight alone then that's your problem for not recognizing the situation and you deserve to die.
No I'm the Nightblade who is in your face and who uses it to heal now that they are completely ducking that over it's no point to use it anymore now that hint of the title of the thread this going hurt stam Nightblade builds magblades going spam dark cloak and use healing ward etc stamblade hasn't have that option
And l2p is what I say to you scrub who cry about Nightblades and the past and only ones happy about this Nerf check mate ***
Yeah, I have a stamina nightblade. I quit playing it because I don't like exploiting. The entire class is an exploit. I'm glad they're finally doing something about it even though it's not much of a nerf.
Awe,c'mon.This is a freakin' game,for Christ's sake.Exploits I have no problem with.I dont use them,but others do.If you're cryin' because someone has learned to make the utmost of the abilities given them for their class,then you need to learn how to counter said skills.Not whine because the other player is better at useing his/her skills than you are.
LOL!3 -
khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you need cloak to kill someone you suck and don't understand all the nightblade abilites
If you need *insert skill defining YOUR playstyle* to kill someone you suck and dont understand all the nightblade abilities.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
You've been here for 3 years?
Cos the game only came out on April 4, 2014.Edited by Volkodav on February 14, 2016 10:12AM0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
As I said in an earlier post,NO THEY DONT need cloak to survive.People who play NBs just need to develop their other skills rather than depend on one single skill and it's morphs.1 -
khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
As I said in an earlier post,NO THEY DONT need cloak to survive.People who play NBs just need to develop their other skills rather than depend on one single skill and it's morphs.
Is that a reason cloak should be made useless for melee NBs?
You must realize there is a huge group of people who love the fantasy archetype which is represented by the Cloak: an elusive assassin who uses shadows to move from target to target, strike and vanish without a trace. They dont use the Cloak because its OP but because its a defining element of a theme theyre into. They dont want to play a life-leeching warlock they want to play a rogue/assassin/shadow walker/ninja/darkblade.Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on February 14, 2016 10:45AMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.6 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
As I said in an earlier post,NO THEY DONT need cloak to survive.People who play NBs just need to develop their other skills rather than depend on one single skill and it's morphs.
Is that a reason cloak should be made useless for melee NBs?
You must realize there is a huge group of people who love the fantasy archetype which is represented by the Cloak: an elusive assassin who uses shadows to move from target to target, strike and vanish without a trace. They dont use the Cloak because its OP but because its a defining element of a theme theyre into. They dont want to play a life-leeching warlock they want to play a rogue/assassin/shadow walker/ninja/darkblade.
Where did I say cloak should be made useless? Where did I even say it should be nerfed? I didnt.I said I dont use it,so it's no bother to me what they do with it.I can say that if I choose to.
As to realizing anything,I've been at this game since the first.I am nowhere near a noobie.I know how others play,and good on them.To each their own.So no need to tell me what I already know.Edited by Volkodav on February 14, 2016 10:52AM0 -
murtugo✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
As I said in an earlier post,NO THEY DONT need cloak to survive.People who play NBs just need to develop their other skills rather than depend on one single skill and it's morphs.
Cloak is NB's defense... The only other way for NBs to survive without cloak is to play bow then run and dodge roll if you are revealed. Seriously, NBs cant play like DKs and temps. There is a reason why NBs belong to a different class.
Edited by murtugo on February 14, 2016 10:55AM3 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
As I said in an earlier post,NO THEY DONT need cloak to survive.People who play NBs just need to develop their other skills rather than depend on one single skill and it's morphs.
Cloak is NB's defense... The only other way for NBs to survive without cloak is to play bow then run and dodge roll if you are revealed. Seriously, NBs cant play like DKs and temps. There is a reason why NBs belong to a different class.
And there you have it.My tactics exactly.
I use a bow just fine,and have no problems getting through mobs or bosses..There is a reason NBs are a different class,but if I dont want to play the sneaky stabby thing,there is no reason I have to.I use other skills that NBs have.And there are quite a few of them besides the cloak skills.Especially the Siphon skills. C'mon.You cant seriously think there is only one way to play an NB.That would just show a lack of intelligence in the usages of the NBs skills.0 -
khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »Op just ignore the sorcs in here. Truth is, NB depends on cloak to live. They don't have uber shields, or amazing self heals like some other classes. So a nerf to Cloak, and buffing mage light just hurts them. They won't accept this because like I said. Most of them are new players or FOTM sorcs.
As I said in an earlier post,NO THEY DONT need cloak to survive.People who play NBs just need to develop their other skills rather than depend on one single skill and it's morphs.
Is that a reason cloak should be made useless for melee NBs?
You must realize there is a huge group of people who love the fantasy archetype which is represented by the Cloak: an elusive assassin who uses shadows to move from target to target, strike and vanish without a trace. They dont use the Cloak because its OP but because its a defining element of a theme theyre into. They dont want to play a life-leeching warlock they want to play a rogue/assassin/shadow walker/ninja/darkblade.
Where did I say cloak should be made useless? Where did I even say it should be nerfed? I didnt.I said I dont use it,so it's no bother to me what they do with it.I can say that if I choose to.
Sure you can. And I have the right to reply saying it does bother me (and others who are into the assassin archetype) when ZOS make the skill useless for melee NBs.
Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on February 14, 2016 11:29AMP2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.2 -
SeptimusDova✭✭✭✭✭
✭Looks Like the OP won the golden shovel reward for that Necro Gem. You know the Nirnhoned Shovel!!
It was bound to be nerfed. Not that I agree with nerfs. As a Templar I can empathize with you on any Nerf .
But herein this thread lies the very crux of the matter. All players who play this game should be supportive of each others class. I see many a fine thread derailed by ad hominem attacks.
hang together or hang separately.
Has any nerf ever been un-nerfed in ESO?2 -
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✭That feeling you get when even NB's are no longer safe from nerfs.Edited by Justice31st on February 14, 2016 11:36AM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
Tankqull✭✭✭✭✭
✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
can you time travel? 3 years good joke xD
well you know... beta...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"1 -
dlepi24✭✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
You've been here for 3 years?
Cos the game only came out on April 4, 2014.
I know it sounds crazy, but there were CBT's before the game officially launched.1 -
mtwiggz✭✭✭✭✭Cloak already had several hard counters.
A.) Detection Potions. (Available to all)
B.) AoE Abilities. (Available to all)
C.) Revealing Flare. (Available to all)
D.) Mage Light. (Available to all)
E.) Mark Target. (NB specific)
Out of the five options listed only one of said options isn't available for everyone. The sad truth here is that people were incapable of adapting to cloak. Thus causing a nerf.
Now you may say "Why should I have to slot a skill to specifically kill only one class?"
You could say this about every class:
In order to kill a BoL spamming Magicka Templar you need some kind of hard CC. Otherwise any good Magicka Templar can just continuously out heal your damage.
In order to kill a Wing spamming Magicka DK you need some kind of non-reflective ability. Otherwise any good Magicka DK will continuously reflect your skills back while still dealing damage to you.
In order to kill a Shield spamming Sorc you need a good mix of both CC and burst. Otherwise any good Magicka Sorc will continuously shield while still damaging you.
Each class has a few class defining skills. These skills are what separates how each encounter takes place. There is no skill to keep a Templar from spamming BoL, there is no skill to keep a DK from using Wings, there is no skill to keep a Sorc from spamming Hardened Ward. So why will we have a skill that completely negates the use of Cloak? If anything Cloak needed some kind of rework, not a skill that completely negates the actual use of it.
The end all be all is that once cloak is nerfed our community will come up with another thing to complain about. Instead of adapting to certain skills and play styles users come to these forums and complain. Unfortunately for the sake of the game, granted not in all cases, ZoS listens to the complainers. It seems as though a decent amount of the community here doesn't want competitive PvP. What they want is a vanilla PvP atmosphere where all classes have similar abilities with no actual definition between them, other than perhaps how the abilities look when they are casted.9 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
You've been here for 3 years?
Cos the game only came out on April 4, 2014.
I know it sounds crazy, but there were CBT's before the game officially launched.
I was in on the early betas,but there were none three years ago.Odd thing there.0 -
dlepi24✭✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
You've been here for 3 years?
Cos the game only came out on April 4, 2014.
I know it sounds crazy, but there were CBT's before the game officially launched.
I was in on the early betas,but there were none three years ago.Odd thing there.
Sounds like you only played in the beta for pre-ordering the game...not the ones before that. Odd thing there. You realize the game was in development 9 years ago, right? You actually think the first beta they did was for everyone who pre-ordered the game?Edited by dlepi24 on February 14, 2016 1:14PM1 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
You've been here for 3 years?
Cos the game only came out on April 4, 2014.
I know it sounds crazy, but there were CBT's before the game officially launched.
I was in on the early betas,but there were none three years ago.Odd thing there.
Sounds like you only played in the beta for pre-ordering the game...not the ones before that. Odd thing there. You realize the game was in development 9 years ago, right? You actually think the first beta they did was for everyone who pre-ordered the game?
Never heard of betas 9 years ago.Never heard of ESO until they began to advertise it.
Ok,..fine.You were on the inside and played in betas I hadnt heard of.Still,I wonder why I didnt hear anything on the net about earlier ones.Not being snarky,just interested when they were. Any time there is anything about TES games and Bethesda,my ears prick up.0 -
dlepi24✭✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.
Are you dumb? I want buffs to skills that are bad. (leeching blades.) and self heals.
Also to the guy who says pick your target better. Have you seen the PVP? 8 out of 10 targets are magic FOTM Sorcs. With mage light changes that is going to be fun.
Truth is IF NB will have trouble getting away from targets. They need to have skills that make them less squishy. If you don't agree with me. You are wrong and should feel bad.
No. This is how I know you're new to PvP and have no reason to speak about it. 8 out of 10 players are running FOTM stamina nightblade builds like yourself because they saw Sypher do it. If you weren't, then you wouldn't be crying because you got slightly nerfed. It's not even a nerf. Just a change. Clearly a L2P issue. The fact that your class can now throw on shades, cloak for the damage mitigation and impen and not take any damage is insane. But you wouldn't know about that because Sypher hasn't come out with a video about it, yet. You clearly don't know how to build a decent stamina nightblade if you're feeling squishy. Here's a tip - stop trying to get your damage as high as possible and realize that there are other areas in your build that need work if you're feeling squishy. Get bloodspawn, use shades, use impen, use s/b, etc. Do you need me to make a build for you? Stop asking for buffs as a stamina nightblade you make our class look dumb.
Lmao You are new to the game. I will forgive you. Shield stacking FOTM sorc I bet. I don't need to read your comments anymore. I am right, you are wrong. Lets move on.
Been here for 3 years, now. Let me guess...you play on console? Lmao, saying nightblades need a buff. You're clearly new to this game. They already have everything they need and then more. Get out of the bush and take snipe off your bar.
You've been here for 3 years?
Cos the game only came out on April 4, 2014.
I know it sounds crazy, but there were CBT's before the game officially launched.
I was in on the early betas,but there were none three years ago.Odd thing there.
Sounds like you only played in the beta for pre-ordering the game...not the ones before that. Odd thing there. You realize the game was in development 9 years ago, right? You actually think the first beta they did was for everyone who pre-ordered the game?
Never heard of betas 9 years ago.Never heard of ESO until they began to advertise it.
Ok,..fine.You were on the inside and played in betas I hadnt heard of.Still,I wonder why I didnt hear anything on the net about earlier ones.Not being snarky,just interested when they were. Any time there is anything about TES games and Bethesda,my ears prick up.
Can you point to where I said there were betas 9 years ago? I said the game was in development 9 years ago. You really think the first time they introduced the game to more than their QA team and Dev's was when they let hundreds of thousands of people play for the first time? No. There were plenty of smaller beta tests you could've gotten in.Edited by dlepi24 on February 14, 2016 1:27PM0 -
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✭✭✭I didn't read all natch potes, but (corrent me if i am wrong)
- they removed "remove all dots" from dark cloak
- magelight got a buff
Already people could counter cloak with some skills but "they did not want to give up one skill by slotting magelight".
So people who did not want to use one of the many counters to cloak will probably still not use it.
I do rely on cloak as a magicka NB. I am far to squishy (also a vamp) and even if i spam healing ward. And yes, i do wear impenetrable, don't have 4k damage but have a good regeneration and decent damage (2.5k damage 2.1k regen).
So far testing on the PTS... i didn't see much difference. Instead of Dark cloak i use the other morph for 100% cric chance. I already had the cheap purge slotted. I didn't encounter much people using anti-cloak measures tbh.
I think both classes will survive. Mage light is least of your problems when there are proxybomb-stealtornado-batswarms zergs in a laggy campaign running around.
But what is your take on magblades? Anyone else had positive feeling about it or negative?٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭Wow so I didn't know they change mark target also lol had to go read the patch notesGold Company Commander0
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✭✭I honestly don't get what all the fuss is about. I understand that people can now counter NB cloak with magelight but correct me if im wrong about NB getting no real heavy nerfs like other classes in the past. Its not really even a nerf to cloak just a buff to mage light. What makes NB so special that they can never have a "nerf" while other classes such as DK and Templar have been nerfed a ton.1
