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  • Soris
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    if i can get an Afro i would be so happy!

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  • TheShadowScout
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    Kalebron wrote: »
    Personally I think barber shop should be free unless changing your sex, race, or alliance. They could make it a expensive cost like 2000 or 3000 crown and limit how many times you can do it.
    Making the barbershop requires extra programmer time.
    Programmers like geting paid to make their rent, buy groceries and lots of coffe. In face, most of them kinda refuse to work -unless- they get paid.
    ESO isn't a charity, its a business, which means not only need they make enough profit to pay their programmers, they also need to make enough so the suits keep considering the game "profitable" and don't pull the plugs on the servers.

    What in the reality of the situation suggests they will be in a position to add stuff to the game "for free"?

    Best we can hope for is that maaaaybe they could offer -some- minor changes for a mere gold cost. But everything else WILL cost crowns. Hopefully it will be a small fee per small change (like body shape slider altered, or skin color redone) and a big fee for big changes (like race and gender), and not a big gate fee to use the editor, but we'll see.
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    I think one issue will be pricing. Maybe access to the barbershop is a one-time crown purchase, with gold being used for the actual changes. If an individual style change is say, 50 crowns, the users will end up with funky, unusable balances (yes this isn't a huge problem), but say you go to 100 crowns per change, then I think things start getting expensive quickly. Imagine a full respec? So yeah, I'm sure it's difficult to predict how people will react to the payment scheme ZOS picks.

    Edit: this is my first MMO so I'm not sure what precedents exist from other games.
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  • MornaBaine
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    Kalebron wrote: »
    Personally I think barber shop should be free unless changing your sex, race, or alliance. They could make it a expensive cost like 2000 or 3000 crown and limit how many times you can do it.
    Making the barbershop requires extra programmer time.
    Programmers like geting paid to make their rent, buy groceries and lots of coffe. In face, most of them kinda refuse to work -unless- they get paid.
    ESO isn't a charity, its a business, which means not only need they make enough profit to pay their programmers, they also need to make enough so the suits keep considering the game "profitable" and don't pull the plugs on the servers.

    What in the reality of the situation suggests they will be in a position to add stuff to the game "for free"?

    Best we can hope for is that maaaaybe they could offer -some- minor changes for a mere gold cost. But everything else WILL cost crowns. Hopefully it will be a small fee per small change (like body shape slider altered, or skin color redone) and a big fee for big changes (like race and gender), and not a big gate fee to use the editor, but we'll see.

    I fully expect to see it all married to the Crown Store. My own hope is that they'll give you an unlock that will let you return any character to the char gen screen at any time and make ANY changes with the exception of race and class (as these effect stats and should be handled separately). And yes, I'll be willing to pay a fairly hefty fee ONCE for the privilege. If they add things like new hairstyles to the store and charge per item that is something I expect to see as an account wide unlock as well with no further associated cost once I've purchased the style. I don't pay every time I wear my hair up rather than down, and I want to be able to change hairstyle and makeup with ease on any character without an associated cost every time I want to do it.
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  • Levi
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    I don't care so much about how they do the "barber shop" aspect of it, but they need to put a race change in somehow. For me, it does not make sense to sit in a chair and come out another race, so I hope they have a way of doing this... magic comes to mind... face sculpter, something like that.

    Why does every zone need one? That's like saying every zone needs the shrines to change your stats. There is no reason for that. One per alliance in maybe the first major city (Daggerfall, Vulkhel Guard, Davon's Watch). Use the wayshrines.

    I actually think they can be much more creative than a barber chair. Magic abounds in Tamriel! Maybe the face sculpter looks into a pool of water with your character to see what they will look like (brings your character to the editing screen). They then make changes to looks, race, etc. Then, when it is decided on, a cool ripple of magic passes over your character, changing them into the new character. Sounds better than a chair to me.
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  • Gidorick
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    Levi wrote: »
    I don't care so much about how they do the "barber shop" aspect of it, but they need to put a race change in somehow. For me, it does not make sense to sit in a chair and come out another race, so I hope they have a way of doing this... magic comes to mind... face sculpter, something like that.

    Why does every zone need one? That's like saying every zone needs the shrines to change your stats. There is no reason for that. One per alliance in maybe the first major city (Daggerfall, Vulkhel Guard, Davon's Watch). Use the wayshrines.

    I actually think they can be much more creative than a barber chair. Magic abounds in Tamriel! Maybe the face sculpter looks into a pool of water with your character to see what they will look like (brings your character to the editing screen). They then make changes to looks, race, etc. Then, when it is decided on, a cool ripple of magic passes over your character, changing them into the new character. Sounds better than a chair to me.

    I disagree... Magic in Tamriel isn't an all encompassing thing. Before ESO the Fighter's Guild weren't Magicians. There are throngs of people across the lands who don't use magic. Barber shops would make sense in the context of these people and would also make sense in the context of changing hair, beard, adornment and (to a lesser extent) body markings.

    I (unsurprisingly) agree with @TheShadowScout that it would be best to have different NPCs for different character change services.
    • Hair, Beard, Adornment, and Body markings change: Town Baber (One in each town)
    • Name Change: Visit the Town Magistrate (One in each zone).
    • Race/Gender/Body Change: Visit the Face Sculptor (One in each Faction, as you suggest @Levi )
    • Class Change: Visit the appropriate Class Master (One of each Master in each Faction)
    • Faction Change: Visit the Defector (One in each Faction)

    Of course, this would all take a lot more effort than just having a scroll that we buy that sends us back to character creation. We will see what ZOS chooses to do... I know what I'm betting on. :confused:
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  • leepalmer95
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    I they make the cost to change race reasonable enough then you'd get people who would happlily pay it a few times when trying magicka/stamina builds.

    If it's expensive maybe they'll do it once?
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I (unsurprisingly) agree with @TheShadowScout that it would be best to have different NPCs for different character change services.
    • Hair, Beard, Adornment, and Body markings change: Town Baber (One in each town)
    • Name Change: Visit the Town Magistrate (One in each zone).
    • Race/Gender/Body Change: Visit the Face Sculptor (One in each Faction, as you suggest @Levi )
    • Class Change: Visit the appropriate Class Master (One of each Master in each Faction)
    • Faction Change: Visit the Defector (One in each Faction)

    Of course, this would all take a lot more effort than just having a scroll that we buy that sends us back to character creation. We will see what ZOS chooses to do... I know what I'm betting on. :confused:
    Yay, agreement! ;)
    But it is a good idea, if I may say so myself. One does not need everything on every corner... and some in-game option would be much better then a mere crown store "rename scroll"

    The only one that should be in every major city would be the "town barber" much like general merchants, that one. Should not be too much effort to add - it'd be one NPC and maybe a "barbershop" stall... call it the same additional effort as the dye stations, maybe.

    A recordkeeper for namechanges would be best placed in the faction capital, no need for more then one. Plop that one down right next to the respec shrines, or somewhere close... a nearby library, perhaps... I recall there are some currently unused rooms in Mournhold town hall and Wayrest castle where that one would look good. For AD... well... free standing bookshelves and a desk full of paperwork can certainly be squeezed into some corner of the great tree I would think...

    And the "Face Sculptor" or whatever... could well be in coldharbour. That IS a region everyone goes to, and even better, a region where reality may be a bit thinner then on Nirn... not that it would be that much of an issue, even mere alchemy has shown the ability to change people quite a bit after all... though of course I could see how people might want to offer the option sooner, so maybe the faction capital outlaw refugee would also be a likely place for that one?

    Class changes are not on the table at this point, and likely never will be. Can't really think of any game that went with that... not that I know more then a handful of MMO games though.

    Faction changes... those I wouldn't want from some lone NPC, but with an whole quest line! Which could be started by an item akin to the undaunted invitation, mail-delivered or just appearing in your inventory like an reward pack... but it should be something way more epic then "pay the crowns, pop into new faction". I want a whole lot of running around every zone of their homelands (possibly reusing some old instances), I want background as to why that character feels they have to defect, I want cloak and dagger as they make contact with agents of their desired faction, I want chases and daring escapes as they leave their old lands just barely ahead of the guards and set out towards their new life...
  • Levi
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    Gidorick wrote: »

    I disagree... Magic in Tamriel isn't an all encompassing thing. Before ESO the Fighter's Guild weren't Magicians. There are throngs of people across the lands who don't use magic. Barber shops would make sense in the context of these people and would also make sense in the context of changing hair, beard, adornment and (to a lesser extent) body markings.

    I (unsurprisingly) agree with @TheShadowScout that it would be best to have different NPCs for different character change services.
    • Hair, Beard, Adornment, and Body markings change: Town Baber (One in each town)
    • Name Change: Visit the Town Magistrate (One in each zone).
    • Race/Gender/Body Change: Visit the Face Sculptor (One in each Faction, as you suggest @Levi )
    • Class Change: Visit the appropriate Class Master (One of each Master in each Faction)
    • Faction Change: Visit the Defector (One in each Faction)

    Of course, this would all take a lot more effort than just having a scroll that we buy that sends us back to character creation. We will see what ZOS chooses to do... I know what I'm betting on. :confused:

    The sooner they can get it out the better. It would be nice to have the bit of immersion with the barber chairs and face sculpters, but it isn't necessary.
    I like these ideas. However, I disagree with there ever being a class change. I don't think there is a need or reason for it, and I think ZOS agrees by their comments in one of the previous ESO live shows. Faction Change is tricky. There are a lot of issues in PVP that would make this hard with a tendency of many to switch to whatever faction is winning. Regardless of what many would say, a lot of people would do this, and it would be bad for PvP. ZOS is taking care of my desire for a faction change by allowing cross faction dungeon runs and (hopefully) trial runs, though, so I don't think PvE people will care about it anymore.
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    petraeus1 wrote: »
    As long as they don't lock it behind a cash pay wall I'll be semi happy with anything

    Don't see why they wouldn't monetize it, nor why they shouldn't, except to get goodwill. Don't get your hopes up, at least part of it will be tied to Crowns somehow. Frankly I wouldn't mind - I never paid for a barbershop, they're developing one by popular request, so they'd be silly not to monetize it somehow.

    Like others have said, there are things you charge IRL currency for and things you don't.

    When you create a character though and get it into the game world, chances are it does't look quite the same as it did in the character creator (Lighting difference comes to mind). Tweaking your character to create this deboggle should not cost us IRL money.
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    I want you to fix the lag in PvP.
  • wskill
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    If i can buy bright blue hair for my sorceror im happy.

    Sadly i still need to remake my fat berserker because his legs were WAY too thick so that running around in armor looked weird. Ohwell.

    But eh, yeah my vote for the barbershop aswell.
    Absolutely no outrageous crazy anime hair colors or hairs. ><That would seriously be beyond immersion breaking for me and many others Im sure. If people want that, they should find a game that has it, not expect it to be thrown into a game that has an established style in itself. Even if its crownstore exclusive--stuff like that shoudn't exist in this game at all.

    and here we have someone who thinks that in a fantasy game there cant be 'crazy anime hair colors'.
    Did you ever consider maybe wood elves had green hair and wizards blue?

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  • slumber_sandb16_ESO
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    I want seperation of facial adornments, facial hair and face paint/tattoos. I want my orcs to have horns and a beard, not one or the other.
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    This. Mostly free, except for your examples [sex, race, alliance]. Although I would be ok with gold vs. crowns to change simple things like hair, body etc. The transition from CC to in-game doesn't always translate well. I really want to fix my mains eye seperation but I don't think I should have to chance real money that I don't get it right again. I have made LOADS of characters in the CC and sometimes it's perfect, exactly what I want, other times, I get a good laugh.
    Like others have said, there are things you charge IRL currency for and things you don't.

    When you create a character though and get it into the game world, chances are it does't look quite the same as it did in the character creator (Lighting difference comes to mind). Tweaking your character to create this deboggle should not cost us IRL money.

    EXACTLY. I don’t think many people are going to be keen on wasting real money (crowns) on making changes that may not even look right once they get in game. The current discrepancy between character creation -> character selection -> and actual in game appearance is really quite terrible, it’s nearly impossible to tell whether your adjustments will actually look the way you wanted them to until you’ve exited the character creation screen. This is why I would only consider paying crowns to buy an account-wide upgrade that allowed me access to make whatever changes I want (either for free or perhaps in game gold). But if they make individual changes or sessions cost crowns, there is no way I’d risk it. It’s too much of a trial and error process and paying individually for a multitude of experimental tweaks is not going to make for happy customers.

    I nearly died when I saw my first character in the character selection screen. While running through the wailing prison I was already thinking her hips looked way wider than I thought I’d made them, and then I logged out: She had been absolutely adorable in character creation, then suddenly she looked like her eyes were crossed and her face was smashed in (like a barbie after you press your thumb into its face). I remade her several times and finally just gave up, she always looks atrocious on the character selection page, though she does look slightly closer to how she’s supposed to when I’m looking at my in game inventory, but outside of those menus her face is still squashed when I bring the camera in close to look at her, or when my friend takes a screenshot. With the success rate I’m used to with character creation (and I’ve played around with it a LOT and currently have 24 characters) I would not bet my real life money on fiddling with changes. :( Honestly given the poor relation between character creation and in game appearance, the option to make changes after creation OUGHT to be part of the BASE GAME.

    As I believe I’ve said before, if they want to sell additional hair or tattoo packs to make extra money off it, fine, but it would simply not be reasonable to use an individual change-scroll model for gaining access to the ‘barber shop’. Pleas oh please Zenimax, make it an account upgrade like the any-race-any-alliance Explorer Pack!
  • CamBam370
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    Make it so that people can pay gold.
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    I want separation of facial adornments, facial hair and face paint/tattoos. I want my orcs to have horns and a beard, not one or the other.

    I would like this too. I would also like some eyeshadows without accompanying lipsticks, and vice versa.
    It would be really nice if some of the jewelry could also be separate and characters not forced to wear head adornment and earrings together.

    I'd also like a wider range of hair and eye tones in natural colours, though I also could do without neon green, pink and blue and other such hair colours. It would look really out of place in the world I think. If there were a deep forest green for wood elves ( to use the example mentioned above ) or a dark blue-black or something like that I think it would fit, but not eye bleeding bright colours.
    I love that ESO has it's muted, natural and tasteful palette.

    I'm not averse to either paying gold or crowns to use a barbershop. TSW does the same thing. You can buy a coupon from the store for or use in game currency to use their barber. I always thought that was a good compromise.


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  • Daymond
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    Couldnt they make it a dlc for a one time payment and make it a place you teleport to. As for new hair and tattoos thay can bunch them up and sell them as hair packs for crowns.
    Would make it eso plus members could change their characters for free.

    If this was suggested before sorry really did not feel like reading all the posts. :p
    Edited by Daymond on February 16, 2016 3:45AM
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  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I prefer overly complicated @IcyDeadPeople ! See pretty much any of the concepts in my Concept Repository (link in the signature.) heheh.

    However, I was thinking of a system that would tally your total for all the changes you want to make and then you would check out once. I see I didn't cover that in the OP. Thanks for pointing that out!

    Still,it would cost too much.400c for this,400 for that,and on and on.It's a bit much for just eyebrows. 100c might work,but it would still be annoying to have to buy each one separately.
    IcyDeadPeople is right,in my opinion.Just pay for one full Barber Shop.Also,I dont think it should be just one time usage either.
    Pay say,2500c for it and use it if you want,when you want.There is no hair off anyone else's head as to how many times you change your looks.And in the other TES games you could use the race menu as many times as you want,so why not here.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I prefer overly complicated @IcyDeadPeople ! See pretty much any of the concepts in my Concept Repository (link in the signature.) heheh.

    However, I was thinking of a system that would tally your total for all the changes you want to make and then you would check out once. I see I didn't cover that in the OP. Thanks for pointing that out!

    Still,it would cost too much.400c for this,400 for that,and on and on.It's a bit much for just eyebrows. 100c might work,but it would still be annoying to have to buy each one separately.
    IcyDeadPeople is right,in my opinion.Just pay for one full Barber Shop.Also,I dont think it should be just one time usage either.
    Pay say,2500c for it and use it if you want,when you want.There is no hair off anyone else's head as to how many times you change your looks.And in the other TES games you could use the race menu as many times as you want,so why not here.

    @Volkodav , do you get that I suggest that the barbershop be released for FREE that the USE of the barbershop charge in game GOLD and that buying new additions like new hairstyles and new adornments be based on CROWNS?

    I couldn't see a situation where changing hair should cost REAL money... Want to change eyebrows? It'll cost gold.

    This design would serve 3 purposes
    • Give players options they want
    • Add a gold sink to the game
    • Generate regular revenue for ZOS

    A one time fee for the barbershop would
    • Give players options they want
    • Generate a one time sale for ZOS

    I like to try to support and suggest ideas that will satisfy the most people and be the most beneficial for the game while generating revenue for ZOS.
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  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I prefer overly complicated @IcyDeadPeople ! See pretty much any of the concepts in my Concept Repository (link in the signature.) heheh.

    However, I was thinking of a system that would tally your total for all the changes you want to make and then you would check out once. I see I didn't cover that in the OP. Thanks for pointing that out!

    Still,it would cost too much.400c for this,400 for that,and on and on.It's a bit much for just eyebrows. 100c might work,but it would still be annoying to have to buy each one separately.
    IcyDeadPeople is right,in my opinion.Just pay for one full Barber Shop.Also,I dont think it should be just one time usage either.
    Pay say,2500c for it and use it if you want,when you want.There is no hair off anyone else's head as to how many times you change your looks.And in the other TES games you could use the race menu as many times as you want,so why not here.

    @Volkodav , do you get that I suggest that the barbershop be released for FREE that the USE of the barbershop charge in game GOLD and that buying new additions like new hairstyles and new adornments be based on CROWNS?

    I couldn't see a situation where changing hair should cost REAL money... Want to change eyebrows? It'll cost gold.

    This design would serve 3 purposes
    • Give players options they want
    • Add a gold sink to the game
    • Generate regular revenue for ZOS

    A one time fee for the barbershop would
    • Give players options they want
    • Generate a one time sale for ZOS

    I like to try to support and suggest ideas that will satisfy the most people and be the most beneficial for the game while generating revenue for ZOS.

    Ok,ok..dont flay me.I was merely agreeing with one other person here,in that dividing the items up,as you mentioned,..eye brows for one price,hair another,etc would be a bit much.
  • Gidorick
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I prefer overly complicated @IcyDeadPeople ! See pretty much any of the concepts in my Concept Repository (link in the signature.) heheh.

    However, I was thinking of a system that would tally your total for all the changes you want to make and then you would check out once. I see I didn't cover that in the OP. Thanks for pointing that out!

    Still,it would cost too much.400c for this,400 for that,and on and on.It's a bit much for just eyebrows. 100c might work,but it would still be annoying to have to buy each one separately.
    IcyDeadPeople is right,in my opinion.Just pay for one full Barber Shop.Also,I dont think it should be just one time usage either.
    Pay say,2500c for it and use it if you want,when you want.There is no hair off anyone else's head as to how many times you change your looks.And in the other TES games you could use the race menu as many times as you want,so why not here.

    @Volkodav , do you get that I suggest that the barbershop be released for FREE that the USE of the barbershop charge in game GOLD and that buying new additions like new hairstyles and new adornments be based on CROWNS?

    I couldn't see a situation where changing hair should cost REAL money... Want to change eyebrows? It'll cost gold.

    This design would serve 3 purposes
    • Give players options they want
    • Add a gold sink to the game
    • Generate regular revenue for ZOS

    A one time fee for the barbershop would
    • Give players options they want
    • Generate a one time sale for ZOS

    I like to try to support and suggest ideas that will satisfy the most people and be the most beneficial for the game while generating revenue for ZOS.

    Ok,ok..dont flay me.I was merely agreeing with one other person here,in that dividing the items up,as you mentioned,..eye brows for one price,hair another,etc would be a bit much.

    lol. Ok @ Volkodav... I just wanted to make sure people didn't think I was suggesting that we pay real money to just CHANGE hairstyles. I would be 1000% on board with a "X amount of gold to make changes using the barbershop". One flat fee that you pay every time for everything and not tallying each thing you do.

    Mostly my three desires for the barber shop are:
    • Free to use/play around with
    • Gold to change appearance
    • Crowns to buy new options

    All the other stuff like... being actual barbers... different NPCS for different features... that's all fluff.

    Edited by Gidorick on February 16, 2016 6:00AM
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  • Volkodav
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    I prefer overly complicated @IcyDeadPeople ! See pretty much any of the concepts in my Concept Repository (link in the signature.) heheh.

    However, I was thinking of a system that would tally your total for all the changes you want to make and then you would check out once. I see I didn't cover that in the OP. Thanks for pointing that out!

    Still,it would cost too much.400c for this,400 for that,and on and on.It's a bit much for just eyebrows. 100c might work,but it would still be annoying to have to buy each one separately.
    IcyDeadPeople is right,in my opinion.Just pay for one full Barber Shop.Also,I dont think it should be just one time usage either.
    Pay say,2500c for it and use it if you want,when you want.There is no hair off anyone else's head as to how many times you change your looks.And in the other TES games you could use the race menu as many times as you want,so why not here.

    @Volkodav , do you get that I suggest that the barbershop be released for FREE that the USE of the barbershop charge in game GOLD and that buying new additions like new hairstyles and new adornments be based on CROWNS?

    I couldn't see a situation where changing hair should cost REAL money... Want to change eyebrows? It'll cost gold.

    This design would serve 3 purposes
    • Give players options they want
    • Add a gold sink to the game
    • Generate regular revenue for ZOS

    A one time fee for the barbershop would
    • Give players options they want
    • Generate a one time sale for ZOS

    I like to try to support and suggest ideas that will satisfy the most people and be the most beneficial for the game while generating revenue for ZOS.

    Ok,ok..dont flay me.I was merely agreeing with one other person here,in that dividing the items up,as you mentioned,..eye brows for one price,hair another,etc would be a bit much.

    lol. Ok @ Volkodav... I just wanted to make sure people didn't think I was suggesting that we pay real money to just CHANGE hairstyles. I would be 1000% on board with a "X amount of gold to make changes using the barbershop". One flat fee that you pay every time for everything and not tallying each thing you do.

    Mostly my three desires for the barber shop is:
    • Free to use/play around with
    • Gold to change appearance
    • Crowns to buy new options

    Perfect.I like that. I knew you didnt mean real money which was why I added the little "c" right after the pricing. :}
    Edited by Volkodav on February 16, 2016 6:00AM
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    I dont see them doing this with gold and without paying crowns.
    They have spent alot of developer time on it and too many people want the option.
    I cant recall ever seeing character change options for free in any game.
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  • Volkodav
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    I dont see them doing this with gold and without paying crowns.
    They have spent alot of developer time on it and too many people want the option.
    I cant recall ever seeing character change options for free in any game.

    You have never played Morrowind,Oblivion,or Skyrim.You just have to bring up the console and type in Racemenu,..and you have it all there to change whatever you want,including your name.Free of charge.
    Edited by Volkodav on February 16, 2016 7:01AM
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I dont see them doing this with gold and without paying crowns.
    They have spent alot of developer time on it and too many people want the option.
    I cant recall ever seeing character change options for free in any game.

    You have never played Morrowind,Oblivion,or Skyrim.You just have to bring up the console and type in Racemenu,..and you have it all there to change whatever you want,including your name.Free of charge.

    You're right I didn't, but those were single player games. They didn't have the continuing development and overhead that this one does. This game needs to continue bringing in revenue to pay for the ongoing development of DLCs and other content.

    Edited by Katahdin on February 16, 2016 7:44AM
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  • Volkodav
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    Katahdin wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    I dont see them doing this with gold and without paying crowns.
    They have spent alot of developer time on it and too many people want the option.
    I cant recall ever seeing character change options for free in any game.

    You have never played Morrowind,Oblivion,or Skyrim.You just have to bring up the console and type in Racemenu,..and you have it all there to change whatever you want,including your name.Free of charge.

    You're right I didn't, but those were single player games. They didn't have the continuing development and overhead that this one does. This game needs to continue bringing in revenue to pay for the ongoing development of DLCs and other content.

    Yes,I agree.I was merely commenting on the point that you had never seen a game that had those abilities.Had you said MMOs,then I would have had no comment.
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    I'm generally happy with how my characters look. Definitely think a barber shop is needed but not desperate for it myself.

    I don't care much for the existing (male) hairstyles. For each race there's typically only a few I could even bear to be seen wearing so unless there are new hairstyles coming, there'd be no motivation for me to use the barber shop for this.

    Would love to see some new tattoos and to have some control over the colour. Maybe also some magic sigils with a bit of glow or sizzle - costing crowns to buy obviously.
    Gidorick wrote: »
    Mostly my three desires for the barber shop are:
    • Free to use/play around with
    • Gold to change appearance
    • Crowns to buy new options

    This sounds good to me but have to admit I might be willing to pay real money to change appearance if the cost was reasonable and there were some appealing new options. GW2's are about $4 and on sale occasionally. I've happily bought and used a few of those.
    Aelthwyn wrote: »
    The current discrepancy between character creation -> character selection -> and actual in game appearance is really quite terrible, it’s nearly impossible to tell whether your adjustments will actually look the way you wanted them to until you’ve exited the character creation screen.

    This - especially in combination with the character deletion limit - is one of the things I hate most about ESO. Wasting weeks just trying to get a character I liked the look of was a strong motivator to cancel my sub (back before it went B2P).

    So I think what would be nice is a 30 minute money back guarantee. Give players some time after leaving the barber shop to see how they really look and if they're not happy, they can return and be reverted to their previous appearance and get a refund.

    And maybe to account for the existing difficulties with character creation give new players a free change token but limited to the options available during creation.
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    Davadin wrote: »
    5. No - I repeat, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - hair dye. You pick a color during char creation, you stick with it. I swear the day I see somebody with green or pink hair running around, not only I will boycott the game, I will do my very best to advise all of my guilds to leave with me.

    thanks,

    One of the normal hair colors is already pink
    Cthulhu is coming, look busy
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    Please include the ability to add/delete body paint & or tattoos.

    What looked good in character creation looks bad on my beautiful templar. I buy less dresses because her tatt looks terrible.
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