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Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a Master Provisioner, why do we need new food recipes since the Orsinium quest foods were released? We do we even have other food recipes in the game? I don't mean to be harsh, but ZOS destroyed Provisioning as a craft with the release of Orsinium.
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Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As a Master Provisioner, why do we need new food recipes since the Orsinium quest foods were released? We do we even have other food recipes in the game? I don't mean to be harsh, but ZOS destroyed Provisioning as a craft with the release of Orsinium.
Lots of people still use the other recipe types. Definitely agree that there's an overabundance of requests for the new stuff, though. Makes me think the balance point is wrong.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a Master Provisioner, why do we need new food recipes since the Orsinium quest foods were released? We do we even have other food recipes in the game? I don't mean to be harsh, but ZOS destroyed Provisioning as a craft with the release of Orsinium.
Lots of people still use the other recipe types. Definitely agree that there's an overabundance of requests for the new stuff, though. Makes me think the balance point is wrong.
Any recipes you learn other than the Orzogra's is just stamp collecting. Unless of course they're going to release a whole new line of quest recipes that are better, or fill missing niche's that the Orsinium quest foods missed. Those could be interesting, although they wouldn't fix the basic negation of Provisioning as a whole that those quest recipes accomplished.
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Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭As a Master Provisioner, why do we need new food recipes since the Orsinium quest foods were released? We do we even have other food recipes in the game? I don't mean to be harsh, but ZOS destroyed Provisioning as a craft with the release of Orsinium.
Lots of people still use the other recipe types. Definitely agree that there's an overabundance of requests for the new stuff, though. Makes me think the balance point is wrong.
Any recipes you learn other than the Orzogra's is just stamp collecting. Unless of course they're going to release a whole new line of quest recipes that are better, or fill missing niche's that the Orsinium quest foods missed. Those could be interesting, although they wouldn't fix the basic negation of Provisioning as a whole that those quest recipes accomplished.
Right, because I'm going to make Orzogra's for my VR5 who is currently PvE questing. Very funny
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It depends on what you do, really.
For PvE DPS, you need traditional 2-stat blue foods.
For PvE tanking, you need traditional 3-stat purple foods.
For PvE healing, the health/mag hybrid from Orsinium is viable for some (though not all) builds. Use 2-stat blue foods otherwise.
For PvP, you want either 2/3-stat blue/purple foods, 2/3-stat blue/purple drinks, or maybe one of the new Orsinium hybrids, depending on your build. But with the extra health that you get from Battle Spirit, the max health you get from the hybrid isn't as useful as it would be in PvE, and might not worth the reduction in potency compared to traditional blue or purple drinks.
I'm not really sure there are many contexts in which the golden hybrid Orsinium food makes any sense. A waste of Perfect Roe, IMHO. I've met misguided people who use it simply because they think "golden = best" without realizing how bad it is in most scenarios. Even if it was cheap to make, I still wouldn't use it.
Orzogra recipes have niche applicability, and in many situations are simply inferior and undesirable compared to traditional recipes.Edited by code65536 on February 5, 2016 9:18PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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Pomaikai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh I totally agree that the Gold recipe from Orsinium is a complete joke unless you've got more gold than sense. And seriously, 25 Columbine for 100 hours worth of play, since you're getting 4 of the food for every 1 you make, is quite cost effective. I'll easily run across more than 25 Columbine as I run around zones playing the game before my 100 pieces of food have been exhausted.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh I totally agree that the Gold recipe from Orsinium is a complete joke unless you've got more gold than sense. And seriously, 25 Columbine for 100 hours worth of play, since you're getting 4 of the food for every 1 you make, is quite cost effective. I'll easily run across more than 25 Columbine as I run around zones playing the game before my 100 pieces of food have been exhausted.
No, I mean that gold recipe is a joke regardless of cost because its stats are crap. Even if I had all the gold and Perfect Roe in the world, I wouldn't use it. Its regen is substantially lower than that of a purple drink, and in the few situations I can think of where you do want multi-resource regen, max health is not something that you would care about. I.e., I can't see many situations where you want to use that instead of a purple drink, even if cost was not a factor.
The blue Orzogra is nice for when I'm grinding mobs, but you have to keep in mind that max magicka/stamina increases the potency of your abilities. By using Orzogra instead of a blue max-stat food, you're losing about 5K max magicka or max stamina. That's equivalent to losing around 500 weapon or spell damage. If you're a DPS doing end-game content, you will not want to take that kind of a damage penalty.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As a Master Provisioner, why do we need new food recipes since the Orsinium quest foods were released? We do we even have other food recipes in the game? I don't mean to be harsh, but ZOS destroyed Provisioning as a craft with the release of Orsinium.
Lots of people still use the other recipe types. Definitely agree that there's an overabundance of requests for the new stuff, though. Makes me think the balance point is wrong.
Any recipes you learn other than the Orzogra's is just stamp collecting. Unless of course they're going to release a whole new line of quest recipes that are better, or fill missing niche's that the Orsinium quest foods missed. Those could be interesting, although they wouldn't fix the basic negation of Provisioning as a whole that those quest recipes accomplished.
Not totally sure what you're talking about to be honest. Orzoga's recipes are are health and regen foods. At best, they're comparable with the competing drink recipes. In reality, they are inferior for many, possibly even most builds. Doesn't mean I don't get a lot of requests for them, though. If someone wants a little more regen AND a little more health they're asking me for the bear haunch recipe, mostly.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
Grand High Illustrious Mid-Tier PvP/PvE Bussmunster0 -
acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh I totally agree that the Gold recipe from Orsinium is a complete joke unless you've got more gold than sense. And seriously, 25 Columbine for 100 hours worth of play, since you're getting 4 of the food for every 1 you make, is quite cost effective. I'll easily run across more than 25 Columbine as I run around zones playing the game before my 100 pieces of food have been exhausted.
No, I mean that gold recipe is a joke regardless of cost because its stats are crap. Even if I had all the gold and Perfect Roe in the world, I wouldn't use it. Its regen is substantially lower than that of a purple drink, and in the few situations I can think of where you do want multi-resource regen, max health is not something that you would care about. I.e., I can't see many situations where you want to use that instead of a purple drink, even if cost was not a factor.
The blue Orzogra is nice for when I'm grinding mobs, but you have to keep in mind that max magicka/stamina increases the potency of your abilities. By using Orzogra instead of a blue max-stat food, you're losing about 5K max magicka or max stamina. That's equivalent to losing around 500 weapon or spell damage. If you're a DPS doing end-game content, you will not want to take that kind of a damage penalty.
That gold food is perfect for any PVP drink build war benefit of between 3 and 4 k health.
The cost is the only thing prohibitive it's a wonderful recipe for dram Nightblade or stam sorc or any tank.
The perfect roe isvjustvplain ridiculous thought.
Edited by acw37162 on February 7, 2016 2:52PM0 -
Birdovic✭✭✭✭✭And im still waiting for a Buff food, which gives
-Max Magicka + Magicka Regen
or
- Max Magicka + Max Health + Magicka Regen
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gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭As a Master Provisioner, why do we need new food recipes since the Orsinium quest foods were released? We do we even have other food recipes in the game? I don't mean to be harsh, but ZOS destroyed Provisioning as a craft with the release of Orsinium.
You mean the sever wound in Orsinium with this its pretty much the mortal wound Provision was simple easy nothing to it before ok maybe launch you had the hurdle of the faction ingredients but now its easier to do and get then booty at a Playboy Party0 -
gw2only1b14_ESO✭✭✭Oh I totally agree that the Gold recipe from Orsinium is a complete joke unless you've got more gold than sense. And seriously, 25 Columbine for 100 hours worth of play, since you're getting 4 of the food for every 1 you make, is quite cost effective. I'll easily run across more than 25 Columbine as I run around zones playing the game before my 100 pieces of food have been exhausted.
what about your roe though..0