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Axe of Belharza and Faction Lock not enforced?
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ralonasan✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.My version of explicit: Stated multiple times, on multiple media by multiple people.
I'm guessing what you mean by explicit is an official released statement notarized by ZoS?
This is like saying you didn't know you needed to buy DLC to access DLC. It's common knowledge and common sense.
Your assumption that there would be no other faction in the sewers was wrong and will always been wrong. Hundreds of players cap their home keeps in axe to go kill AD in those sewers. Welcome to PvP.
It wasn't explicit. It wasnt stated in the patch notes. Not everyone reads nor should be required to read pts notes or watch eso live YouTube videos. Paying attention is not the issue here. The fact that they offer faction lock but allow alt NB gankers to remain as long as they want isn't really faction lock now is it. It's a dumb exploitable mechanic and the purpose of this post is to get them to change it. I could care less about the stones. I've already made over 200k stones pvping IC in haderus and azura. So no crying here. Instead, why don't you pvp in a real zone like me and man up instead of skulking around with your twinked out vr16 toon NB preying on non vet pvers trying to experience IC in a faction locked area. I hope to god I come across you on one of the other campaigns because I want to wipe the floor with you.
Zos has an opportunity here to fix this mess. Guarantee you if they do, pvers and casual players will be extremely happy and come out in droves to play this game more. Right now with this stupid mechanic they are shooting themselves in the foot and loosing prospective players that want to try IC but may be to shy or scared or turned off.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.My version of explicit: Stated multiple times, on multiple media by multiple people.
I'm guessing what you mean by explicit is an official released statement notarized by ZoS?
This is like saying you didn't know you needed to buy DLC to access DLC. It's common knowledge and common sense.
Your assumption that there would be no other faction in the sewers was wrong and will always been wrong. Hundreds of players cap their home keeps in axe to go kill AD in those sewers. Welcome to PvP.
It wasn't explicit. It wasnt stated in the patch notes. Not everyone reads nor should be required to read pts notes or watch eso live YouTube videos. Paying attention is not the issue here. The fact that they offer faction lock but allow alt NB gankers to remain as long as they want isn't really faction lock now is it. It's a dumb exploitable mechanic and the purpose of this post is to get them to change it. I could care less about the stones. I've already made over 200k stones pvping IC in haderus and azura. So no crying here. Instead, why don't you pvp in a real zone like me and man up instead of skulking around with your twinked out vr16 toon NB preying on non vet pvers trying to experience IC in a faction locked area. I hope to god I come across you on one of the other campaigns because I want to wipe the floor with you.
Zos has an opportunity here to fix this mess. Guarantee you if they do, pvers and casual players will be extremely happy and come out in droves to play this game more. Right now with this stupid mechanic they are shooting themselves in the foot and loosing prospective players that want to try IC but may be to shy or scared or turned off.
@nasan , feel free to come get rekt anytime. I'll be back on the game 2nd week of january.
Don't act like you won't wait till they are in combat with mobs then gank em. Oh so gud.
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.My version of explicit: Stated multiple times, on multiple media by multiple people.
I'm guessing what you mean by explicit is an official released statement notarized by ZoS?
This is like saying you didn't know you needed to buy DLC to access DLC. It's common knowledge and common sense.
Your assumption that there would be no other faction in the sewers was wrong and will always been wrong. Hundreds of players cap their home keeps in axe to go kill AD in those sewers. Welcome to PvP.
It wasn't explicit. It wasnt stated in the patch notes. Not everyone reads nor should be required to read pts notes or watch eso live YouTube videos. Paying attention is not the issue here. The fact that they offer faction lock but allow alt NB gankers to remain as long as they want isn't really faction lock now is it. It's a dumb exploitable mechanic and the purpose of this post is to get them to change it. I could care less about the stones. I've already made over 200k stones pvping IC in haderus and azura. So no crying here. Instead, why don't you pvp in a real zone like me and man up instead of skulking around with your twinked out vr16 toon NB preying on non vet pvers trying to experience IC in a faction locked area. I hope to god I come across you on one of the other campaigns because I want to wipe the floor with you.
Zos has an opportunity here to fix this mess. Guarantee you if they do, pvers and casual players will be extremely happy and come out in droves to play this game more. Right now with this stupid mechanic they are shooting themselves in the foot and loosing prospective players that want to try IC but may be to shy or scared or turned off.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »JackDaniell wrote: »IC = PvP zone, if that's not your cup of tea go to wrothgar
Exactly. Go farm old orsinium or something.
There's 3 other pvp campaigns for people to pvp, 4 including axe topside. Why would I goto wrothgar if gated access = faction lock? Stones should not be unique to just pvp. Pvers want access to stones too. Gated access and faction lock is a good alternative for pvers.
There's 4 campaigns for pvp. Stones are available inside a pvp zone. Players kill players in pvp. You died because you got complacent and you're being nieve. It's been known since before IC launch that locked access means you can no longer get INTO IC if your faction does not own its home keeps. And it was explicitly stated that people already in IC would not get kicked out.
Take responsibility for your mistake and prepare better the next time you go farm. If not, I'll cap my home keeps in axe and teach you to be prepared.
Your tears restore my Magika.
Peace bruv.My version of explicit: Stated multiple times, on multiple media by multiple people.
I'm guessing what you mean by explicit is an official released statement notarized by ZoS?
This is like saying you didn't know you needed to buy DLC to access DLC. It's common knowledge and common sense.
Your assumption that there would be no other faction in the sewers was wrong and will always been wrong. Hundreds of players cap their home keeps in axe to go kill AD in those sewers. Welcome to PvP.
It wasn't explicit. It wasnt stated in the patch notes. Not everyone reads nor should be required to read pts notes or watch eso live YouTube videos. Paying attention is not the issue here. The fact that they offer faction lock but allow alt NB gankers to remain as long as they want isn't really faction lock now is it. It's a dumb exploitable mechanic and the purpose of this post is to get them to change it. I could care less about the stones. I've already made over 200k stones pvping IC in haderus and azura. So no crying here. Instead, why don't you pvp in a real zone like me and man up instead of skulking around with your twinked out vr16 toon NB preying on non vet pvers trying to experience IC in a faction locked area. I hope to god I come across you on one of the other campaigns because I want to wipe the floor with you.
Zos has an opportunity here to fix this mess. Guarantee you if they do, pvers and casual players will be extremely happy and come out in droves to play this game more. Right now with this stupid mechanic they are shooting themselves in the foot and loosing prospective players that want to try IC but may be to shy or scared or turned off.
@nasan , feel free to come get rekt anytime. I'll be back on the game 2nd week of january.
Don't act like you won't wait till they are in combat with mobs then gank em. Oh so gud.
HAH. hokay bru
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ralonasan✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
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☐ THIS IS P2W!
☐ L2P n00b.
☐ Where is the LOL button??
☐ Fix PvP lag.
☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
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✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Well if this is truly working as intended, it's a poor decision by Zos. They are losing prospective players. Limiting people the experience of IC by allowing the horrendous pvp community to "rek" them via this mechanic is illogical from a business pespective. I highly doubt the pvp community would care if they fixed it. We have 3 other campaigns to choose from. Any self respecting pvper wouldn't waste time skulking around trolling a faction locked area trying to gank for stones. As a pvper I don't do this nor have any need to. I can earn my stones legit via haderus and azura. If its not working as intended, Zos should fix it.Legacy of Kain
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Someone got coal for Christmas.
No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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ralonasan✭✭✭✭I spend my time in the Haderus sewers as well, what is your characters name?The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
☐ THIS IS P2W!
☐ L2P n00b.
☐ Where is the LOL button??
☐ Fix PvP lag.
☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
☐ Natch Potes.
☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
☐ Race Change ETA?
☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
☐ Why don't Trials scale?
☐ Working as intended.
☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
☐ When will "thing" be added?0 -
ralonasan✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Someone got coal for Christmas.
No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.
I have no nightblade in those sewers. But getting an alt inside a locked campaign is a valid and frankly brilliant tactic.The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
☐ THIS IS P2W!
☐ L2P n00b.
☐ Where is the LOL button??
☐ Fix PvP lag.
☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
☐ Natch Potes.
☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
☐ Race Change ETA?
☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
☐ Why don't Trials scale?
☐ Working as intended.
☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
☐ When will "thing" be added?0 -
ralonasan✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Someone got coal for Christmas.
No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.
So ganking is not pvp? what a strange world you live in.The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
☐ THIS IS P2W!
☐ L2P n00b.
☐ Where is the LOL button??
☐ Fix PvP lag.
☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
☐ Natch Potes.
☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
☐ Race Change ETA?
☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
☐ Why don't Trials scale?
☐ Working as intended.
☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
☐ When will "thing" be added?1 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Well if this is truly working as intended, it's a poor decision by Zos. They are losing prospective players. Limiting people the experience of IC by allowing the horrendous pvp community to "rek" them via this mechanic is illogical from a business pespective. I highly doubt the pvp community would care if they fixed it. We have 3 other campaigns to choose from. Any self respecting pvper wouldn't waste time skulking around trolling a faction locked area trying to gank for stones. As a pvper I don't do this nor have any need to. I can earn my stones legit via haderus and azura. If its not working as intended, Zos should fix it.
Zos devs intended this, as a matter fact if you felt like going back to the eso live episodes before they released IC you would see them excited to see what little monster they will let out of the bag with IC.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Someone got coal for Christmas.
No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.
So ganking is not pvp? what a strange world you live in.
Oh its pvp alright. I was in Had sewers for a large portion of today, enjoying some pvp.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Someone got coal for Christmas.
No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.
I have no nightblade in those sewers. But getting an alt inside a locked campaign is a valid and frankly brilliant tactic.
It is brilliant, you can net a lot of TV with very little effort. It's just bad game design tho. Someone spends hours farming only to lose 80% of their efforts in the blink of an eye while the attacker doesn't have to risk anything. Should have to carry stones to get stones from players.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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ralonasan✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
Someone got coal for Christmas.
No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.
So ganking is not pvp? what a strange world you live in.
Oh its pvp alright. I was in Had sewers for a large portion of today, enjoying some pvp.
Then what is your point here? That killing people in Axe sewers is somehow different because they believe they are safe? I don't think it's possible to determine player skill based on what campaign they play in. 99% of the people you come across in the sewers are going to be bad, undergeared or half dead. Maybe even a combination of those factors. This is true wether you're in Haderus/Lagzuras/balckwater ..whatever.
It's like you guys want to create a Safe Space for all the little yellow flowers to farm their stones in. Come on now.
If not, we can elect one of you PC Principle of Axe and be done with it. @TheBullThe ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
☐ Nerf/Buff Sorcerers.
☐ Nerf/Buff Nightblades.
☐ Nerf/Buff Dragonknights.
☐ Nerf/Buff Templars.
☐ THIS IS P2W!
☐ L2P n00b.
☐ Where is the LOL button??
☐ Fix PvP lag.
☐ LFG is full of scrubs.
☐ WHEN WILL YOU ADD CONSOLE TEXT CHAT?
☐ WHEN ARE ARENAS COMING?
☐ Natch Potes.
☐ Nerf Veteran Maelstrom Arena.
☐ Race Change ETA?
☐ Please add the Barber Shop!
☐ Why don't Trials scale?
☐ Working as intended.
☐ Why did you nerf/buff this?
☐ When will "thing" be added?3 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭The point is that PvP players want to farm people who don't know what they are doing.
ZOS should have made the TV system different. In order to get someone else's stones you should have to carry some your self. It should have been you pick up 100% of what you carry.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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ralonasan✭✭✭✭The only difference between those players is that the ones in Axe carry more stones. The level of skill they might have cannot be determined, therefore making it irrelevant. It is impossible to know if someone you're about to gank "knows what they are doing" unless you've killed that person before. This fact no matter where you kill them.
My last comment here. Enjoy your "safe space".The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »hammayolettuce wrote: »This has to be one of the best threads of 2015. Thank you for all of the hilarious comments because you entered a pvp area and died.
OMNOMNOM GIMMIE YO STONES
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You didn't read properly or did not understand.
This thread is not whining about dying in a pvp zone (I did not even die).
It is about how illogical it is that you still can find enemies (and respawning enemies) in a zone where everyone else but your own faction is supposed to be locked out. It simply makes little sense and wasn't clearly mentioned as such in the "rules".
By the way, what the hell are you doing with stones ? Does anyone still care about stones ? What people farm in the sewers isn't stones anymore, believe me ;-)
Actually, the description of the campaign doesn't say "Faction Locked". It says "Gated Access".The Moot Councillor4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I have to point out a few things that have actually happened to me on Axe. I was logged in and in Cyro on Axe and saw the need to help defend a home fort. I joined some people (they were a guild, and i'm not going to name and shame) and after we retook the fort, I was curious why they didn't advance to the next fort. We only owned 2. They replied that they had a deal with the at the time AD emp that they wouldn't take any of "his keeps" and he would let them keep the 2 home keeps. I was kinda shocked, but I just thanked them for group, and left. I was sickened to see team orange first hand. Apparently crap like that goes on and its futile to be naive to it.
I bring this up because, if the changes you want happen, this will get out of hand. There will be more deals, more monopoly, more bullcrap. AD not only has Axe, they have Trueflame, and are always fighting on Azura for emperorship pushes. The idea that they could juggle all of these campaigns and still keep DC and EP out of Axe is ridiculous. All I hear is EP zergs, DC zergs, whine whine whine from the AD and yet its a different story in Cyro. I 100% believe if EP were in AD's shoes, you would see way more complaining, way more whining. But AD has most of everything, to the point where now people like you complain about how some sneaky EP killed you and how you, this long after IC launch, didn't know they were allowed in during locked status, and you want everyone out when your faction dominates so you eliminate PVP in a PVP zone! We have bounty boards in our base for a reason!
I really hope you can be objective about this. There is no reason to remove 2 factions from the PVP zone that IC is. It's most of the fun, sneaking around, popping detect pots, using radiant magelight if you can't afford pots. When you get the one up on someone and win a fight its great! And when you have lots of stones and you lose them, you earn them back! Stones are easy come easy go!
If you have people kicked from inside IC when they lose access, mark my words, it will increase people handing off keeps to each other, people will manipulate it and you won't like the outcome. Ya you'll be able to walk around with lots of stones in a PVP environment with none of the consequences of being a PVP environment. That's not fun for anyone except the people who manipulate who has dominance. Ya they could go to Haderus or Azuras, but that isn't the point of the matter. IC was not designed to have the PVP aspect yanked from it, and while it sucks to get sucker punched by a ganker, its better for the game as a whole.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!3 -
thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭Wouldnt be suprised if the devs intentionally let you respawn inside IC eveb during lockout so people couldnt just form a buff campaign then enjoy the rewards of IC with no consequence. IC was not meant to be a safe place meant for one faction to farm in peace in and im sure you gain much more than you lose when ganked in an average day of grinding so quit whining that a zone meant for pvp forces you to ovp.0
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✭thelordoffelines wrote: »Wouldnt be suprised if the devs intentionally let you respawn inside IC eveb during lockout so people couldnt just form a buff campaign then enjoy the rewards of IC with no consequence. IC was not meant to be a safe place meant for one faction to farm in peace in and im sure you gain much more than you lose when ganked in an average day of grinding so quit whining that a zone meant for pvp forces you to ovp.
The devs let you stay in IC when its locked because it keeps a "punishment" system in place and doesn't allow free farming. So many people in here are upset because they go to a mixed content zone and only know one aspect of it. Its honestly a L2P issue.
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AFrostWolf✭✭✭✭Arguing with the pvp community is silly, they want to be able to farm you. ZOS wants them to be able to farm you. And zos doesn't want them to have to farm PvE for helms. This is a bold statement from Zos devs. If it wasn't so profitable people wouldn't leave their NB in the sewers to gank unsuspecting pve players.
BTW there is achievments for ganking people with over 10k stones so ZOS intended them to be able to wreck your day. Enjoy.
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No, just speak truth. You don't leave your NB in Axe to fight good PVP players you want to farm noobs while they fight mobs. Just admit it.
I have no nightblade in those sewers. But getting an alt inside a locked campaign is a valid and frankly brilliant tactic.
It is brilliant, you can net a lot of TV with very little effort. It's just bad game design tho. Someone spends hours farming only to lose 80% of their efforts in the blink of an eye while the attacker doesn't have to risk anything. Should have to carry stones to get stones from players.
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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sheezabeast wrote: »I don't think the silliest of you two is @joshdm2001_ESO . Reading before answering could help you understanding the situation much better.
OP thought IC was locked for other factions = safer for his faction = PvP-free, and it's perfecly legit to think this way because that's how it was described by ZOS in their very first versions of gated campaigns (August on PTS).
It would have been very silly to bank those stones because he had just taken them OUT OF the bank into his inventory to benefit from the multiplier.
I did that too. Because I thought just like him. I was very surprised when I was ganked by a red. And very relieved when I won the fight. OP wasn't that lucky, that's all.
Well exactly. Also, I can see if they aren't kicked on flip, but then AT LEAST when they died, they should be spawned at their home base.
I usually always just go other campaigns now anyway because Axe has no actual point.
I went there in the past just to have a look around IC Edited by Islyn on December 28, 2015 7:27AMMember of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20130 -
Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fire is hot and you can get ganked in IC.
It's explicit and implicit. The ENTRANCE becomes faction-locked.
However, I do agree that you shouldn't be able to respawn inside if your entrance has been locked.
This.
(but as I said, moot issue...but still true)
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✭The only thing they failed on with the gated access is that you can respawn inside if you die when your faction doesn't have access. Loosing access should not kick players who are already inside, the faction that swings the faction lock should take care of "cleaning" the sewers. (= rewarding, hunting down and kicking out those pesky gankers)
This faction access should have been done for all campaigns, but there was a huge QQ thread of PvE players about how it was "illegal" in some countries to sell a DLC and not have 24/7 access to it... some people really take games too serious!
Now with only 1 faction locked campaign, ofcourse most play on the other campaigns.. and the ones that have the faction locked campaign under control ofcourse think they are 100% safe.
But even if all campaigns had a faction lock, having a guest campaign and a very easy way to port to group to any campaign, even that would not work as people will always have a way to pick a campaign where they can enter.
Unfortunately, the game has too many work arounds to make the faction lock useless. Same issues that make realm pride something this game lacks.
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Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭Just let those EP or smurfs oor whatever gank those carebears.
why people even care? it's theirs stones not yours, and if you did die to someone, well, god damm , it IS a pvp zone.... Mai cave. >:31 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just let those EP or smurfs oor whatever gank those carebears.
why people even care? it's theirs stones not yours, and if you did die to someone, well, god damm , it IS a pvp zone.
Learn to read, please.
It's got nothing to do with dying or not dying, ganking or not ganking, stones or no stones, carebears or not of whatever color.
It's got to do with the logic behind a "gated access campaign" and its consequences for action in overland Cyrodiil and in IC.1 -
Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Just let those EP or smurfs oor whatever gank those carebears.
why people even care? it's theirs stones not yours, and if you did die to someone, well, god damm , it IS a pvp zone.
Learn to read, please.
It's got nothing to do with dying or not dying, ganking or not ganking, stones or no stones, carebears or not of whatever color.
It's got to do with the logic behind a "gated access campaign" and its consequences for action in overland Cyrodiil and in IC.
Access that they don't have, yes. It's gated.
But they were there before the gates were closed; so They stay there until they decide to leave.
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anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The game is not going to kick you out of content you paid for.
I don't buy that one : it would apply as well to "forbidden entry", + people could enjoy their "paid content" on other campaigns - that's why non-gated campaign exist.
That's definitely not the reason why people can respawn within IC even if they have no access and even after a pvp death.
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Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »That's definitely not the reason why people can respawn within IC even if they have no access and even after a pvp death.
Kind of is.
Originally, ALL of the campaigns would have this gated access, and you would get kicked/not be able to respawn in, if your alliance lost their home keeps.
However, they backed out, because they can't sell content that other players can actively prevent you from playing. They'd get sued, and would need to refund all the players with weaker pvp-oriented guilds in their faction.... Mai cave. >:31 -
anitajoneb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »That's definitely not the reason why people can respawn within IC even if they have no access and even after a pvp death.
Kind of is.
Originally, ALL of the campaigns would have this gated access, and you would get kicked/not be able to respawn in, if your alliance lost their home keeps.
However, they backed out, because they can't sell content that other players can actively prevent you from playing. They'd get sued, and would need to refund all the players with weaker pvp-oriented guilds in their faction.
I know, but that's the reason why there are ungated campaigns, NOT why people are allowed to rezz within IC on a gated campaign.1 -
Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭Zeni just decided to play it safe as far as the possibility of players openin' law suits against them due to it being impossible to play content they pay for. They did make one campaign later on with this gated access (Axe). But since this one just became a farm zone for AD and gank fest for the other alliances, they are not likely to make new ones, or even maintain this system in teh future.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, fine, whatever, but none of this explains the logic behind people being allowed to rezz in IC in a gated campaign. (I feel kinda parrot-ish, how come... ?)1