I like that they acknowledged that voice chat will still be the primary way to communicate. I don't care if you have a keyboard. If you join my group without a mic you are getting dropped.
I am afraid that this will split how people communicate and lead to even less of a feeling of community but only time will tell.
@LBC_Demon Are you saying you cannot read while playing the game? I am not sure why that would be my or anyones fault but yours. Most of us can type quite fast around 120-160 GWAM The fastest recorded ever was 297. That being said. The time it takes to type a few words can be around a second or so. The point is. They can hear you speak and talk via keyboard and most of the time they are better players because they have learned to type and still not stand in circles and what not.
I am not sure why you think you need to kick deaf, mute, someone with a stoma or anyone who just doesnt want to from your groups because you deem it so. Ive been playing MMOs for about 18 years now here and every MMO i can think of off the top of my head. In that time ive personally met about 20-30 people with such reasons that they cannot use a mic and honestly were some of the better raiders ive met. You really only need 1 person on the mic anyways to call out things etc and having multi people talking at once does not work in such situations. That being said with your ego so high up there why don't you just call everything out for others since only 1 person needs to be talking anyways.
Also people like YOU are the reason there is less community. Because you wont let people be involved because of your rules.
Saying I would drop someone without a mic is harsh but if people aren't even in the mic chat listening I would drop them.
I can't honestly say how reading and talking would work out. That's why I said time will tell.
What I liked was that it forces people to get on mic. Not many people use mics any more these days and it is ruining a lot of games I would have had fun with.
People have the option to play call of duty and be in party chat with a few of their friends and that leaves me alone in the game talking to myself. Party chat gave us another option of where to communicate and it turned out to just separate people.
Back in the day on Socom every single person used a mic. Now everyone is splintered off.
So this game finally came around and forced you to use a mic and it's great. People talk. They even have it so if you are in a party on PS4 and you boot up the game it switches you out of party chat into game chat.
So I thank ZoS for trying to get everyone together on a unified communications system.
You clearly have not played any other hardcore mmo's otherwise you wouldn't be stating this.. Obviously come form CoD or Destiny...
Voice chat is good (albeit hardly anyone uses it anymore only the small ratio of hardcore raiders, Hence why they are added text chat..) ... but only to a point. Text chat is useful for everyone throughout all game-play.
Voice chat is only useful really for raiding and hardcore people.. Stop being so selfish to the people that want to play a normal mmorpg...
Everyone who constantly slates text chat, should be flagged in my opinion and when it goes live it is permanently disabled.
So everyone can trade and group, co-ordinate in cyrodyl ALOT better and those locked out will live a lonely solitary existence like they want us who cant use mic's.
I like that they acknowledged that voice chat will still be the primary way to communicate. I don't care if you have a keyboard. If you join my group without a mic you are getting dropped.
I am afraid that this will split how people communicate and lead to even less of a feeling of community but only time will tell.
@LBC_Demon Are you saying you cannot read while playing the game? I am not sure why that would be my or anyones fault but yours. Most of us can type quite fast around 120-160 GWAM The fastest recorded ever was 297. That being said. The time it takes to type a few words can be around a second or so. The point is. They can hear you speak and talk via keyboard and most of the time they are better players because they have learned to type and still not stand in circles and what not.
I am not sure why you think you need to kick deaf, mute, someone with a stoma or anyone who just doesnt want to from your groups because you deem it so. Ive been playing MMOs for about 18 years now here and every MMO i can think of off the top of my head. In that time ive personally met about 20-30 people with such reasons that they cannot use a mic and honestly were some of the better raiders ive met. You really only need 1 person on the mic anyways to call out things etc and having multi people talking at once does not work in such situations. That being said with your ego so high up there why don't you just call everything out for others since only 1 person needs to be talking anyways.
Also people like YOU are the reason there is less community. Because you wont let people be involved because of your rules.
Saying I would drop someone without a mic is harsh but if people aren't even in the mic chat listening I would drop them.
I can't honestly say how reading and talking would work out. That's why I said time will tell.
What I liked was that it forces people to get on mic. Not many people use mics any more these days and it is ruining a lot of games I would have had fun with.
People have the option to play call of duty and be in party chat with a few of their friends and that leaves me alone in the game talking to myself. Party chat gave us another option of where to communicate and it turned out to just separate people.
Back in the day on Socom every single person used a mic. Now everyone is splintered off.
So this game finally came around and forced you to use a mic and it's great. People talk. They even have it so if you are in a party on PS4 and you boot up the game it switches you out of party chat into game chat.
So I thank ZoS for trying to get everyone together on a unified communications system.
You clearly have not played any other hardcore mmo's otherwise you wouldn't be stating this.. Obviously come form CoD or Destiny...
Voice chat is good (albeit hardly anyone uses it anymore only the small ratio of hardcore raiders, Hence why they are added text chat..) ... but only to a point. Text chat is useful for everyone throughout all game-play.
Voice chat is only useful really for raiding and hardcore people.. Stop being so selfish to the people that want to play a normal mmorpg...
Everyone who constantly slates text chat, should be flagged in my opinion and when it goes live it is permanently disabled.
So everyone can trade and group, co-ordinate in cyrodyl ALOT better and those locked out will live a lonely solitary existence like they want us who cant use mic's.
Nope, try again. I haven't played Destiny although I want to. The last time I was excited for CoD was after CoD 2 when I started working at Activision and we were making CoD 4.
I have been playing MMO's for over 14 years. Starting with Everquest. I have played several on console and I have used a keyboard many times on console.
I like it much more being able to talk to people and not having to type. I never thought typing was a problem but I am happy that it has evolved.
I don't know what you mean when you say hardly anyone uses it anymore. I hear all kinds of people talking in Mournhold and when I ask somebody something it's not long before they switch on their mic most of the time.
Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »In the last day alone six people whom have not used my guild's PSN chatroom for over two months have posted to it saying they are going to start playing actively again once the textchat is added to the game.
Six out of 57 people in the channel...that is a 10% return rate in just one little guild.
Imagine how many will come back, or how many new players will stay longer, when you consider the game as a whole.
Text chat can't come fast enough, no mmo should be without... anyone upset by this is a fool... voice chat is it even close to the primary source of communication... talking to 3 or 4 people at a time is not a very social experience and might as well be destiny at that point of of lacking mmo features
KramUzibra wrote: »Text chat can't come fast enough, no mmo should be without... anyone upset by this is a fool... voice chat is it even close to the primary source of communication... talking to 3 or 4 people at a time is not a very social experience and might as well be destiny at that point of of lacking mmo features
Are u serious voice chat is far superior to text, especially in combat. I can focus on fighting and less on reading and instead of taking my hands of controls to type I can just use my mouth. Plus real voices make for a more realistic experience. It's quite difficult to express true emotion via text. Beside eso said even though text chat will be implemented the primary source of communication for consoles will remain voice chat.
terrordactyl1971 wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Text chat can't come fast enough, no mmo should be without... anyone upset by this is a fool... voice chat is it even close to the primary source of communication... talking to 3 or 4 people at a time is not a very social experience and might as well be destiny at that point of of lacking mmo features
Are u serious voice chat is far superior to text, especially in combat. I can focus on fighting and less on reading and instead of taking my hands of controls to type I can just use my mouth. Plus real voices make for a more realistic experience. It's quite difficult to express true emotion via text. Beside eso said even though text chat will be implemented the primary source of communication for consoles will remain voice chat.
Text chat is for forming the group, advertising guilds or trading...to most people that's obvious
KramUzibra wrote: »Text chat can't come fast enough, no mmo should be without... anyone upset by this is a fool... voice chat is it even close to the primary source of communication... talking to 3 or 4 people at a time is not a very social experience and might as well be destiny at that point of of lacking mmo features
Are u serious voice chat is far superior to text, especially in combat. I can focus on fighting and less on reading and instead of taking my hands of controls to type I can just use my mouth. Plus real voices make for a more realistic experience. It's quite difficult to express true emotion via text. Beside eso said even though text chat will be implemented the primary source of communication for consoles will remain voice chat.
its going to be funny when all these people who are excited about text chat are getting ganked because they're typing a paragraph out on their xbox key board. I am curious how they're going to make it easilly accessed considering the lack of a "cursor" to click on the chat box and start typing. Not to mention every button of the controller is already being used. So now what you'll have to go to the menus to bring it up? Still think its silly.
pecheckler wrote: »its going to be funny when all these people who are excited about text chat are getting ganked because they're typing a paragraph out on their xbox key board. I am curious how they're going to make it easilly accessed considering the lack of a "cursor" to click on the chat box and start typing. Not to mention every button of the controller is already being used. So now what you'll have to go to the menus to bring it up? Still think its silly.
Wireless bluetooth keyboard is $10.
Set controller down. Grab keyboard. Press Enter. Type text. Press enter. Grab controller. I type over 100 wpm so I can get that paragraph done in short order. I don't see any issue with it.
I've given up trying to explain things to the naysayers. Text chat is coming to consoles. Either you use it or you don't. If you don't though, your only limiting yourself.
pecheckler wrote: »I've given up trying to explain things to the naysayers. Text chat is coming to consoles. Either you use it or you don't. If you don't though, your only limiting yourself.
You can bet they'll take the time to use it for trading when they want to buy hard to find items, items in bulk, or just to save on fees. And of course to level crafting swap items for deconstruction.... that is one of the things I miss most about playing on PC.