Xellos77 wrote: »

Spacemonkey wrote: »

Morrowind.

I somehow missed the part when in the census excise office he strongly suggests you visit caius cosade, i took it as such. A suggestion, and didnt follow it. Theres so little handhelding in the game that I played 6 months straight without knowing there was a main quest, piecing all these hints and pieces I kept hearing about the blight, dagoth ur, the tribunal and the corprus and started telling one of my freinds how I was pretty sure something would unfold etc.... so umm, he told me I was an idiot and was supposed to talk to caius cosades and give him his packages. I panicked a bit because I had no clue where that package was, scoured eastern Vvardenfell for it and eventually found it in Seyda Neens tradehouse.

Started Main quest at level 20+, that first 6 months was the most freedom I've ever experienced in any game - and Morrowind as a whole is still the rpg that offers the most. F**k user-friendliness in single player games I say. Be bold devs, be bold.

That's what I truly miss about RPG's like that and other, older games. Little or NO hand holding. Go figure it out on your own.

Nowadays? Quest markers with explicit instructions, right down to automatically opening your inventory to hand out key items or showing you exactly what/how you need to do something.

Just give me the keys to the car and let me figure out how to drive.

Morrowind gave even less information - here is the key, now figure out where it might fit. It did not tell you what it is for.

Smitch_59 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Skyrim. I bought all the other TES games but put them down quickly, I just couldn't get into them. However, I had low expectations for Skyrim and figured I would play it a day or two then put it down. OH NO, Skyrim was one of my favorite games of ALL TIME, it was a masterpiece.

And so is Oblivion, just do yourself a favor and do not go to Kwatch too early on. It would just ruin the beauty of Cyrrodil and mess with quest givers (they might get killed). Just experience it without to go too early into the main quest line.

Edit: basically go to the priory, deliver the amulet, accept the free horse from a monk and ride into your adventure and forget about for a while that there is a main story line This gives the best experience with Oblivion.

Agreed. Although the longer you wait to go to Kvatch, the tougher it gets when you finally do go there as the game levels up with you. So if you go to Kvatch early, you only have to deal with scamps. If you wait until you have leveled up, you might have to fight daedroths!

Also, after you eventually go to Kvatch and get Brother Martin, if you avoid going back to the Weynon Priory, Brother Martin will follow you anywhere. He will help you fight and he can't be killed since he is crucial to the main quest.

Yes, I have played it very late in the game - enemies were extreme and many paralyzed all the time - but as a master alchemist, I had enough potions to neutralize that, it was not really a problem. The problem with Oblivion is if you do not level optimal in the early game, you will get underpowered, but if you level optimal and use magic to the most, you will get god-like and basically nothing can really harm you - especially not with very powerful potions, enchanted normal clothes (for not having to repair them) and weapons which drain or absorb attributes - of course being a Breton born under the Atronach. Nothing can stop you then. Magic against you is either resisted or absorbed, and normal weapons do not much to you.

Daggerfall.

Yeah, I'm old.

dem0n1k wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Would not make me wonder, if Lucien Lachance was the one, who brought you to becoming a nightblade. I will never forget when I first met him, after I accidently killed someone innocent, went to bed and Lucien Lachance showed up and made me an offer. Lucien is one of the most memorable characters in Oblivion IMO. I got hooked to the dark brotherhood and am looking forward to how ZOS will be implementing this. In Morrowind it was the Morag Tong which got me hooked.

Yes! The Dark Brotherhood intro & missions in Oblivion were so cool. Hail Sithis ! I also did all the Alchemy & loved the poisoning of weapons. My triple poison arrows would stun & kill pretty much anything... except those pesky Argonians

My memory of it is fading now.. but I had a tower up in the mountains... I am not sure if it was part of Oblivion or a mod.. It was a wizards tower that had a full garden on Alchemy reagents in it. Absolutely stunning view from the top of the tower.. it really made me feel like a powerful hero I would stand at the top of it in my glass armour.. a light smoke issuing from me as my vampiric skin smouldered in the sunlight... looking down on Cyrodiil & taking screen snapshots.

I really wish ESO had underwater stuff like Oblivion (or was it Skyrim!?) had too. There were some nice thrills to be had looking for secret doors whilst holding your breath underwater.

Both games had underwater stuff and even Morrowind had flooded caves, iirc - maybe you remember that a pretty valuable helmet was in a sunken wreck off the Gold Coast near Anvil. I think your tower was a mod, I can remember the tower as well and a couple of other class-specific player homes like this in the same collection, but I removed them, because "my home" in that collection was quite buggy.It was somewhere high up in the Jerall mountains east of Bruma.

Armor?- Nah, not for my character - well, for a while, until I had all the intro quests to the magic academy done. But once I was allowed to access the spell crafter and enchanter, I made myself enchanted clothes (those do not decay and have never again to be repaired) a bow with absorb strength, which goes well with the "burden" poison and allows to nail most enemies from the far in place (if they have too less strength left to carry their own stuff while being burdened with additional weight) or move their strength to my character, in case they nevertheless come near me, so that I can just 1-hit them when they arrive, due to that I have absorbed most of their strength and have now a powerful swing - alchemy 50 was enough for this, great fun. Absorb and drain magic was my favorite, either on fast daggers or a bow - the faster I can hit on someone, the more I absorb/drain, getting stronger with every hit, while my enemy gets weaker - this made daggers into extremely dangerous weapons just due to the high frequency in which you can apply their magic effect to the target.

I really wish we would have spellcrafting and usable poisons in ESO - I was so disappointed that I drank my poison in ESO.