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Shadow and Warrior same bonus ?

Julianos
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I've been leveling my khajiit nb today i was using warrior mundus then i switched to the shadow mundus due to my high critical chance but i noticed my crit damage still same. I was critting with ambush for 24k with warrior buff and switched to shadow and my ambush stil crits for 24k so its a bug or just both buff's bonus equal to the same damage ?
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    I believe one affects the damage done through crits, while the other increases your chances to land a crit.

    EDIT: Got that wrong. Was thinking of the thief. Warrior only increases weapon damagr. Shadow increases crit damage. Derp.
    Edited by ProfessorKittyhawk on January 26, 2016 6:31AM
  • Julianos
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    I believe one affects the damage done through crits, while the other increases your chances to land a crit.

    no warrior increases your weapon damage and shadow increases your crit damage

    what i say is my crit damage output is same with both.
  • RoyJade
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    The Warrior boost your damage weapon. The more damage weapon you have, the less damage the Warrior give you (it's additive).
    The Shadow give you a bonus on critical damage. The more overall damage you do, the more damage it give. It's a multiplicative bonus.

    You perhaps are at the point where the two stone give you exactly the same amount of damage on critical hit. With a little more overall damage, Shadow will be better, but actually Warrior should be the best stone because it boost your non-critical damage as well.
  • Kammakazi
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    RoyJade wrote: »
    The Warrior boost your damage weapon. The more damage weapon you have, the less damage the Warrior give you (it's additive).
    The Shadow give you a bonus on critical damage. The more overall damage you do, the more damage it give. It's a multiplicative bonus.

    You perhaps are at the point where the two stone give you exactly the same amount of damage on critical hit. With a little more overall damage, Shadow will be better, but actually Warrior should be the best stone because it boost your non-critical damage as well.

    The Shadow is additive though..

    50% Base Crit Damage + Shadow (12%) + Elfborn/Precise Strikes (Also additive)
  • DeanTheCat
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    RoyJade wrote: »
    The Warrior boost your damage weapon. The more damage weapon you have, the less damage the Warrior give you (it's additive).
    The Shadow give you a bonus on critical damage. The more overall damage you do, the more damage it give. It's a multiplicative bonus.

    You perhaps are at the point where the two stone give you exactly the same amount of damage on critical hit. With a little more overall damage, Shadow will be better, but actually Warrior should be the best stone because it boost your non-critical damage as well.

    The Shadow is additive though..

    50% Base Crit Damage + Shadow (12%) + Elfborn/Precise Strikes (Also additive)

    If you look at it in a vacuum, yes its additive. However, if you look at it when factoring in other variables, it's not.

    The Warrior's damage boost it gives you stays constant, no matter if you have 1k Weapon Damage or 4k Weapon Damage. 160 Weapon Damage is still 160 Weapon Damage.

    On the other hand, the Shadow boosts critical damage by 12%. If I had an attack that has 1k damage base, this attack would crit for 1500 damage without the Shadow and 1620 damage with the Shadow. This is a 120 increase in damage.

    If I now have an attack that does 2k damage base, this new attack will crit for 3000 damage without the Shadow and 3240 damage with the shadow. The damage increase from the Shadow is now 240, which means that the Shadow is a multiplicative bonus rather then an additive one.
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  • Xantaria
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    RoyJade wrote: »
    The Warrior boost your damage weapon. The more damage weapon you have, the less damage the Warrior give you (it's additive).
    The Shadow give you a bonus on critical damage. The more overall damage you do, the more damage it give. It's a multiplicative bonus.

    You perhaps are at the point where the two stone give you exactly the same amount of damage on critical hit. With a little more overall damage, Shadow will be better, but actually Warrior should be the best stone because it boost your non-critical damage as well.

    The Shadow is additive though..

    50% Base Crit Damage + Shadow (12%) + Elfborn/Precise Strikes (Also additive)

    you didn't get his point.

    Shadow is a % increase of your dmg thus multiplicative
    Warrior is a flat increase by X thus additive

    That's why the Shadow will be better on high end min max builds.
    Edited by Xantaria on January 26, 2016 11:46AM
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  • Kammakazi
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    RoyJade wrote: »
    The Warrior boost your damage weapon. The more damage weapon you have, the less damage the Warrior give you (it's additive).
    The Shadow give you a bonus on critical damage. The more overall damage you do, the more damage it give. It's a multiplicative bonus.

    You perhaps are at the point where the two stone give you exactly the same amount of damage on critical hit. With a little more overall damage, Shadow will be better, but actually Warrior should be the best stone because it boost your non-critical damage as well.

    The Shadow is additive though..

    50% Base Crit Damage + Shadow (12%) + Elfborn/Precise Strikes (Also additive)

    you didn't get his point.

    Shadow is a % increase of your dmg thus multiplicative
    Warrior is a flat increase by X thus additive

    That's why the Shadow will be better on high end min max builds.

    Oh LOL now that makes more sense

    ;_;
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