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DragonKnight Buffs in the upcoming DLC

  • Iove
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    Templars have the worst damage, let's buff DKs.
  • Lightninvash
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.

    Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff :)

    If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.

    If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.

    None of my other characters can drop a huge damage physical Ult to a group of people and CC them. That can almost wipe small groups alone.

    My stam Dk out performs my stam Sorc even though they both use 2h as primary dps.

    Yes, Stam DKs are one of the strongest Stam users in PvP - they mostly just lack mobility (lack of an escape skill). And you could argue they can't use any skills from their trees for high burst DPS (most use 2H skills or S&B)

    But my problem is with end-game PvE :(

    see the thing is if you go dps you need aoe dps so I run 2h/bow another good one is 2h/dw dw has great aoefor the dps you need and ofc more dmg cus 2 weps. and 2h has very good 1 target abilities and ofc rally. idk what you use but I recommend bow or dw with 2h unless you tank then go s&b
    Edited by Lightninvash on January 29, 2016 4:44PM
  • Meshal
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    your actually wrong, Stamina dk is one of the best dds in the game right now.
    Edited by Meshal on January 29, 2016 4:42PM
  • DangerMan
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.

    Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff :)

    If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.

    If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.

    None of my other characters can drop a huge damage physical Ult to a group of people and CC them. That can almost wipe small groups alone.

    My stam Dk out performs my stam Sorc even though they both use 2h as primary dps.

    Yes, Stam DKs are one of the strongest Stam users in PvP - they mostly just lack mobility (lack of an escape skill). And you could argue they can't use any skills from their trees for high burst DPS (most use 2H skills or S&B)

    But my problem is with end-game PvE :(

    see the thing is if you go dps you need aoe dps so I run 2h/bow another good one is 2h/dw dw has great aoefor the dps you need and ofc more dmg cus 2 weps. and 2h has very good 1 target abilities and ofc rally. idk what you use but I recommend bow or dw with 2h unless you tank then go s&b

    Mentioned in a previous comment too, I use 2H as my main, and DW or Bow for DoTs and AoEs, depending upon the boss fight..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Anhedonie
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    Templars have the worst damage, let's buff DKs.

    Why not both?
    Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.
  • Lightninvash
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.

    Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff :)

    If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.

    If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.

    None of my other characters can drop a huge damage physical Ult to a group of people and CC them. That can almost wipe small groups alone.

    My stam Dk out performs my stam Sorc even though they both use 2h as primary dps.

    Yes, Stam DKs are one of the strongest Stam users in PvP - they mostly just lack mobility (lack of an escape skill). And you could argue they can't use any skills from their trees for high burst DPS (most use 2H skills or S&B)

    But my problem is with end-game PvE :(

    see the thing is if you go dps you need aoe dps so I run 2h/bow another good one is 2h/dw dw has great aoefor the dps you need and ofc more dmg cus 2 weps. and 2h has very good 1 target abilities and ofc rally. idk what you use but I recommend bow or dw with 2h unless you tank then go s&b

    Mentioned in a previous comment too, I use 2H as my main, and DW or Bow for DoTs and AoEs, depending upon the boss fight..

    I feel as if Dot are just ok as far as damage goes. It could come down to just the skill setup you run with or the timing. Do you animation cancel?
  • DangerMan
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    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Templars have the worst damage, let's buff DKs.

    Why not both?

    Exactly what I was going to say. Just because one class is worse off than the other doesn't mean both can't be fixed..

    And I see tonnes of thread asking for a nerf to NBs. I feel that instead of nerfing classes, weaker ones should be buffed to level the playing field..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Anhedonie
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Templars have the worst damage, let's buff DKs.

    Why not both?

    Exactly what I was going to say. Just because one class is worse off than the other doesn't mean both can't be fixed..

    And I see tonnes of thread asking for a nerf to NBs. I feel that instead of nerfing classes, weaker ones should be buffed to level the playing field..

    It's true for 2.2.10 patch. Nightblade is perfectly balanced and other classes could use the same treatment as well.
    At least I don't really see any point in nerfing NBs right now.
    But magDK, stamSorc and healbot really need buffs.
    Edited by Anhedonie on January 29, 2016 4:50PM
    Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.
  • Iove
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Anhedonie wrote: »
    Templars have the worst damage, let's buff DKs.

    Why not both?

    Exactly what I was going to say. Just because one class is worse off than the other doesn't mean both can't be fixed..

    And I see tonnes of thread asking for a nerf to NBs. I feel that instead of nerfing classes, weaker ones should be buffed to level the playing field..

    Why not both? Good question. Let's ask the Devs.
  • DangerMan
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.

    Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff :)

    If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.

    If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.

    None of my other characters can drop a huge damage physical Ult to a group of people and CC them. That can almost wipe small groups alone.

    My stam Dk out performs my stam Sorc even though they both use 2h as primary dps.

    Yes, Stam DKs are one of the strongest Stam users in PvP - they mostly just lack mobility (lack of an escape skill). And you could argue they can't use any skills from their trees for high burst DPS (most use 2H skills or S&B)

    But my problem is with end-game PvE :(

    see the thing is if you go dps you need aoe dps so I run 2h/bow another good one is 2h/dw dw has great aoefor the dps you need and ofc more dmg cus 2 weps. and 2h has very good 1 target abilities and ofc rally. idk what you use but I recommend bow or dw with 2h unless you tank then go s&b

    Mentioned in a previous comment too, I use 2H as my main, and DW or Bow for DoTs and AoEs, depending upon the boss fight..

    I feel as if Dot are just ok as far as damage goes. It could come down to just the skill setup you run with or the timing. Do you animation cancel?

    Yes, I do animation cancelling with heavy attacks. And I feel as a Stam DK, DoTs are necessary to get your DPS up - you can't just stand there spamming WB or Rapid Strikes with heavy attack cancellation.. I mean it'll be fine in regular old dungeons, but not in vWGT or vICP (esp Ibomez)..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Zinaroth
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Stam DKs are possibly the best Stam class, I agree, but stam classes in general are pretty bad. And on console the DK leaderboards are pretty much empty. There's people on it with scores 200 or so (I'm assuming they're mostly Magicka DKs too).

    Is the stam DK in your guild using Maelstrom Daggers? That's the only way I've seen anyone pull more than 25k DPS.. If not, could you tell me what his rotation looks like?

    I couldn't but you can ask him yourself, his name is @Xantaria, don't know if he's willing to share but he is pretty knowledgeable.
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.

    Congratulations! You completely managed to take my comment out of the context of this thread and interpretate it as a QQ post. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul...
    KramUzibra wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.

    I completely agree! I have a stam dk and I don't hit as hard as my sister who is a stam nightblade. When she is in stealth with a bow or wb after buffing up she one shots players with ease. DKs are most definitely not the master stam race.

    I never *** said they were. They excel in some areas, stamblades in others. But they still leave stam sorcs and stam templars in the dust.
    Edited by Zinaroth on January 29, 2016 4:53PM
  • DangerMan
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    Meshal wrote: »
    your actually wrong, Stamina dk is one of the best dds in the game right now.

    Do you have any numbers to back that up? Only way I can see that happening is if the DK uses DoTs with Maelstrom Daggers. And even then, I think a Magicka Sorc can out-DPS them..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Cinbri
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    Sadly zos confirmed - no news about pvp till pts patchnotes.
  • DangerMan
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    Zinaroth wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Stam DKs are possibly the best Stam class, I agree, but stam classes in general are pretty bad. And on console the DK leaderboards are pretty much empty. There's people on it with scores 200 or so (I'm assuming they're mostly Magicka DKs too).

    Is the stam DK in your guild using Maelstrom Daggers? That's the only way I've seen anyone pull more than 25k DPS.. If not, could you tell me what his rotation looks like?

    I couldn't but you can ask him yourself, his name is @Xantaria, don't know if he's willing to share but he is pretty knowledgeable.

    Ah okay, yes I've seen his DPS chart that he posted a little while back.. It had like 22k DPS, but it mainly used a lot of DoTs. So I'm pretty sure he was using DW with Maelstrom Daggers. I've been wanting to make a DoT build of my own since ages but I can't because I can't do VMA on my stupid Stam DK to get the Daggers.. :S

    EDIT: Also, I don't know what his max DPS has been on this build. But I've seen Magicka Sorcs pull 30k+ DPS.. I can't wait for damage charts on console so that I know what DPS I'm doing right now.. I might be pretty well off already and not know it lol :)
    Edited by DangerMan on January 29, 2016 5:02PM
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Brrrofski
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    KramUzibra wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.

    I completely agree! I have a stam dk and I don't hit as hard as my sister who is a stam nightblade. When she is in stealth with a bow or wb after buffing up she one shots players with ease. DKs are most definitely not the master stam race.

    But I guarantee you have a lot more survivability than your sister.

    Even in medium armor DKs can still fight off a few people for a while.
  • Wollust
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    People complaining about stam dk even though it's fotm in pvp and incredibly good in pve.. Sure go ahead.
    Magicka DK needs love (pvpwise), stamina is doing more than fine.
    Susano'o

    Zerg Squad
  • Lightninvash
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.

    Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff :)

    If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.

    If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.

    None of my other characters can drop a huge damage physical Ult to a group of people and CC them. That can almost wipe small groups alone.

    My stam Dk out performs my stam Sorc even though they both use 2h as primary dps.

    Yes, Stam DKs are one of the strongest Stam users in PvP - they mostly just lack mobility (lack of an escape skill). And you could argue they can't use any skills from their trees for high burst DPS (most use 2H skills or S&B)

    But my problem is with end-game PvE :(

    see the thing is if you go dps you need aoe dps so I run 2h/bow another good one is 2h/dw dw has great aoefor the dps you need and ofc more dmg cus 2 weps. and 2h has very good 1 target abilities and ofc rally. idk what you use but I recommend bow or dw with 2h unless you tank then go s&b

    Mentioned in a previous comment too, I use 2H as my main, and DW or Bow for DoTs and AoEs, depending upon the boss fight..

    I feel as if Dot are just ok as far as damage goes. It could come down to just the skill setup you run with or the timing. Do you animation cancel?

    Yes, I do animation cancelling with heavy attacks. And I feel as a Stam DK, DoTs are necessary to get your DPS up - you can't just stand there spamming WB or Rapid Strikes with heavy attack cancellation.. I mean it'll be fine in regular old dungeons, but not in vWGT or vICP (esp Ibomez)..

    its all on weaving light attacks and heavy attacks as well as the aoes it takes some skill to do not gna lie its easier for me beinga Templar and having rune focus for my magicka regen and repentance for stamina regen on dead enemies. which I tend to use magicka attacks woven in with my stam attacks on dk and with the heavy in between those vs my harder hitting stam attacks canceling with light attacks. hope any of this helps :#
  • Zinaroth
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Stam DKs are possibly the best Stam class, I agree, but stam classes in general are pretty bad. And on console the DK leaderboards are pretty much empty. There's people on it with scores 200 or so (I'm assuming they're mostly Magicka DKs too).

    Is the stam DK in your guild using Maelstrom Daggers? That's the only way I've seen anyone pull more than 25k DPS.. If not, could you tell me what his rotation looks like?

    I couldn't but you can ask him yourself, his name is @Xantaria, don't know if he's willing to share but he is pretty knowledgeable.

    Ah okay, yes I've seen his DPS chart that he posted a little while back.. It had like 22k DPS, but it mainly used a lot of DoTs. So I'm pretty sure he was using DW with Maelstrom Daggers. I've been wanting to make a DoT build of my own since ages but I can't because I can't do VMA on my stupid Stam DK to get the Daggers.. :S

    EDIT: Also, I don't know what his max DPS has been on this build. But I've seen Magicka Sorcs pull 30k+ DPS.. I can't wait for damage charts on console so that I know what DPS I'm doing right now.. I might be pretty well off already and not know it lol :)

    I am not part of the group currently pushing times in trials but I can only relay what I have heard and that is that his damage is up there with the Overload sorcs so maybe he improved since you saw it. You could try PMing him here on forums. :)
  • DangerMan
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    Wollust wrote: »
    People complaining about stam dk even though it's fotm in pvp and incredibly good in pve.. Sure go ahead.
    Magicka DK needs love (pvpwise), stamina is doing more than fine.

    How is DK FotM? My DK quest takes ages to fill - it's all about NBs now in PvP. It used to be great, but not anymore after they got nerfed hard.

    As for PvE, I've seen Magicka Sorcs do so much damage more DPS than DKs. Pretty much most Magicka guys can do more DPS than any Stam toons (Stam DKs are best though in Stam)..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • leepalmer95
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    Stam dk's are barely dk.

    There more just 2h users with wings and dots only useful in pve.



    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • DangerMan
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    Zinaroth wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Stam DKs are possibly the best Stam class, I agree, but stam classes in general are pretty bad. And on console the DK leaderboards are pretty much empty. There's people on it with scores 200 or so (I'm assuming they're mostly Magicka DKs too).

    Is the stam DK in your guild using Maelstrom Daggers? That's the only way I've seen anyone pull more than 25k DPS.. If not, could you tell me what his rotation looks like?

    I couldn't but you can ask him yourself, his name is @Xantaria, don't know if he's willing to share but he is pretty knowledgeable.

    Ah okay, yes I've seen his DPS chart that he posted a little while back.. It had like 22k DPS, but it mainly used a lot of DoTs. So I'm pretty sure he was using DW with Maelstrom Daggers. I've been wanting to make a DoT build of my own since ages but I can't because I can't do VMA on my stupid Stam DK to get the Daggers.. :S

    EDIT: Also, I don't know what his max DPS has been on this build. But I've seen Magicka Sorcs pull 30k+ DPS.. I can't wait for damage charts on console so that I know what DPS I'm doing right now.. I might be pretty well off already and not know it lol :)

    I am not part of the group currently pushing times in trials but I can only relay what I have heard and that is that his damage is up there with the Overload sorcs so maybe he improved since you saw it. You could try PMing him here on forums. :)

    I can't send him a PM apparently (maybe cause I'm new to the forums), but I wrote a message on his activity wall or whatever it is..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Lightninvash
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    DangerMan wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Stam DKs are possibly the best Stam class, I agree, but stam classes in general are pretty bad. And on console the DK leaderboards are pretty much empty. There's people on it with scores 200 or so (I'm assuming they're mostly Magicka DKs too).

    Is the stam DK in your guild using Maelstrom Daggers? That's the only way I've seen anyone pull more than 25k DPS.. If not, could you tell me what his rotation looks like?

    I couldn't but you can ask him yourself, his name is @Xantaria, don't know if he's willing to share but he is pretty knowledgeable.

    Ah okay, yes I've seen his DPS chart that he posted a little while back.. It had like 22k DPS, but it mainly used a lot of DoTs. So I'm pretty sure he was using DW with Maelstrom Daggers. I've been wanting to make a DoT build of my own since ages but I can't because I can't do VMA on my stupid Stam DK to get the Daggers.. :S

    EDIT: Also, I don't know what his max DPS has been on this build. But I've seen Magicka Sorcs pull 30k+ DPS.. I can't wait for damage charts on console so that I know what DPS I'm doing right now.. I might be pretty well off already and not know it lol :)

    I am not part of the group currently pushing times in trials but I can only relay what I have heard and that is that his damage is up there with the Overload sorcs so maybe he improved since you saw it. You could try PMing him here on forums. :)

    I can't send him a PM apparently (maybe cause I'm new to the forums), but I wrote a message on his activity wall or whatever it is..

    or even try lefty_lucy because lefty makes some amazing builds and seems very knowledgeable about these things
  • Wollust
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    People complaining about stam dk even though it's fotm in pvp and incredibly good in pve.. Sure go ahead.
    Magicka DK needs love (pvpwise), stamina is doing more than fine.

    How is DK FotM? My DK quest takes ages to fill - it's all about NBs now in PvP. It used to be great, but not anymore after they got nerfed hard.

    As for PvE, I've seen Magicka Sorcs do so much damage more DPS than DKs. Pretty much most Magicka guys can do more DPS than any Stam toons (Stam DKs are best though in Stam)..

    StamDK is hands down the strongest 1v1 class currently and is doing extremely well in open world. However, NB is much easier to play well and has an escape, which is why it's being played more.

    As for PvE, yes sorcs have the highest DPS, if the fight is short enough. Sustained DPS is something completely different, and stam (as well as mag) DK are the strongest there. And sustained DPS is going to be more important witht the upcoming trial, as it will be balanced around the current powerlevel (hopefully).
    However, stamDK does require maelstrom dualwield for the high single target DPS.
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  • templesus
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    If Stam Dks get another buff I might cry. And as for no class abilities? Start using igneous weapons.T9yH7Kh.jpg
  • Artjuh90
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    KramUzibra wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.

    I completely agree! I have a stam dk and I don't hit as hard as my sister who is a stam nightblade. When she is in stealth with a bow or wb after buffing up she one shots players with ease. DKs are most definitely not the master stam race.

    last i check a dk using molten armaments + camo hunter hits liek a truck in stealth. except vs those 7/7 light armor sorc who you will hit less then a 7/7 heavy armor without shields
  • DangerMan
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    templesus wrote: »
    If Stam Dks get another buff I might cry. And as for no class abilities? Start using igneous weapons.T9yH7Kh.jpg

    Wait what? One heavy attack (yes, I use molten armaments) and you think they're over powered? And that too when you're low on health. It's not that damaging if the other guy is not on low health already..

    You're missing the real problem here - the fact that most of us are forced to use weapon skills (as proven by your screenshot) rather than class skills!

    Also, my problem is PvE, not PvP..
    Edited by DangerMan on January 29, 2016 5:50PM
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • olsborg
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    stamdk doesnt need a buff, but magicka dk does, thats a tricky problem to solve.

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  • Lightninvash
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    DangerMan wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    If Stam Dks get another buff I might cry. And as for no class abilities? Start using igneous weapons.T9yH7Kh.jpg

    Wait what? One heavy attack (yes, I use molten armaments) and you think they're over powered? You're missing the real problem here - the fact that most of us are forced to use weapon skills (as proven by your screenshot) rather than class skills!

    I would agree here the Dk has very few stam based class skills(as far as I can see.) I believe every class skill should have both stam morph and magicka morph( for the most part) and keep the weapon abilities the same stam based or magicka based. This will add much more diversity to the skill combinations.
  • DangerMan
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    KramUzibra wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.

    Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.

    I completely agree! I have a stam dk and I don't hit as hard as my sister who is a stam nightblade. When she is in stealth with a bow or wb after buffing up she one shots players with ease. DKs are most definitely not the master stam race.

    last i check a dk using molten armaments + camo hunter hits liek a truck in stealth. except vs those 7/7 light armor sorc who you will hit less then a 7/7 heavy armor without shields

    It's good in PvP only when you're in stealth.. If you get stuck out, you have no escape skills whatsoever.. Plus it's not that damaging if the other guy is not on low health already..

    Also, my problem is PvE related, not PvP..
    Flawless MagSorc DPS
    StamDK DPS
    MagTemp DPS
    StamSorc DPS
    MagDK DPS
    DK Tank
    MagNB PvP
    StamNB PvP

  • Anhedonie
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    templesus wrote: »
    If Stam Dks get another buff I might cry. And as for no class abilities? Start using igneous weapons.T9yH7Kh.jpg

    Where is a dk on this picture? This could be anybody.
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