Spend some money on server upgrades!

NobleNerd · December 2015

Lately I have noticed a huge issue with latency spikes in ESO. I will see latency go from 89 to 999 for about 10-20 secs, the game interaction sometimes freezes up and then it goes back to normal.

I have run speed tests, trace routes and the likes on my end and with my ISP with positive results, so I know my end is good. I also have edited my firewall(s) and AV settings to allow for the game to be unhindered.

I can play any other MMO with no issues and little latency spikes (spikes happen i understand that).

SO...

ZOS please take some time during 2016 to invest in server and ISP upgrade and support.

Kammakazi · December 2015

If you can play any other MMO... then play the other MMO(s) lol

Yolokin_Swagonborn · December 2015

MisterBigglesworth · December 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

ZOS should reset their routers....

OGLezard · December 2015

Let's be honest. No matter how much better the servers get the lag won't go away when you have 30+ derpaderps stacking on crown spamming steel tornado, healing springs, rapid regen, caltrops.

As long as that mentality of gameplay is still happening the servers will ALWAYS be ***

DannyLV702 · December 2015

OGLezard wrote: »

Let's be honest. No matter how much better the servers get the lag won't go away when you have 30+ derpaderps stacking on crown spamming steel tornado, healing springs, rapid regen, caltrops.

As long as that mentality of gameplay is still happening the servers will ALWAYS be ***

You're wrong. This game PROMOTES that, so it should be able to handle it.

OGLezard · December 2015

DannyLV702 wrote: »

OGLezard wrote: »

Let's be honest. No matter how much better the servers get the lag won't go away when you have 30+ derpaderps stacking on crown spamming steel tornado, healing springs, rapid regen, caltrops.

As long as that mentality of gameplay is still happening the servers will ALWAYS be ***

You're wrong. This game PROMOTES that, so it should be able to handle it.

No, the game doesn't promote it. The players did. The game started to promote it once players complained that 4 people could kill 20+ because of no aoe caps and everyone taking full damage from aoe.

AOE caps is what started the game promoting it.

It was all down hill after that once players realized anything over 6 people was more damage mitigation for everyone, thanks to aoe caps.

Gidorick · December 2015

Didn't they already do that?

RatedChaotic · December 2015

Its a game built around big pvp battles (duh its in the game description). They should've known that there will be alot aoe abilities being used in a small area.

This is what happens when the devs decides to give a million away instead of upgrading equipment.

Sithisvoid · December 2015

haha spend the million on the servers

dem0n1k · December 2015

An Australian server would be very nice... thanks ZOS!

phairdon · December 2015

OGLezard wrote: »

Let's be honest. No matter how much better the servers get the lag won't go away when you have 30+ derpaderps stacking on crown spamming steel tornado, healing springs, rapid regen, caltrops.

As long as that mentality of gameplay is still happening the servers will ALWAYS be ***

Ohhh. So, skills are to blame for lag now. Not deer anymore. Ban all skills in Cyrodiil, no more lag.

I bet if another group of skills were being spammed, someone would come onto the forum and blame those particular skills.

NobleNerd · December 2015

Large group fights and AoE skills going off should have no issue with ping and latency.... unless ZOS is trying to stream too much server side or did not properly account for the strain on the servers.

Also working with ISPs for proper response and bandwidth for the game goes a long way.

Waseem · December 2015

dont forget the inability to cast skills, inability to use overload, inability to switch skill bars inability to reloadUi or leave the game or interact with anything(must alt+f4).. and im sort of new to cyrodiil...

WalkingLegacy · December 2015

They blame it on the CP system.

They should get rid of the CP system and just go back to balancing around items. Easier to balance items then it is 500 points into a second leveling system.

Then if CP is truly the cause of most the lag it will be gone and a better character/itemization system can be in place.

Sausage · December 2015

Last thing they did brought lots of improvements but Azura is still lagfest during Evenings. We need Cyrodil overhaul. Get rid off of all PVE content, reduce the player per campaign, design whole Cyrodil again.

Malmai · December 2015

Cyrodiil is unplayable i never saw that much lag in a game...

Volkodav · December 2015

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Its a game built around big pvp battles (duh its in the game description). They should've known that there will be alot aoe abilities being used in a small area.

This is what happens when the devs decides to give a million away instead of upgrading equipment.

Actually,this game wasnt built around big PvP battles at all. And,no it isnt in the name description.The game title is:
"The Elder Scrolls Online".
Not "The Elder Scrolls PvP Battles Online".
It was made for people who wanted questing,and PvP was added along the way.

NobleNerd · December 2015

Volkodav wrote: »

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Its a game built around big pvp battles (duh its in the game description). They should've known that there will be alot aoe abilities being used in a small area.

This is what happens when the devs decides to give a million away instead of upgrading equipment.

Actually,this game wasnt built around big PvP battles at all. And,no it isnt in the name description.The game title is:
"The Elder Scrolls Online".
Not "The Elder Scrolls PvP Battles Online".
It was made for people who wanted questing,and PvP was added along the way.

Actually if you take a look back at the way ZOS promoted the game before launch, they intended it to have large scale PvP and marketed it towards the old DAoC players.

BUT

That is neither here nor there for this thread.

Whether you are playing PvE or PvP the latency and lag is there (more noticeable in PvP).

Sithisvoid · December 2015

The lag is stupid. I played Defiance on xbox 360 and we had hundreds of players on screen at the same time launching elemental AOE missiles, ground pounders, drving cars around like maniacs all fighting two hundred foot tall monsters and Trion was a horrible company, but their lag was less. Even looking up at the sky and seeing it look like a 1960 lsd trip with multicolored clouds (Serious glitch) there was less lag.

Ethona · December 2015

NobleNerd wrote: »

Lately I have noticed a huge issue with latency spikes in ESO. I will see latency go from 89 to 999 for about 10-20 secs, the game interaction sometimes freezes up and then it goes back to normal.

I have run speed tests, trace routes and the likes on my end and with my ISP with positive results, so I know my end is good. I also have edited my firewall(s) and AV settings to allow for the game to be unhindered.

I can play any other MMO with no issues and little latency spikes (spikes happen i understand that).

SO...

ZOS please take some time during 2016 to invest in server and ISP upgrade and support.

These spikes have been with the game since patch 1.6 but you can't tell ZOS that. Its funny how we players will notice bugs with the game after a patch and yet ZOS think we just dreaming up things. It's my opinion that ZOS don't consider it their issue. Before 1.6 my ping to NA was in the 60ms, and my EU ping was around 120ms. After the 1.6 patch my NA ping is 120-140ms avg, and my EU ping is 240-260ms. EXACTLY double on avg increase ever since 1.6 patch was release. Also I get plenty of the spikes to 300, 500, 999ms. Why? Oh I know ZOS, you will just blame it on the ISP that I'm with. Perhaps it's some sort of anti-cheat software that snoops on the packets cuasing it all to be delay? Of course this the only mmorpgs I play that has these issues but you can't prove that to ZOS.

NobleNerd · December 2015

Ethona wrote: »

NobleNerd wrote: »

Lately I have noticed a huge issue with latency spikes in ESO. I will see latency go from 89 to 999 for about 10-20 secs, the game interaction sometimes freezes up and then it goes back to normal.

I have run speed tests, trace routes and the likes on my end and with my ISP with positive results, so I know my end is good. I also have edited my firewall(s) and AV settings to allow for the game to be unhindered.

I can play any other MMO with no issues and little latency spikes (spikes happen i understand that).

SO...

ZOS please take some time during 2016 to invest in server and ISP upgrade and support.

These spikes have been with the game since patch 1.6 but you can't tell ZOS that. Its funny how we players will notice bugs with the game after a patch and yet ZOS think we just dreaming up things. It's my opinion that ZOS don't consider it their issue. Before 1.6 my ping to NA was in the 60ms, and my EU ping was around 120ms. After the 1.6 patch my NA ping is 120-140ms avg, and my EU ping is 240-260ms. EXACTLY double on avg increase ever since 1.6 patch was release. Also I get plenty of the spikes to 300, 500, 999ms. Why? Oh I know ZOS, you will just blame it on the ISP that I'm with. Perhaps it's some sort of anti-cheat software that snoops on the packets cuasing it all to be delay? Of course this the only mmorpgs I play that has these issues but you can't prove that to ZOS.

I feel your pain man....

If ZOS doesn't get things under control they will be losing many players soon. I know there are at least 4-5 major ESO streamers that are taking a break from the game going into 2016.

ProfessorKittyhawk · December 2015

Let's abandon the megaservers and have multiple other servers instead. You know, like other mmos do.

I'll get my coat.

silky_soft · December 2015

Lose players to what game? There isn't anything to lose them to. Even though it's buggy as hell the pvp is still decent, when red aren't getting their entire map in 1 location (NA AZ).

NobleNerd · December 2015

silky_soft wrote: »

Lose players to what game? There isn't anything to lose them to. Even though it's buggy as hell the pvp is still decent, when red aren't getting their entire map in 1 location (NA AZ).

I know some have said they are going to play Blade-n-Soul and also Black Desert Online when it launches... and in all honesty I think I will be checking out Black Desert.

VincentBlanquin · December 2015

phairdon wrote: »

OGLezard wrote: »

Let's be honest. No matter how much better the servers get the lag won't go away when you have 30+ derpaderps stacking on crown spamming steel tornado, healing springs, rapid regen, caltrops.

As long as that mentality of gameplay is still happening the servers will ALWAYS be ***

Ohhh. So, skills are to blame for lag now. Not deer anymore. Ban all skills in Cyrodiil, no more lag.

I bet if another group of skills were being spammed, someone would come onto the forum and blame those particular skills.

deer is hiding somewhere in the forest and zos cant find them yet

MaxwellC · December 2015

ZoS can't afford a server upgrade, now if the game was back to P2P that would be a different story but they're not just laying off employees for nothing.

Draxys · December 2015

Volkodav wrote: »

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Its a game built around big pvp battles (duh its in the game description). They should've known that there will be alot aoe abilities being used in a small area.

This is what happens when the devs decides to give a million away instead of upgrading equipment.

Actually,this game wasnt built around big PvP battles at all. And,no it isnt in the name description.The game title is:
"The Elder Scrolls Online".
Not "The Elder Scrolls PvP Battles Online".
It was made for people who wanted questing,and PvP was added along the way.

Actually, this is your opinion and/or perception and it's wrong lol

The end game was meant to be pvp and they heavily marketed it around large scale battles.

BuggeX · December 2015

Volkodav wrote: »

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Its a game built around big pvp battles (duh its in the game description). They should've known that there will be alot aoe abilities being used in a small area.

This is what happens when the devs decides to give a million away instead of upgrading equipment.

Actually,this game wasnt built around big PvP battles at all. And,no it isnt in the name description.The game title is:
"The Elder Scrolls Online".
Not "The Elder Scrolls PvP Battles Online".
It was made for people who wanted questing,and PvP was added along the way.

why would the make a badass map for pvp, i mean cyro is enorm, when they dont even want that someone is pvping.
they could just add a 0815 Arena and done

ADarklore · December 2015

How about people accept this... what ZOS "advertised" is clearly not technologically possible otherwise they would have resolved it by now. Also, it is NOT ZOS 'giving away a million dollars' out of their budget... and I also doubt ZOS has the financial capability to add extra servers after they just closed their customer service center overseas when their CS is already at an all-time low.

It should be quite clear by now that ZOS will never be able to provide 'lag free' PvP... so why people keep complaining is beyond me because if it hasn't been fixed by now, it never will be. People keep mentioning adding extra servers, yet ZOS continues trying to fix it by making combat adjustments- so clearly it isn't a server issue if they aren't even considering that route, unless it does boil down to budgetary constraints.

It always amazes me when people continue to hold ZOS to things they said years ago... when clearly they had bitten off more then they could chew, which became even more clear when they had to take an extra year just to get the console versions to work. So continuing to hold them to things they clearly, IMO, will never be able to deliver on is just pointless... if you aren't happy with the game, then move on... but constantly complaining with the expectation of a resolution to the lag problem is just wasting time and tying up forum space. Also keep in mind that ZOS wouldn't be the first gaming company to advertise things about their game that they weren't actually able to deliver... many times the best laid plans just cannot ever be fulfilled.

JaJaLuka · December 2015

Sausage wrote: »

Last thing they did brought lots of improvements but Azura is still lagfest during Evenings. We need Cyrodil overhaul. Get rid off of all PVE content, reduce the player per campaign, design whole Cyrodil again.

They already reduced the number of players per campaign, so that's not really a problem. Though it could be if it's lowered again, except this time it could go the other way. It's already painful at times finding fights and the siege battles are just a shadow of what they used to be.

Here's hoping the upcoming upgrade to their system fixes at least a few elements of what's causing the lag and/or FPS issues.

Is it a complete overhaul or new system that will be running Cyrodiil? I'm sorry I can't remember what they said about it.

Edit: @MaxwellCrystal they already have stated that they are upgrading the system on Cyrodiil.