DragonKnight Buffs in the upcoming DLC

DangerMan · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

danger man might sound funny if not you but does handy hock mean anything to you?

Haha nope, no idea.. It does sound funny.. What am I missing?

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

danger man might sound funny if not you but does handy hock mean anything to you?

Haha nope, no idea.. It does sound funny.. What am I missing?

wasnt sure if you was a german friend from dcuo you would of loled if it was you

Kr3do · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

@Alcast probably best for advice on dks

I think he plays stam sorc, at least for what i remember from his posts

Niaver wrote: »

As a StamDK you don't even use DK's abilities. They are powerful because stamina is powerful, because medium armor is powerful, because 2h is powerful. They can use only two dots.

dk's have great passives

no checkhis youtube bullseye build

Bullseye build is only for PvP. I've talked to Alcast already (about a month back). His PvE build is based on Maelstrom Daggers and DoTs..

Erm whats the problem with that?

DangerMan · January 2016

Kr3do wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

@Alcast probably best for advice on dks

I think he plays stam sorc, at least for what i remember from his posts

Niaver wrote: »

As a StamDK you don't even use DK's abilities. They are powerful because stamina is powerful, because medium armor is powerful, because 2h is powerful. They can use only two dots.

dk's have great passives

no checkhis youtube bullseye build

Bullseye build is only for PvP. I've talked to Alcast already (about a month back). His PvE build is based on Maelstrom Daggers and DoTs..

Erm whats the problem with that?

Without Maelstrom Daggers it won't be effective at all cause all your damage comes from DoTs. And without those Daggers, you lose around 40% of your DoT damage..

Artjuh90 · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

Kr3do wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

@Alcast probably best for advice on dks

I think he plays stam sorc, at least for what i remember from his posts

Niaver wrote: »

As a StamDK you don't even use DK's abilities. They are powerful because stamina is powerful, because medium armor is powerful, because 2h is powerful. They can use only two dots.

dk's have great passives

no checkhis youtube bullseye build

Bullseye build is only for PvP. I've talked to Alcast already (about a month back). His PvE build is based on Maelstrom Daggers and DoTs..

Erm whats the problem with that?

Without Maelstrom Daggers it won't be effective at all cause all your damage comes from DoTs. And without those Daggers, you lose around 40% of your DoT damage..

no you GAIN more DoT damage. if just one items add something the rest doesn't remove any stats

Kr3do · January 2016

To be an effective DK you have use DoTs anyways lol

DangerMan · January 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Kr3do wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

@Alcast probably best for advice on dks

I think he plays stam sorc, at least for what i remember from his posts

Niaver wrote: »

As a StamDK you don't even use DK's abilities. They are powerful because stamina is powerful, because medium armor is powerful, because 2h is powerful. They can use only two dots.

dk's have great passives

no checkhis youtube bullseye build

Bullseye build is only for PvP. I've talked to Alcast already (about a month back). His PvE build is based on Maelstrom Daggers and DoTs..

Erm whats the problem with that?

Without Maelstrom Daggers it won't be effective at all cause all your damage comes from DoTs. And without those Daggers, you lose around 40% of your DoT damage..

no you GAIN more DoT damage. if just one items add something the rest doesn't remove any stats

Not entirely sure what you're trying to say there, but that one item adds 40% additional damage to your DoTs (if used properly after a Flurry)..

So if you don't have that one item (Maelstrom Dagger), that 30k DPS that you see in the recap, will fall to 18k DPS even if you follow the exact same rotation..

DangerMan · January 2016

Kr3do wrote: »

To be an effective DK you have use DoTs anyways lol

Yes, and like I said, I use 4 to 5 DoTs on my bar.. But also like I've said, if you don't have the Maelstrom Dagger, that 30k DPS that you see in the recap, will fall to 18k DPS even if you follow the exact same rotation..

Xantaria · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it. I want to be able to block quickly at any time. Wrecking Blow / Rapid Strikes are both not made for this. If you really want me to I can stream a vMA run for you.

Alucardo · January 2016

Just throwing this out there. Hear me out please..

wtb surprise attack

Stelo · January 2016

I honestly feel like they should prioritize on buffing Templars especially in PvP. When I first started dueling, I used to think that Sorcs and NBs were the strongest class, but after playing a Stam DK for so long while improving as well, I can definitely say that Stam DKs are probably the best at dueling. Maybe NBs are first for 1vX, followed by Sorc and then DK followed by Temp. I honestly think DKs are fine. Y'all need to buff Templars man. SERIOUSLY

DangerMan · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

SarcB · January 2016

A lot of different answers on this thread...
I have a magicka DK v16 but leveling my sorc because the DK just doesn't feel like it has an impact.

Low mobility sucks.

DangerMan · January 2016

Stelo wrote: »

I honestly feel like they should prioritize on buffing Templars especially in PvP. When I first started dueling, I used to think that Sorcs and NBs were the strongest class, but after playing a Stam DK for so long while improving as well, I can definitely say that Stam DKs are probably the best at dueling. Maybe NBs are first for 1vX, followed by Sorc and then DK followed by Temp. I honestly think DKs are fine. Y'all need to buff Templars man. SERIOUSLY

Just because one class is worse off than the other doesn't mean both don't need fixing.. Why can't they buff both?

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Stelo wrote: »

I honestly feel like they should prioritize on buffing Templars especially in PvP. When I first started dueling, I used to think that Sorcs and NBs were the strongest class, but after playing a Stam DK for so long while improving as well, I can definitely say that Stam DKs are probably the best at dueling. Maybe NBs are first for 1vX, followed by Sorc and then DK followed by Temp. I honestly think DKs are fine. Y'all need to buff Templars man. SERIOUSLY

Yet stam dk's are barely dk's there just 2h users.

Magicka dk's are just useless.

Xantaria · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

What I do in vMA anybody can do it. On PC and on Consoles. It's just about knowledge.

DangerMan · January 2016

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

What I do in vMA anybody can do it. On PC and on Consoles. It's just about knowledge.

I'll try it out.. I was waiting and hoping they'd bring in a progress save feature in it so that I can invest some time.. I don't think I'd ever have enough time to complete the whole of VMA in one stretch.. And they log you out after 15 mins :S

phillyproduct · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

This is a lie.

The number one dk. Aproblemor2 is the number one dk on the ps4 server he is in my guild and is a stam dk he has flawless conqueror and only plays stam dk.

He was beating it before the daggers and still uses 2h bow. A few of my guild mates have attempted it on stam dk it's hard but stam vma is hard period

Plz don't spread lies on the forums because you cant complete vma stam no one else can, that's not true

And FYI he was betting it under 300 cps have the screen shot to prove it

DangerMan · January 2016

phillyproduct wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

This is a lie.

The number one dk. Aproblemor2 is the number one dk on the ps4 server he is in my guild and is a stam dk he has flawless conqueror and only plays stam dk.

He was beating it before the daggers and still uses 2h bow. A few of my guild mates have attempted it on stam dk it's hard but stam vma is hard period

Plz don't spread lies on the forums because you cant complete vma stam no one else can, that's not true

And FYI he was betting it under 300 cps have the screen shot to prove it

Either you don't know how to read, or maybe you're just slow. Please re-read my comment and try to understand it before calling me a liar..

Your guildmate completed VMA as a Stam DK? Great job. Now please point out where I said that Stam DKs cannot complete it at all? It's much easier for Magicka guys to get through, and apparently you think that's okay. Please tell me, is your main a Magicka Sorc?

Magicka builds get through it with relative ease. That is not what you call balance..

Here, let's go through my previous comment sentence by sentence so that it's easier for someone like you to understand:

"No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. "

Please tell me how one guy getting through means filling a leaderboard? Or does your leaderboard only consist of one person?

"There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.."

Do you want me to put a screenshot of this? Are you telling me you don't see people with scores of 200 on the DK VMA leaderboard?

"I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. "

Still holds true. Just because one guy, aka your friend, completed it as a Stam DK doesn't mean all others are Stam DKs too. Keywords in my sentence being "I think" and "most".

And again, please learn to read before calling someone a liar.

Vynist · January 2016

Disclaimer: ~SPEAKING ONLY FOR PVP~

Any time I see a stam DK asking for buffs, I just shake my head.

Stam DK's , Stam NB's, and Magicka Sorcs are THE top tier combos.

DangerMan · January 2016

Vynist wrote: »

Disclaimer: ~SPEAKING ONLY FOR PVP~

Any time I see a stam DK asking for buffs, I just shake my head.

Stam DK's , Stam NB's, and Magicka Sorcs are THE top tier combos.

Not concerned with PvP. Though I would still rank Magicka NBs over Stam DKs in that list.

However, my main concern in end game PvE.

Lightninvash · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

phillyproduct wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

This is a lie.

The number one dk. Aproblemor2 is the number one dk on the ps4 server he is in my guild and is a stam dk he has flawless conqueror and only plays stam dk.

He was beating it before the daggers and still uses 2h bow. A few of my guild mates have attempted it on stam dk it's hard but stam vma is hard period

Plz don't spread lies on the forums because you cant complete vma stam no one else can, that's not true

And FYI he was betting it under 300 cps have the screen shot to prove it

Either you don't know how to read, or maybe you're just slow. Please re-read my comment and try to understand it before calling me a liar..

Your guildmate completed VMA as a Stam DK? Great job. Now please point out where I said that Stam DKs cannot complete it at all? It's much easier for Magicka guys to get through, and apparently you think that's okay. Please tell me, is your main a Magicka Sorc?

Magicka builds get through it with relative ease. That is not what you call balance..

Here, let's go through my previous comment sentence by sentence so that it's easier for someone like you to understand:

"No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. "

Please tell me how one guy getting through means filling a leaderboard? Or does your leaderboard only consist of one person?

"There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.."

Do you want me to put a screenshot of this? Are you telling me you don't see people with scores of 200 on the DK VMA leaderboard?

"I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. "

Still holds true. Just because one guy, aka your friend, completed it as a Stam DK doesn't mean all others are Stam DKs too. Keywords in my sentence being "I think" and "most".

And again, please learn to read before calling someone a liar.

VMA was meant to be hard bud. Spamming wb will not help you through it as per your previous statement about using dots and Wb. gna need more than that to get through something like VMA. Just a suggestion not being snarky or anything

DangerMan · January 2016

Lightninvash wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

phillyproduct wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

This is a lie.

The number one dk. Aproblemor2 is the number one dk on the ps4 server he is in my guild and is a stam dk he has flawless conqueror and only plays stam dk.

He was beating it before the daggers and still uses 2h bow. A few of my guild mates have attempted it on stam dk it's hard but stam vma is hard period

Plz don't spread lies on the forums because you cant complete vma stam no one else can, that's not true

And FYI he was betting it under 300 cps have the screen shot to prove it

Either you don't know how to read, or maybe you're just slow. Please re-read my comment and try to understand it before calling me a liar..

Your guildmate completed VMA as a Stam DK? Great job. Now please point out where I said that Stam DKs cannot complete it at all? It's much easier for Magicka guys to get through, and apparently you think that's okay. Please tell me, is your main a Magicka Sorc?

Magicka builds get through it with relative ease. That is not what you call balance..

Here, let's go through my previous comment sentence by sentence so that it's easier for someone like you to understand:

"No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. "

Please tell me how one guy getting through means filling a leaderboard? Or does your leaderboard only consist of one person?

"There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.."

Do you want me to put a screenshot of this? Are you telling me you don't see people with scores of 200 on the DK VMA leaderboard?

"I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. "

Still holds true. Just because one guy, aka your friend, completed it as a Stam DK doesn't mean all others are Stam DKs too. Keywords in my sentence being "I think" and "most".

And again, please learn to read before calling someone a liar.

VMA was meant to be hard bud. Spamming wb will not help you through it as per your previous statement about using dots and Wb. gna need more than that to get through something like VMA. Just a suggestion not being snarky or anything

Yes, I understand it's meant to be hard. Please note that I am NOT asking for it to be nerfed in any way.

But my gripe is with two things:

1. Magicka builds get through VMA with relative ease, especially Sorcs, as compared to Stamina builds. All I'm asking for is balance.. And even as Magicka DKs, it's quite hard compared to other Magicka users (and this can be seen when someone looks at the leaderboards)

2. As a Stam DK, all I have for high DPS is WB, Rending Slashes, or Rapid Strikes (given that I use 2H, with DW or Bow). We have no class skills that can be called a high damage Stamina skill.. And yes, before someone points it out yet again, let me state that I use 4-5 DoTs in conjunction with these skills..

I don't spam WB on adds ofcourse - I know when I need to use what skill. Typically I use WB ONLY for single target boss fights, and Steel tornado for AoEs.. This is not only a VMA problem, it's an end-game PvE problem, including vICP or vWGT (as stated in my initial post). Without having very specific gear (Maelstrom Daggers), we cannot match the DPS of other classes, especially Magicka Sorcs..

However I do understand where you're coming from, but like I said, I'm not asking for VMA to be nerfed in any way, I'm just asking for a balance, and a major step towards it would be by buffing up some DK skills/passives (in addition with Stam sorcs, and templars in general). Otherwise, 90% of Tamriel will just reroll to a Magicka Sorc. I know I'm about to if they don't announce anything good in the upcoming patch notes..

Lightninvash · January 2016

DangerMan wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

phillyproduct wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Well ...

http://imgur.com/bT4U3oh

This is over a month old at this point I believe. By now I can hit 32k+.

My build is different from the build Fear Turbo uses and does considerably more damage.

This can compete quite well with Magicka Sorcs / DKs

Yup, but the problem I'm running into is that I can't get the weapons I need to perfect that build.. There's no way I'll get VMA done on my Stam DK on console.. That's why I have to spam WB or Slashes with my DoTs right now, and that's not very effective :S

Heavy Weave Steel Tornado with Igneous Weapons up and heal yourself with vigor.

I clear vMA always without Maelstrom Weapons. They are not good for it.

No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.. I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. I don't know how hard it is on PC - I've heard key binds make some stuff easier to pull of (like S&B bash cancel)..

This is a lie.

The number one dk. Aproblemor2 is the number one dk on the ps4 server he is in my guild and is a stam dk he has flawless conqueror and only plays stam dk.

He was beating it before the daggers and still uses 2h bow. A few of my guild mates have attempted it on stam dk it's hard but stam vma is hard period

Plz don't spread lies on the forums because you cant complete vma stam no one else can, that's not true

And FYI he was betting it under 300 cps have the screen shot to prove it

Either you don't know how to read, or maybe you're just slow. Please re-read my comment and try to understand it before calling me a liar..

Your guildmate completed VMA as a Stam DK? Great job. Now please point out where I said that Stam DKs cannot complete it at all? It's much easier for Magicka guys to get through, and apparently you think that's okay. Please tell me, is your main a Magicka Sorc?

Magicka builds get through it with relative ease. That is not what you call balance..

Here, let's go through my previous comment sentence by sentence so that it's easier for someone like you to understand:

"No I didn't mean VMA is hard because I don't have the Daggers, I meant it's hard as a Stam DK in general. The DK leaderboards for VMA on PS4 are almost empty.. "

Please tell me how one guy getting through means filling a leaderboard? Or does your leaderboard only consist of one person?

"There's 10-12 players on it with scores of 219 or 200 or so.."

Do you want me to put a screenshot of this? Are you telling me you don't see people with scores of 200 on the DK VMA leaderboard?

"I think most of these guys are Magicka DKs anyways.. "

Still holds true. Just because one guy, aka your friend, completed it as a Stam DK doesn't mean all others are Stam DKs too. Keywords in my sentence being "I think" and "most".

And again, please learn to read before calling someone a liar.

VMA was meant to be hard bud. Spamming wb will not help you through it as per your previous statement about using dots and Wb. gna need more than that to get through something like VMA. Just a suggestion not being snarky or anything

Yes, I understand it's meant to be hard. Please note that I am NOT asking for it to be nerfed in any way.

But my gripe is with two things:

1. Magicka builds get through VMA with relative ease, especially Sorcs, as compared to Stamina builds. All I'm asking for is balance.. And even as Magicka DKs, it's quite hard compared to other Magicka users (and this can be seen when someone looks at the leaderboards)

2. As a Stam DK, all I have for high DPS is WB, Rending Slashes, or Rapid Strikes (given that I use 2H, with DW or Bow). We have no class skills that can be called a high damage Stamina skill.. And yes, before someone points it out yet again, let me state that I use 4-5 DoTs in conjunction with these skills..

I don't spam WB on adds ofcourse - I know when I need to use what skill. Typically I use WB ONLY for single target boss fights, and Steel tornado for AoEs.. This is not only a VMA problem, it's an end-game PvE problem, including vICP or vWGT (as stated in my initial post).

But I do understand where you're coming from, but like I said, I'm not asking for VMA to be nerfed in any way, I'm just asking for a balance..

Yes I agree there is a balance issue with stam vs magicka users. I find a lot is harder with stamina users vs magicka users though. Like my Templar has low damage but generally I am pretty good at staying alive through anything and sustain like a champ( only like 561 or something magicka recovery

) but it takes me like 5x longer than someone else because my damage is so low. What I find on my stamina chars is that it seems much harder to a. stay alive and b. keep my stamina up even with the weaving of heavy attacks in my rotations. so with that I can definitely agree with you.

Kr3do · January 2016

Im to 99% sure its easier to complete vMSA with a Stam Dk than with a Magicka DK

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2016

It won't be a buff, it will be a nerf disguised as a buff. That is how ZOS "buffs" things. Remember when Templars got "buffed" and ZOS removed blinding flashes which was the best tanking ability in the game?

I am very afraid for Igneous shield. It might get "buffed" by making it based off magicka instead of heath just to please a few Magicka DKs that want to relive their old OP glory days and pretend they are sorcs.

ZOS has a history of screwing over tanks so changing Igneous to scale off Magicka instead of health would be a great way to buff Magicka DKs and screw tanks.

DangerMan · January 2016

Kr3do wrote: »

Im to 99% sure its easier to complete vMSA with a Stam Dk than with a Magicka DK

Almost all of the VMA runs done by Youtubers have been on their Magicka DKs.. I've been trying to learn tactics to run it on my Stam guy, but have only found one run on a Stam DK up till now..

Zinaroth · January 2016

Kr3do wrote: »

Im to 99% sure its easier to complete vMSA with a Stam Dk than with a Magicka DK

I will raise you with a Healing Ward. Your move?

daswahnsinn · January 2016

Purdomination33 wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

As a Stam DK, I'm tired of not being able to properly participate in solo end-game content (VMA), or needing a carry DPS to get through vWGT and vICP.. My stats are above average I'd like to think (4300 weapon damage, 38k Stamina, 20k Health, 65% Crit) and I can hold my own, but it sucks when a Sorc can just pull out overload and do more DPS than you even though you're using 4 or 5 DoTs, and spamming skills with it..

Would you mind sharing your basic set up? That is some damn good DPS. Sounds like you use dual wield and 2H. Do you get the DPS from dual wield?

Regarding StamDK as the best 1v1 class...I would learn how people manage the balance. Granted I am mediocre at best but slowly improving 1v1 skills. It feels like as a DK I cannot go all out DPS, thus sacrificing HP, and hope to match a NB or Sorc. Where I get held up is inflicting enough damage to kill but balancing that with enough HP to withstand instaburst damage. The HP is needed as DK's lack any mobility. Too often I need to hit a guy 1 more time but run out of Stamina. Or I get Spambushed and cannot use my ultimate due to the weird 'cannot use a skill after getting hit for some reason'.

Always love hearing about how others run their Stam DK. Wish we had 1 more skill slot! 2H is not a real reliable main DPS for me. The skills take a while to pull off and the heavy/light attack is very awkward. So I use 2H/S&B, both bars hybrid between buff and DPS.

My current build for stam DK is simple: 3 agility, 3 sentry, 3 Ashen, 2/3 Night Mother Gaze. Depending on boss or PvP you can have around 4400 wd(w/ DW only).

sneakymitchell · January 2016

Anhedonie wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

If Stam Dks get another buff I might cry. And as for no class abilities? Start using igneous weapons.

Where is a dk on this picture? This could be anybody.

OOOOOOHHHHHH SNNNAAAAAPPP. That's true a nightblade could have done that with me. It happened not to long with that heavy attack damage almost close maybe.