Thieves Guild Bug Compilation Thread

  • LMar
    LMar
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I keep finding torsoless people too:

    pYHmqIS.png
    "If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
    "Taller races now sit in chairs correctly"
  • Thavie
    Thavie
    ✭✭✭✭
    Not sure if a bug or just bad animation, but this looks weird:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orNZUWIwaB0
    "We grew under a bad sun"
  • Paulington
    Paulington
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    The missing torsos are currently a known issue.
    Any female NPC wearing a pirate costume is currently missing parts of their torso.
  • Enodoc
    Enodoc
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dominoid wrote: »
    The "Laundered Item Crate" rewards from troves contain items that need to be laundered. The description says the items have already been laundered - hence laundered item crate not stolen item crate. Seems wrong. That's all.
    Yeah I found the same with "Large Laundered Shipment". Both the original container and the items inside are flagged stolen; none of them are clean.

    If that's intended, then the description needs to be changed to alleviate confusion; otherwise, it's a bug.
    Edited by Enodoc on February 6, 2016 4:44PM
    UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
    Join us on Discord - discord.gg/uesp
  • Anemonean
    Anemonean
    ✭✭✭
    Sys: 2013 Macbookpro, intel HD 4000 gfx, 2.6ghz i5, 8gb ram, OSX 10.11.3
    Character: Vasnya Indoril (Live transfer not template.) V16 Nightblade
    Playing on default graphics setting: Low

    The game crashes for me on looting Iron Wheel mobs in Abah's Landing. Game crashes at the exact moment I press E. This has been a consistant crash, happening 4-5 times yesterday while on 'Cleaning House" quest for thieves guild and again 3 times today. It never does NOT happen, every attempted looting crashes the game. Also happens when looting treasure chests in the same area. This is southern abah's landing, not sure if it happens elsewhere.

    Heres the crash report for looting a mob
    [reporter]
    version = 0.01


    [extra]
    ProductName = eso
    Version = eso.rc.2.3.0.1262254
    char.account = Anemonean
    char.alliance = 2
    char.name = Vasnya Indoril
    client.executablebits = 64
    client.mode = inworld
    client.renderertype = OPENGL
    client.session_start_timestamp = 2016-02-06T17:21:23.655Z
    client.time_since_load = 47
    client.timestamp = 2016-02-06T17:24:18.290Z -frme 5880-
    client.uptime = 174.6
    computer.name = Aventinus.local
    computer.user = jessesamson
    cpu.count = 2
    data.depotid = 3009
    data.dir = /Applications/Zenimax Online/The Elder Scrolls Online PTS/game_
    data.syncm = databuild
    data.version = 0.win.0.rc.1262254
    exe.buildnum = 1262254
    exe.opt = release
    exe.reltype = public
    exe.type = client
    gfx.description = Intel HD Graphics 4000 OpenGL Engine
    gfx.deviceid = 0.0.0
    gfx.driver = 4.1 INTEL-10.12.13
    gfx.vendorid = 0
    globby.address = 198.20.205.41
    globby.port = 24506
    loc.wloc = 707 150540 12747 135875 163.83
    loc.world = Hew's Bane
    loc.worldid = 707
    loc.zone = Hew's Bane
    login.address = 198.20.205.41
    mem.system_physical = 8192
    mem.total_current = 5450
    mem.ws_current = 2039
    mem.ws_peak = 2687
    os.platform = mac
    os.version = 15D21
    realm.depotid = 0
    realm.id = 3009
    realm.name = PTS
    reportfield.ver = 3

    and here's a crash report for looting an unowned simple chest. The game crashed after i picked the lock but before I could loot
    [reporter]
    version = 0.01


    [extra]
    ProductName = eso
    Version = eso.rc.2.3.0.1262254
    char.account = Anemonean
    char.alliance = 2
    char.name = Vasnya Indoril
    client.executablebits = 64
    client.mode = inworld
    client.renderertype = OPENGL
    client.session_start_timestamp = 2016-02-06T17:26:20.963Z
    client.time_since_load = 444
    client.timestamp = 2016-02-06T17:36:28.855Z -frme 13150-
    client.uptime = 607.9
    computer.name = Aventinus.local
    computer.user = jessesamson
    cpu.count = 2
    data.depotid = 3009
    data.dir = /Applications/Zenimax Online/The Elder Scrolls Online PTS/game_
    data.syncm = databuild
    data.version = 0.win.0.rc.1262254
    exe.buildnum = 1262254
    exe.opt = release
    exe.reltype = public
    exe.type = client
    gfx.description = Intel HD Graphics 4000 OpenGL Engine
    gfx.deviceid = 0.0.0
    gfx.driver = 4.1 INTEL-10.12.13
    gfx.vendorid = 0
    globby.address = 198.20.205.41
    globby.port = 24502
    loc.wloc = 707 141902 13818 136410 51.54
    loc.world = Hew's Bane
    loc.worldid = 707
    loc.zone = Hew's Bane
    login.address = 198.20.205.41
    mem.system_physical = 8192
    mem.total_current = 5599
    mem.ws_current = 1352
    mem.ws_peak = 2628
    os.platform = mac
    os.version = 15D21
    realm.depotid = 0
    realm.id = 3009
    realm.name = PTS
    reportfield.ver = 3
    Edited by Anemonean on February 6, 2016 5:41PM
    Calling all thieves, check out my Lockbox maps: http://roguesfolio.tumblr.com

    Also announcing the all new Legerdemain & Thievery guide: http://roguesfolio.tumblr.com/Guide

    And an all new work of fiction based on the maps: http://roguesfolio.tumblr.com/Story
  • remilafo
    remilafo
    ✭✭✭✭
    BUG Report:

    For Sorc

    The new pet abilities don't Trigger the 2% extra Spell/weapon damage bonus from Expert mage in the Storm tree.

    Once you summon a pet and the ability changes you get a drop in spell/weapon dmg.

    Basically they are not registering as sorc abilities, please fix.
  • MissBizz
    MissBizz
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Character: Aewnes

    In Bahraha's Gloom some of the trunks and containers are marked as "Drink." When you scroll over the chests they say drink, as well, you actually loot a drink.

    Stuck in animation with Toppling Charge. Maybe due to CC's and whatnot while using it?

    Setting off a trap while interacting with blank wall in Shark Teeth's Grotto make your character make a visible marking on the wall, but it doesn't count is as completed for the quest. You have to have back to the "blank" wall (which you can visibly see your marking on) and re-mark it to complete it for the quest.

    Cannot interact with (disarm) a wire trap in Shark Teeth Grotto. Used weapon which brought up ability to interact with the wire trap. This is the only trap I had a problem with.. but I definitely set off far more traps than I disarmed lol

    As well, can confirm I'm getting the same keybind error message bug after I go through a loading screen and attempt to open my map. After I close the error I am able to open my map, and as far as I can tell it happens every time I open my map after a loading screen (but then doesn't happen until another loading screen).
    Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord
  • Enodoc
    Enodoc
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are a few locked buildings around Abah's Landing that you can break and enter without it being considered a crime (the "Unlock" prompt is not red, no bounty if detected). Entering these locations is also not considered Trespassing, despite the inhabitants acting as though it should be.
    • Padrul's House (near the blacksmith)
    • Apprentice Lodgings (between the Fighters Guild and the crafting alley)
    • Darano's House (northeast of the Thieves Den cistern entrance)
    • Gemane's House (southeast of Darano's House, upstairs)
    • Banker's Office (above the bank)

    Edit: All forms of breaking and entering in the old base-game zones also seem to have lost the criminal aspect of that act, as those prompts are no longer red either.
    Edited by Enodoc on February 6, 2016 8:14PM
    UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
    Join us on Discord - discord.gg/uesp
  • Dominoid
    Dominoid
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Enodoc wrote: »
    There are a few locked buildings around Abah's Landing that you can break and enter without it being considered a crime (the "Unlock" prompt is not red, no bounty if detected). Entering these locations is also not considered Trespassing, despite the inhabitants acting as though it should be.
    • Padrul's House (near the blacksmith)
    • Apprentice Lodgings (between the Fighters Guild and the crafting alley)
    • Darano's House (northeast of the Thieves Den cistern entrance)
    • Gemane's House (southeast of Darano's House, upstairs)
    • Banker's Office (above the bank)

    Edit: All forms of breaking and entering in the old base-game zones also seem to have lost the criminal aspect of that act, as those prompts are no longer red either.

    All of the old zones have loss their red trespass text when breaking and entering as well. I assume it's to not be confused with the new trespassing mechanic. These old areas really should contain the new trespass bounty thing. They would need less inhabitants though.
  • Ra'Shtar
    Ra'Shtar
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    The people playing dice on the southern part of Abah's Landing are throwing the dices in the wrong location it looks weird (look closely at the feet of the redguard)
    Some of my favorite screenshots
    My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
  • Enodoc
    Enodoc
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    This may have been mentioned already, but:

    Character: Enodoc (VR16 DC Template)
    Quest: Under Our Thumb
    Tasks: Pickpocket Personal Items in Glenumbra / Pickpocket Any Items in Glenumbra
    Location: Daggerfall Marketplace
    NPC: Sandire Laelippe

    Upon looting "Dragon Paperweight" from Sandre, the quest progressed one tick on "Pickpocket Personal Items in Glenumbra" and two ticks on "Pickpocket Any Items in Glenumbra".

    First screenshot shows UESPlog quest objective tracker, which clearly shows the "All Items" task ticking twice; once straight after the "Personal Items" task ticks, and again after a TRACKER GOAL tick. Second screenshot shows (correct) progression ticking from a single "Any Item" for comparison.

    (On a side note, "Pickpocket Private Citizens" is not a very descriptive hint, as there is no indication of what a "private citizen" actually is. Trial and error alone led to the realisation that Sandire Laelippe clearly is one.)
    UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
    Join us on Discord - discord.gg/uesp
  • Helluin
    Helluin
    ✭✭✭
      Character: Helluin Test (EP VR16, Thieves Guild template)
      [*]Vampire >> Clouding Swarm

      If Magelight is used during Clouding Swarm, Magelight breaks the invisibility of this ultimate.
      If Magelight is used before Clouding Swarm, there is no invisibility at all.
      Despite what written on tooltip invisibility is not regranted even if broken.

      This behaviour makes Clouding Swarm useless and the only good option is the other morph Devouring Swarm.

      Character: Helluin Estel (AD VR16, Thieves Guild template)
      [*] Weapon Enchantments >> Glyph of Poison

      The damage dealt (both direct and DoT one) by this glyph uses spell penetration instead of armor penetration.
      Testing it with multiple options of Champion points, Mighty improves Poison Glyph damage but the penetration used in the calculation is spell one instead of armor one.
      Spell Penetration infact improves the damage of this glyph, while Piercing has no effects on the damage dealt.
      Edited by Helluin on February 7, 2016 12:02AM
      "... and the blue fire of Helluin flickered in the mists above the borders of the world, in that hour the Children of the Earth awoke, the Firstborn of Ilúvatar."
    1. Saturn
      Saturn
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      DISBAND BUG:
      Disbanding a group inside MoL and leaving the instance gave everyone in the group the notorious group bug, which took 20 minutes to fix. I hope this particular bug gets squashed soon as it makes the use of "disband group" a huge problem.

      NO LOOT PROBLEM:

      Had a wipe on the last boss of Maw of Lorkhaj when the boss died. We killed the boss, got the achievements for clearing, but couldn't loot the boss. Same thing happens if you die during the big add encounters with the chests at the end.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CsTw-BSLGo

      Edited by Saturn on February 7, 2016 12:03AM
      "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

      Fire and Ice
    2. Enodoc
      Enodoc
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Character: Enodoc (VR16 DC Template)
      Quest: Crime Spree
      Tasks: Break Into Any Single Safebox in Geenshade
      Location: Marbruk Fighters Guild

      Upon looting the safebox in the Marbruk Tavern, the quest did not progress. Tried again in the Marbruk Fighters Guild, again no quest progression.

      Screenshot shows UESPlog quest objective tracker after looting the second safebox in the Fighters Guild, which shows that the action registered in the quest ("Safeboxes pack 2"), and the quest nominally advanced, but no new task was given.
      UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
      Join us on Discord - discord.gg/uesp
    3. Tib
      Tib
      ✭✭✭
      Enodoc wrote: »
      Character: Enodoc (VR16 DC Template)
      Quest: Crime Spree
      Tasks: Break Into Any Single Safebox in Geenshade
      Location: Marbruk Fighters Guild

      Upon looting the safebox in the Marbruk Tavern, the quest did not progress. Tried again in the Marbruk Fighters Guild, again no quest progression.

      Screenshot shows UESPlog quest objective tracker after looting the second safebox in the Fighters Guild, which shows that the action registered in the quest ("Safeboxes pack 2"), and the quest nominally advanced, but no new task was given.

      Had same problem, not sure if it's worth reporting then but I'll do it anyway.

      Character: kewpies (vr16 AD Thieves Guild Template)
      Quest: Crime Spree
      Tasks: Break Into Any Single Safebox in Geenshade
      Location: Greenshade (both Marbruk and Woodhea
      ~Tibbie~
      Senior Achievement Seeker, Scholar of UESP and the laziest trader in Tamriel
      Editor and Recent Changes Patroller at UESP
      Member of Beyond Skyrim: Iliac Bay
    4. Ra'Shtar
      Ra'Shtar
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      The NPC named Ghazana in the Thieves Den sit on the air, looks way too weird. Also the NPC named Anbi has the sounds of a guild store NPC and its a fence.
      Edited by Ra'Shtar on February 7, 2016 12:29AM
      Some of my favorite screenshots
      My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
    5. Asayre
      Asayre
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Character: Sorcerer Dummy (VR16 DC Template)
      Bugs with Sorcerer pets
      1. Winged Twilight damage is not increased by Elemental Expert, Thaumathurge, Energized passive or Elemental Talent.
      2. Winged Twilight damage increases when points are placed into Thaumathurge but this is a UI error as combat damage is unchanged.
      3. Summoning Winged Twilight causes spell power to decrease as it is no longer considered a Sorcerer ability. Again this is a UI error as combat damage is unchanged.
      4. Pet critical is unaffected by Elfborn/Precise Strikes
      5. Pet damage does not benefit from Flat Penetration (Concentration and Spell Erosion/Piercing) or Percentage Penetration (Sharpened).
      6. Empowering the Twilight Tormentor only appears to increase damage by 42% as opposed to the tooltip stated amount of 50%
      Edited by Asayre on February 7, 2016 2:06AM
      Reference for any calculation I make Introduction to PvE Damage Calculation
    6. UrQuan
      UrQuan
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Character: N'ightman
      On looting a Thieves Trove this character received a Necklace of the Night Mother (Night Mothers Embrace set item) scaled to VR1. As the character is only level 5, I would expect that items found in Thieves Troves would be scaled to his level - or is it intended that items from Thieves Troves never scale below VR1?

      Edit: I've grabbed a couple more Thieves Troves with the same level 5 character, and received a VR1 Shield of the Shadow Dancer and some level 50 Roguish Stealth Draughts. So all of the "usable" items dropped in Thieves Troves seem to always be too high level for non-vet characters to use, although they appear to scale correctly for vet rank characters.
      Edited by UrQuan on February 7, 2016 3:08AM
      Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
      Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
      Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
      Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
      J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)
      Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
      Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
      Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
      Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
      Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)
      Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
      Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
      Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
      Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
      Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp
      Someone stole my sweetroll
    7. Ra'Shtar
      Ra'Shtar
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      I don't know if this is a bug but when ever i look to Abah's Landing from any part of the zone my FPS drop dramatically (below 25)
      Some of my favorite screenshots
      My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
    8. Saucy_Jack
      Saucy_Jack
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Even after discovering the area, there's no "Abah's Landing" or "Hew's Bane" location in the map/wayshrine list; the only way to port there from another zone is to open the "Tamriel" map and click on an Abah's Landing wayshrine from there.
      ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.
    9. Saucy_Jack
      Saucy_Jack
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Also: I had a ~100g bounty. Guard accosted me; I fled. In the midst of my fleeing, I used one of htose bounty pardon consumables, bring my bounty to zero. Hid to lose the guard.

      No aggro, no bounty, I walk back into the city; a guard immediately accosts me again, and demands I pay my 0g bounty. I do to see what happens; all my stolen items are subsequently removed from my inventory, along with absolutely no gold.

      If you have no aggro and no bounty, guards shouldn't accost you, as they have no reason to.
      ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.
    10. Ra'Shtar
      Ra'Shtar
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      The Servant's Outfit clips trough the head of some khajiit characters (character name: Bru'Ki khajiit male nightblade
      Some of my favorite screenshots
      My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
    11. Ra'Shtar
      Ra'Shtar
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Yet another visual bug, medium armor outlaw style helmet on my male khajiit made my head red
      Some of my favorite screenshots
      My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
    12. Ra'Shtar
      Ra'Shtar
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      This is a major visual bug for me i can never look at that palace in the same way again knowing know its just cardboard ( i know yo have to cut in some places here and there but it just looks plain awful) here are 2 screenshots i took (max settings) of the palace at ground level and then on a rooftop close to the first screenshot.
      Its a before and after deal.
      Edited by Ra'Shtar on February 7, 2016 6:14AM
      Some of my favorite screenshots
      My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
    13. hamgatan
      hamgatan
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Visual Bug.. Textures..

      At the character creation screens it looks like each characters neck has been severed and there's an ectoplasm glow coming from it regardless of what race you choose..
      PC / NA - 1900 CP

      PvE Tanks
      L50 Imperial DK (US/DC) "Rampant Rabbit"
      L50 Nord Necro (US/DC) "Skeletons In The Closet"
      L50 Nord Arcanist (US/EP) "Now Thats a Huge Witch"

      PvE Healers
      L50 Argonian MagPlar (US/EP) "Smothers-With-Pillows"
      L50 Breton MagWarden (US/EP) "Drunk-The-Koolaid"
      L50 Altmer MagBlade (US/AD) "Never Goanna Heal You Up"

      PvE DPS
      L50 PvE DPS Khajit MagDK (US/EP) "Snowflake Crusher"
      L50 Dunmer Stam Arcanist PvE DPS (US/EP) "Sends-The-Trout"
      L50 Altmer MagSorc PvE DPS (US/DC) "Acirrum" - The vMA/vvH Potatoaky Sorc
      L50 Breton StamCro PvE DPS (US/DC) "Ivanna Fakakakis"
      L50 PvE DPS Argonian StamPlar (US/EP) "The Rusty Argonian Spade"
      L50 PvE DPS Khajit StamPlar (US/EP) "Critteh Kitteh"
      L50 Dunmer MagDK PvE DPS (US/DC) "Deep Fried Bin Chicken"

      Bank Skanks
      L20 Redguard StamBlade PvP Tank (US/AD) "Sneak Dogg"
      L40 Orc StamDen PvE DPS (US/EP) "Fugly Betty"

      PvP DPS
      L50 Orc StamSorc PvE DPS (US/AD) "Fraggle Proc"


      Xbox One / NA - 360 CP
      L50 Altmer MagBlade (US/AD) "Cork Soaking"
      L10 Argonian Templar (US/EP) "Makes-Me-Moist"
      L10 Argonian MagDK (US/EP) "<Forced-Name-Change>"
      L27 Altmer MagSorc (US/EP) "Sorcie McSorcface"

      |GM - The Bin Chicken Alliance | Aussie Dragon Slayers | Aedra | The Skooma Emporium | The Bus | The Bounty Hunters Guild |
    14. Sparky617
      Sparky617
      ✭✭✭
      I am on my v16 Breton Nightblade named Noaloxi.
      I am doing the quest line in Shark's Teeth Grotto.
      So far, all but one of the wire traps have NOT lit up yellow while sneaking to indicate that there is a disarmable trap there.
      3kqz5yx4rau5.png

      let5b7d9e39o.png
    15. Ra'Shtar
      Ra'Shtar
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Another visual bug, as you can see the mountain goes trough the ceiling on the Prince's Gate (or what ever the name is).
      Some of my favorite screenshots
      My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
    16. exiledtyrant
      exiledtyrant
      ✭✭✭
      Character name : Torque Helrock

      Description:
      Daedric Protection passive does not trigger when Twilight Matriarch is slotted or summoned. Results in a loss of 20% stamina and health regen.

      Buffs: Fortifying crown meal, Thief Mundus, Shadow Mundus, Lycanthropy
      Attributes : 22 stamina 22 Magicka 20 Health
      Champion points : 100 lady, 50 tower, 50 lover, 50 Apprentice, 50 Ritual
      Equip: 5x Twice Born Star, 2x Night mother's Gaze, 4x Agility Axes, 3x Willpower Jewelry
      If all are brethren
      How could my hands not tremble
      As breath fled my prey?

      What blinds my vision?
      My hands are tools; it must be
      The haze of blossoms

      -Salous the Penitent
    17. MissBizz
      MissBizz
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      ✭✭✭✭✭
      Sparky617 wrote: »
      I am on my v16 Breton Nightblade named Noaloxi.
      I am doing the quest line in Shark's Teeth Grotto.
      So far, all but one of the wire traps have NOT lit up yellow while sneaking to indicate that there is a disarmable trap there.
      3kqz5yx4rau5.png

      let5b7d9e39o.png

      @Sparky617 Wow. I never even saw one wire trap light up.
      Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord
    18. Ethoir
      Ethoir
      ✭✭✭
      Ethoir wrote: »
      Character name: Anurri
      Description of issue: Wake Walker Archers have a very annoying habit of being able to dodge each and every sneak attack combat initiator that is thrown at them regardless of if they are melee or ranged.

      Update: Iron Wheel Archers are doing this in No Shira Citedel too. Can't sneak attack them at all because they seem to have 100% immunity to sneak attack openers.

      Edited by Ethoir on February 7, 2016 11:13AM
      Participant in the Sanguine's Tester beta group since November 2013.
    This discussion has been closed.