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the cloak nerf going hurt stam nb
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Its going suck like escort in Bangkok at happy hour if this patch goes live hell today I seen a group of AD all 20 of them had magelight on now you guys are making super OP GG ZoS
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mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭As a stam build I get 3 cloaks in before I'm out of magickaEdited by mr1sho on February 13, 2016 5:58AMGold Company Commander8
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TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭and as a magicka NB I can run around an enemies keep in cloak for over 5 minutes without using any stamina, why I don't even need to sneak.Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on February 13, 2016 6:16AM2 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have an NB Stam char who has no problems not using any of the cloak abilities. I dont miss it.5 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
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YOU go play a Templar or DK. I can play any way I choose.Just because you seem locked into one build type doesnt mean I'm not supposed to use a different one.I dont want another DK,and I dumped the Templar I started at level 6.
I prefer Nightblades and will play it as I choose,thank you.Edited by Volkodav on February 13, 2016 6:32AM19 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭
I do play a dk and Templar and a sorc lol and have 3 Nightblades two stams and one magicka so calm down friend here have some skooma
YOU go play a Templar or DK. I can play any way I choose.Just because you seem locked into one build type doesnt mean I am unable to use a different one.I dont want another DK,and I dumped the Templar I started at level 6.
I prefer Nightblades and will play it as I choose,thank you.
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Oliumzen✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »and as a magicka NB I can run around an enemies keep in cloak for over 5 minutes without using any stamina, why I don't even need to sneak.
thats it? i can stay cloaked infinitely1 -
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✭✭I'm quite happy they're nerfing cloak. It's about time Nightblades got a taste of the nerf juice because there's just too many players in PvP who seem to play a Nightblade specifically just to cloak away whenever they're being overwhelmed or in danger, and running with detection pots to combat them isn't always the best option when the Nightblade can simply turn around, fear you and then rip into you with a couple of Ambushes & Surprise Attacks (Depending on their stats, battle level, etc.)
ZOS Nerfed Mist Form and caused it to bug out (Elusive Mist speed bonus isn't working properly, the 75% reduced damage taken is more like 30% and Gap-Closers can be spammed against it) because players were complaining about not being able to target/see/kill players spamming it, even though magicka regeneration & healing received, stopped while mist form was active - and that was a pretty hard blow to Vampirism, resulting in many of us curing among others reasons like Camo Hunter & Dawnbreaker.
I'll be honest with you though, I do dislike nerfs - but Cloak definitely had it coming due to the nature of play-styles that it had pretty much spawned, like using cloak to fully heal with Vigor and/or Rally and to avoid ultimates like an Ice Comet, etc.Edited by Molag_Crow on February 13, 2016 9:29AM--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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I do play a dk and Templar and a sorc lol and have 3 Nightblades two stams and one magicka so calm down friend here have some skooma
YOU go play a Templar or DK. I can play any way I choose.Just because you seem locked into one build type doesnt mean I am unable to use a different one.I dont want another DK,and I dumped the Templar I started at level 6.
I prefer Nightblades and will play it as I choose,thank you.
I'm fine.It's just that you tried to tell me that if I didnt play my NB as you said,I should go play another class.That you play all those classes(mind you,I have as well) doesnt matter.It was your comment. It didnt make me smile.
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khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have an NB Stam char who has no problems not using any of the cloak abilities. I dont miss it.
And this is why we cant have nice things. When theyre nerfing a skill YOU actually use most of the cloak NBs will be like 'yeah, nerf it, I dont give a f...k. I wont miss it'.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.2 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
You have a problem with someone else's opinion? I DONT use the skills,but I dont say nerf anything.Show me where I said this,if you can.
And,no,I dont miss using something I personally never use.DUH.2 -
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✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
You have a problem with someone else's opinion? I DONT use the skills,but I dont say nerf anything.Show me where I said this,if you can.
And,no,I dont miss using something I personally never use.DUH.
I have a problem with many peoples' opinions. Whats so unusual about that? And your answer implied you're condoning the nerf because it affects something you dont use.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.2 -
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✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
You have a problem with someone else's opinion? I DONT use the skills,but I dont say nerf anything.Show me where I said this,if you can.
And,no,I dont miss using something I personally never use.DUH.
I have a problem with many peoples' opinions. Whats so unusual about that? And your answer implied you're condoning the nerf because it affects something you dont use.
You assume.And your assumptions are wrong. Just because I have no problem with not using any cloaking abilities doesnt mean I condone/approve of nerfing. I never have and never will.1 -
OGLezard✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thread created by a guy who doesn't know craglorn is already out lololololololol then says not using cloak means your playing NB wrong lololol love this community ^_^
Stay strong eso, stay strong!Edited by OGLezard on February 13, 2016 7:52AM3 -
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✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
You have a problem with someone else's opinion? I DONT use the skills,but I dont say nerf anything.Show me where I said this,if you can.
And,no,I dont miss using something I personally never use.DUH.
I have a problem with many peoples' opinions. Whats so unusual about that? And your answer implied you're condoning the nerf because it affects something you dont use.
You assume.And your assumptions are wrong. Just because I have no problem with not using any cloaking abilities doesnt mean I condone/approve of nerfing. I never have and never will.
Good. Now everyone knows what your actual opinion on the matter is.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.0 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭CrowsDescend wrote: »I'm quite happy they're nerfing cloak. It's about time Nightblades got a taste of the nerf juice because there's just too many players in PvP who seem to play a Nightblade specifically just to cloak away whenever they're being overwhelmed or in danger, and running with detection pots to combat them isn't always the best option when the Nightblade can simply turn around, fear you and then rip into you with a couple of Ambushes & Surprise Attacks (Depending on their stats, battle level, etc.)
ZOS Nerfed Mist Form and caused it to bug out (Elusive Mist speed bonus isn't working properly, the 75% reduced damage taken is more like 30% and Gap-Closers can be spammed against it) because players were complaining about not being able to target/see/kill players spamming it, even though magicka regeneration & healing received, stopped while mist form was active - and that was a pretty hard blow to Vampirism, resulting in many of us curing among others reasons like Camo Hunter & Dawnbreaker.
I'll be honest with you though, I do dislike nerfs - but Cloak definitely had it coming due to the nature of play-styles that it had pretty much spawned, like using cloak to fully heal with Vigor and/or Rally and to avoid ultimates like an Ice Comet, etc.
So what your saying is because ZOS Nerf other classes they should Nerf Nightblades ?
Honestly if they just buff magicka dks and fix Templars they would had achieve class balance but with Zos they can't have that let's Nerf this Nerf that buff sorcs but Nerf that lolGold Company Commander2 -
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✭✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »
You have a problem with someone else's opinion? I DONT use the skills,but I dont say nerf anything.Show me where I said this,if you can.
And,no,I dont miss using something I personally never use.DUH.
I have a problem with many peoples' opinions. Whats so unusual about that? And your answer implied you're condoning the nerf because it affects something you dont use.
You assume.And your assumptions are wrong. Just because I have no problem with not using any cloaking abilities doesnt mean I condone/approve of nerfing. I never have and never will.
Good. Now everyone knows what your actual opinion on the matter is.
Your point being?1 -
sekhem✭✭✭Thread created by a guy who doesn't know craglorn is already out lololololololol then says not using cloak means your playing NB wrong lololol love this community ^_^
Stay strong eso, stay strong!
Please go back and read the OP for the craglorn thread. Please please please. lol
Hint hint the date. Then take a pic of your reaction and post it for us. Thanks
Edited by sekhem on February 13, 2016 3:44PMThe Dr found that his stars had decayed. Why didn't he keep them in the fridge? lol
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No. If you rely on cloak on a stam nightblade you're doing it wrong. You more than likely sit behind a tree using snipe and running away in cloak when you don't burst someone. A good stamina nightblade doesn't need cloak to survive because they have the most ridiculous amount of damage in the game which means they don't cloak because their target is dead. The only time they cloak is to pop a rally + vigor and get right back in the action. Sounds like a l2p issue. If you aren't smart enough to leave the guy using magelight alone then that's your problem for not recognizing the situation and you deserve to die.4 -
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✭✭I have an NB Stam char who has no problems not using any of the cloak abilities. I dont miss it.
This guy knows it. Stamina master race. Sneak, zap zap zap kill in 3 hits tops rob them stones and dart back into sneak. Cloak is for amateurs anyway. I'd happily give it upPC Master Race
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agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.0 -
DDemon✭✭✭✭I play a stamina NB (I have a character in all 4 classes), the only reason I use cloak is to remove DOTs during fights. Looks like I will just have to level purge instead.0 -
mdylan2013✭✭✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
You could always pick your fights more carefully. Avoid those that have Mage light active, use longer range abilities, use the environment to your advantage, use movement speed buffs and skills...
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dlepi24✭✭✭✭rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
Lmao. This dude just asked for stam NB's to get a buff.2 -
pecheckler✭✭✭✭✭Is the nerf that one of the cloak morphs used to remove applied DoTs and not it only prevents ticks during the cloak duration? If so, then what is the point of cloaking now? This seems to be a change that essentially removes the core ability of the class and stops players from playing as they always have expected a stealth class to work.
So if I'm understanding this upcoming patch correctly the developers are trying to let all 4 classes be viable stealth classes and all 4 classes be viable healers through by making huge nerfs to nightblade cloak and templar healing/mobility.
Where are the fundamental class skill nerfs to sorcerers and dragon knights?Edited by pecheckler on February 13, 2016 6:02PMEnd the tedious inventory management game.2 -
Ilterendi✭✭✭mdylan2013 wrote: »rager82b14_ESO wrote: »
agree.
Cloak is how you live as a NB Stam. We better get some key buffs if we can't get away from targets.
You could always pick your fights more carefully. Avoid those that have Mage light active, use longer range abilities, use the environment to your advantage, use movement speed buffs and skills...
I totally agree when it comes to Magelight, however Piercing Mark is still a thing.
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