Ghost-Shot wrote: »Magicka DK master race!
Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »Magicka DK master race!
Magicka DK hits like a wet noodle in PvP (even though I've stopped doing PvP on my DK now). I used to be Magicka DK with 4k+ Spell Damage, but still couldn't do anything properly in PvP, even 1v1s..
Plus as Stam I feel I'm doing more damage is PvE also. Magicka DKs only have Molten Whip as their spammable skill with their DoTs. As a Stam DK I can still use my my DoTs, but use Rending Slashes, Rapid Strikes, or even Wrecking Blow as my spammable.
I don't have the numbers since I'm on console, but from what I can see, it feels like I do more damage as a Stam DK..
Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
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MarrazzMist wrote: »My main is stam dk, any puff would be great! Faster generation? Stamina heal?
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Exactly! I have to use 2H(WB) or DW(Slashes, Strikes) as my spammable skill. There's nothing I can use from the DK trees besides DoTs. Even the heals(GDB) suck now and I have to use Vigor..
They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.
Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff
As a Stam DK, I'm tired of not being able to properly participate in solo end-game content (VMA), or needing a carry DPS to get through vWGT and vICP.. My stats are above average I'd like to think (4300 weapon damage, 38k Stamina, 20k Health, 65% Crit) and I can hold my own, but it sucks when a Sorc can just pull out overload and do more DPS than you even though you're using 4 or 5 DoTs, and spamming skills with it..
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Exactly! I have to use 2H(WB) or DW(Slashes, Strikes) as my spammable skill. There's nothing I can use from the DK trees besides DoTs. Even the heals(GDB) suck now and I have to use Vigor..
And whats the problem with that?
They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.
Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff
If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.
If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Exactly! I have to use 2H(WB) or DW(Slashes, Strikes) as my spammable skill. There's nothing I can use from the DK trees besides DoTs. Even the heals(GDB) suck now and I have to use Vigor..
And whats the problem with that?
The problem is that no matter what we do, we can't match the DPS of the Magicka classes in PvE, especially a Sorc. Stam DKs barely pass 25k DPS, and even for that they need Maelstrom Daggers.. Like I said, they can't properly participate in solo end-game content (VMA), or need a carry DPS to get through vWGT and vICP..
MarrazzMist wrote: »My main is stam dk, any puff would be great! Faster generation? Stamina heal?
Just use Vigor lol
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Exactly! I have to use 2H(WB) or DW(Slashes, Strikes) as my spammable skill. There's nothing I can use from the DK trees besides DoTs. Even the heals(GDB) suck now and I have to use Vigor..
And whats the problem with that?
The problem is that no matter what we do, we can't match the DPS of the Magicka classes in PvE, especially a Sorc. Stam DKs barely pass 25k DPS, and even for that they need Maelstrom Daggers.. Like I said, they can't properly participate in solo end-game content (VMA), or need a carry DPS to get through vWGT and vICP..
You dont need a carry DPS to get through vWGT or vICP i did both with 2 Stamina Templars or 1 Stamina Templar and 1 Stamina DK without any problems.
KramUzibra wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
I completely agree! I have a stam dk and I don't hit as hard as my sister who is a stam nightblade. When she is in stealth with a bow or wb after buffing up she one shots players with ease. DKs are most definitely not the master stam race.
Purdomination33 wrote: »
As a Stam DK, I'm tired of not being able to properly participate in solo end-game content (VMA), or needing a carry DPS to get through vWGT and vICP.. My stats are above average I'd like to think (4300 weapon damage, 38k Stamina, 20k Health, 65% Crit) and I can hold my own, but it sucks when a Sorc can just pull out overload and do more DPS than you even though you're using 4 or 5 DoTs, and spamming skills with it..
Would you mind sharing your basic set up? That is some damn good DPS. Sounds like you use dual wield and 2H. Do you get the DPS from dual wield?
Regarding StamDK as the best 1v1 class...I would learn how people manage the balance. Granted I am mediocre at best but slowly improving 1v1 skills. It feels like as a DK I cannot go all out DPS, thus sacrificing HP, and hope to match a NB or Sorc. Where I get held up is inflicting enough damage to kill but balancing that with enough HP to withstand instaburst damage. The HP is needed as DK's lack any mobility. Too often I need to hit a guy 1 more time but run out of Stamina. Or I get Spambushed and cannot use my ultimate due to the weird 'cannot use a skill after getting hit for some reason'.
Always love hearing about how others run their Stam DK. Wish we had 1 more skill slot! 2H is not a real reliable main DPS for me. The skills take a while to pull off and the heavy/light attack is very awkward. So I use 2H/S&B, both bars hybrid between buff and DPS.
Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
Enough about stamina dragon knights and stamina build already it is not the class that stamina builds are based off it is the weapon mostly likely a 2H and medium armor not the class. So want something to blame by getting killed by stamina blame the wrecking blow spam and medium armor not the class. There is only 2 stamina morphs for DKs and few passives that help with DPS in DKs passives and that's just to boost the fire DOTs.
Exactly! I have to use 2H(WB) or DW(Slashes, Strikes) as my spammable skill. There's nothing I can use from the DK trees besides DoTs. Even the heals(GDB) suck now and I have to use Vigor..
And whats the problem with that?
The problem is that no matter what we do, we can't match the DPS of the Magicka classes in PvE, especially a Sorc. Stam DKs barely pass 25k DPS, and even for that they need Maelstrom Daggers.. Like I said, they can't properly participate in solo end-game content (VMA), or need a carry DPS to get through vWGT and vICP..
You dont need a carry DPS to get through vWGT or vICP i did both with 2 Stamina Templars or 1 Stamina Templar and 1 Stamina DK without any problems.
What skill rotation did you use on yout Stam DK?
Stamina DKs currently pull off the best DPS numbers of all stamina builds, and are the second most effective stamina build for clearing vMA (second to stamblades). They also currently hold the best 1v1 build and are really good at 1vX. The stamina DK in our guild is competing with magicka sorcs on the DPS meter in trials.
They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.
Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff
If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.
If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.
They need to be careful what they do with DKs. While magica may beef a buff, stam DKs are insanely strong as it is already.
Of course, my stam Dk wouldn't turn down a buff
If you're talking about PvP, Stam DKs are not strong - it's 2H (Crit Rush, WB) and Medium Armor Passive that are strong. Most Stam DKs only use Leap or CCs in PvP from their skill trees.
If you're talking about PvE, Stam DKs can barely compete in end-game stuff.
None of my other characters can drop a huge damage physical Ult to a group of people and CC them. That can almost wipe small groups alone.
My stam Dk out performs my stam Sorc even though they both use 2h as primary dps.