Where's a third option? I think some things SHOULD be BoP because yes we need something to show off with and something to work for(other than ingame gold because well...that's just boring). Like vMSA weapons, Master weapons, some rare dungeon sets. However I think that

1)plenty of sets (especially in the last DLC) are BoP for no reason at all. Trinimac, Briarheart, Pariah, Permafrost, Winterborn etc should all be BoE just like Footman/Healer/etc are, it's just a good thing for game's economy and less frustration for players

2)RNG in this game SUCKS. If it cannot be rewritten(and I guess judging by our experience with ZOS so far, that could very well make it worse), then I think a token system of sorts should be implemented. A vendor selling monster helms is basically them admitting RNG is borked and they're not opposed to other ways of people getting those things, however it's just a bandaid and it's not fixing the issue for sets like SpellPower Cure etc(are we going to add a separate vendor for every dungeon's rare sets now? I should hope not). Introduce tokens. In a way they'd function like the trophies currently dropping in WGT/ICP but you'd get to choose your reward. Set guaranteed number of BoP tokens a run and if RNG gods don't favor you after <xxxxx> runs you are still GUARANTEED to be able to recieve the gear you desire so badly. It wouldn't discourage players from farming because the number of tokens needed could be set rather high so the number of runs needed could well surpass the number of runs people with better RNG have done in order to successfully obtain their gear. It would in fact ENCOURAGE players because they'll know that even if RNG gods hate them this run makes them 1% closer to getting what they want. With the current system you literally have a chance to NEVER get what you want, which is just frustrating. I've acquired at least 4 divines/infused SpellPowerCure chests by now(not counting other traits) but I have yet to see sash/legs/shoulders/head in ANY trait, and trust me that's not for the lack of trying.

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Hell no. Some people cannot even complete the prison or WGT yet. Why should they be able to buy all the gear they suck to much at to earn? It'd make a nice profit sure but somethings shouldn't be tradable at all. Every group would be running around with SPC sets and the like and nothing would be a challenge.

But what about people who can do WGT/ICP but cant get the sets because of rng?
I did over 100 runs I guess, and I started before they were nerfed. My teammates are getting spell power cure pieces every 2 runs or so, and I dont have it yet.
Besides, this game's market is not in a very healthy condition. There should be valuable items to buy/sell.
To prevent those who didnt finish the dungeons but wants to buy the sets, some of the sets and maelstorm weapons might be achievement-locked (i.e. can only be equipped if you have an achievement).

I'm completely OK with what tends to be an binding to my account.
I wouldn't want to play on a server based game where everyone can freely throw around anything.

If binding was removed, then I'd like items to have a durability that after each repair, the quality of the item deteriorates over time.

Thats just me.

BoP coupled with RNG sucks.

I've farmed vWGT more times than I can count. I've farmed it so many times that I've gotten five Spell Power Cure chestpieces with infused/divines traits and fourteen Kena helms. Yet I've gotten zero Spell Power Cure shoes with perfect traits (three with non-optimal traits), and zero Spell Power Cure epaulets (of any trait; not that I want them, because I'm using 2p Undaunted, but it's the principle of the matter).

If I could trade some of those excess robes for the perfect shoes, then I'd have my perfect 5 divines SPC set, but nope, it's all BoP. Hmpf.

Tradeable only with group inside the dungeon/raid. For a limited time.

Otherwise leave BoP.

The reason games have items that BoE is so that items retain value. If everyone could resell everything they no longer needed to other players, you would soon have a huge amount of items in game with no value. If you want items to not BoE, then you need a system where items "wear out", so they are removed from the economy. I used to play an MMO that did not have BoE - and the economy was a disaster.

BoP/No Drop is another thing. It prevents people from acquiring items they didn't earn, and also stops players from "corning the market" on sort after items. I do believe BoP should be a rare tag, for some quested and/or very special items.

Both systems are "nature of the beast" when it comes to MMOs.

Making sets BoE would promote gold farming.

Gold farming is most effective as a single player activity.

This is an MMO.

allow master crafters to unbind items.