Oh, we RPGers are still here, but the loud jerks that used to scream here on the forums are gone (thankfully). A LOT of RPGers are also returning to the game after ESOTU, but most of them are still between level 20 and VR 5.

Also, @medieval_TOG, how do you tell an "RPGer" from a "non-RPGer" apart in-game?

The thing with ESO is that the RPG/story aspect is amazing, it's what holds ESO together.
When I do feel immersed in the game I enjoy ESO far more than I ever enjoyed Skyrim. The fighting is fun, the dialogue and voice acting is GREAT and the atmosphere is brilliant (The most visually and coherent game I have EVER played, any category) and it really feels like I'm playing an Elder Scrolls game. To me, this is the most important part of ESO, because you know, it's Elder Scrolls Online.

No, they aren't pushing the RPG too far in hit game, RPG/story is what keeps this game worthwhile. Sure, ZOS has some things to work out in ESO, but they should not sacrifice even a bit of story/RPG for some other aspect of the game.

If anything, they should implement story more in the "end-game". Just rushing through everything just to bash this, spam that and dodge that in a trial or dungeon is just not what I'm after. If I want that, I'll go play WoW.

Combat isn't super, itemization is mediocre and so is a lot of aspects of the game. But the story and atmosphere is astonishing. If people don't take the time to appreciate this, that's their shortcoming - not ESO's.

I'd rather see players kicked out than ZOS kicking out the rpg side

I hope they continue to embrace the legacy of the TES franchise's storytelling, lore, world, cultures and atmosphere. It's the only reason I'm here.

If you want RP role an EP Argonian. It's a thing.

In my opinion, there can't ever be too much Elder Scrolls in an Elder Scrolls Online game.

The RPG part of "MMORPG" means to me more and better ways to express myself as the character(s) I'm playing, be it through itemization (e.g. costumes, gadgets, etc.), emotes, or through a diversity of possible choices in activities, interactions, and quests, which ideally impact the world to the extent that's made possible by the game engine. The "MMO" part of "MMORPG" means to me that I'm being enabled to choose for myself whether or not to do this all by myself, and if I choose to do it together with others, that there will be a positive host of other players to play with.

Narrowing the "MMO" part down to just "PVE item progression" doesn't do it justice, not by a long shot. Of course, the continued acquisition of more powerful gear can serve as a strong motivation, but it shouldn't be the only one, or even the strongest one the game has to offer. WoW went down that path, or rather, started out with it from the very beginning, and after 10 or so years of knowing it, I can confidently say that each and every new expansion is just a repetition of "more of the same" -- regardless of the actual expansion theme -- and a totally predictable, repetitive cycle of "leveling phase, gear level upping phase". An Elder Scrolls based game shouldn't need this, and I fully expect ESO to be more than that.

A way that ZOS could help both RPG'ers and MMO players would be to create a new /Zone for RPG. I used to see them in Zone chat but don't really much any more. There could be a chat channel they are using that I am unaware of. If there was a separate channel they could use strictly for RPG, it would help both them and the normal MMO player.

I really like the direction that the game is going with the DLC content. The day that the PVP world can play with minimal to no lag will truly be a great day in the world of ESO. Then we will have the best of both worlds, great DLC's to enjoy and massive battles as well.

basscraft wrote: »

I think there is a great balance in the community to play the game how you want. ESO is the most diverse game I have played. Being an ES fan since Morrowind. I enjoy the game for both MMO and RPG aspects.

Diverse? Could you expand this? How is ESO different from many other MMOs?

I take a short time to precise some part of the earlier comment.

I'm not against roleplay in an mmo. Worst thing, I kind of like it, and I feel like not that many player are going for it nowadays but what I truly mean has been stipulated by Walking_Legacy and it is that they are trying too hard to be a single player game while being label an MMO.

And on that point, I do believe that I can only oppose to the part of the community who's believing that ESO should keep the focus on lore and solo adventure trying to build an online skyrim and that for many selfish reason.

First, I want to feel a sens of progression, having a meaning as a community. When I play a solo game, I like to take the time to notice the scenarisation, and the way the world director integrate every aspect of the lore into one interesting content, but when I play an MMO I do expect to go further then that because the goal of the game now isn't just me but the community I play with. I want to have friend who are excited about the same thing I'm. Not defeating Molag once into the sewer (even if that could've been a really nice event if there could actually be better drop and increase difficulty (3 portal at once and one hell of a Molag Bar).

Second, and that's honnest from an almost exclusive MMO player, I don't believe that this game should have such a low population went it comes to raiding and grouping. That's not normal. Is it because of the bad or mitigate early review the game actually had when it first come out, is it that the game did not had enough publicity when it actually changes. I think both would be true but I'm not sure that's actually why. And I don't blame people who liked the RPG, it's my second most played type of game and I do understand that the license is actually driving a bunch of people who are mostly looking foward to play a rpg game but I don't believe that it would actually help increase or even create a community because once the content is complete an RPG fan look for an other story to play. While an MMO fan is usually looking to complete the hardest content and stick to the game because of it.

It's not a duel in between, rpg and mmo, because an MMORPG should actually be looking into both direction, it's mostly a contest in between Massive and Online. While I believe an MMORPG should focus more on the aspect of being a Massive experience mostly an Epic one, I feel like at the moment we are looking foward a more online experience, which for me is a lost since the content could had been made to apply for both.

Thanks for taking time to read

I'll rephrase the question as to how I read it.

Is this game leaning to much toward the RPG of the Franchise and to far away from what folks have come to understand as an MMO?

I'll keep it short

For the Elder Scroll's fan - No

For folks wanting WoW, DAoC (or the multitude of other comparisons I've seen) with better graphics - Yes

I love PvP when I get the time for it and feel like doing it. I don't care for Group dungeons and trials. That said, I'm here for The Elder Scrolls Universe and since everyone is not an NPC, for me, it is the best one yet. "MMORPG"

Edit: It wasn't clear what I was answering, so I added a bit at the beginning.

This game can hardly be called a RPG. I love CRPGs but this game ain't it and it will never be. I am fine with that because I am not here for an RPG but a MMO

tinythinker wrote: »

If you want RP role an EP Argonian. It's a thing.

Yes, there is..... They even have meds for it.... and there is always ECT...

On the contrary, I think it leans a bit more toward the MMO side. Not by much, and certainly not in the traditional sense (like raids and forced grouping to progress) but I do feel that many MMO qualities are already counted for and that RPG elements only go so far.
This of course is only my opinion, but I think they should focus a bit more on RPG elements in the future as they add more content.

I think people are merging RP players and RPG platers together. I am an RPG player, and I find people that RP creepy and almost immersion breaking (ironically), so they are quite different.