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Nerf Vmsa already
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zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.
Yet the best endgame gear is crafted with monster sets. So what exactly do you need? The only thing i might find handy is the resto staff for pvp rapid regen spam .
Even won't be useful for dungeons as most good healers never run out of magicka.
So that's kind of a silly point, if you've geared up and done all the trials, dungeons, pledges, gotten the monster sets, do well in pvp, and have been able to beat vMSA what exactly do you want a gold item that's going to lower your gear value by for?
What do you mean crafted with monster sets? 5 piece Julianos or Twice Born Star set + 2 piece monster set does not make a crafted weapon part of a bonus set. I am currently using a gold Staff of Torugs with a precise trait resto staff. How is that better than a gold master weapon resto staff when I am currently using gold 5 piece Julianos set+ Engine Guardian?That is why master weapons are very useful. Again like I said, NO end game gear should be only obtained through solo game play in a Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
For example
Best magicka templar dps set
5x julianos
4x magnus
Or
5x julianos
3x magnus
1x kena
Swap julianos for kragneracs hope and you have a great dungeon healer setup.
Stamplar or stam nb
Hundings rage x5
Night mothers gaze x4
Or
5x hundings
3x sentry
1x kena
Sorc setup
5x julianos
2x kena
2x torugs
Etc etc
All of the absolutely top notch builds, that have been used by many many players to beat the hardest content in the game, or be used and successful in pvp (and many other builds similar) have no master weapons.
To actually make use of a master weapon you have to have a build focused around it, as in tailor your other items, skills and rotations to purely factor in that one weapon.
But even without these master weapons, templars can heal through any end gsme content, sorcs have hit 56k dps, even templars have hit 36k dps (both magicka) and nb's and dks can be one shot hero's in pvp.
LOL
Can't comprehend the truth?
My own magi templar has 1700 regen, 3450 spell power, 42k magicka and has healed through ICP WGT and has done VMSA , have had a go at trials briefly once, hel ra, but not many people running trials anymore.
So what exactly should this masters weapon be helping me with? Since if my build is capable of completing all content why should I change it for inferior gear?
People have pulled 25k dps with this setup, my other numbers were posted by a chap a few weeks ago, he did 46k dps on a sorc, someone else managed 56k dps, then he did a mag templar and hit 36k dps.
All without masters weapons
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pronkg✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.
Yet the best endgame gear is crafted with monster sets. So what exactly do you need? The only thing i might find handy is the resto staff for pvp rapid regen spam .
Even won't be useful for dungeons as most good healers never run out of magicka.
So that's kind of a silly point, if you've geared up and done all the trials, dungeons, pledges, gotten the monster sets, do well in pvp, and have been able to beat vMSA what exactly do you want a gold item that's going to lower your gear value by for?
What do you mean crafted with monster sets? 5 piece Julianos or Twice Born Star set + 2 piece monster set does not make a crafted weapon part of a bonus set. I am currently using a gold Staff of Torugs with a precise trait resto staff. How is that better than a gold master weapon resto staff when I am currently using gold 5 piece Julianos set+ Engine Guardian?That is why master weapons are very useful. Again like I said, NO end game gear should be only obtained through solo game play in a Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
For example
Best magicka templar dps set
5x julianos
4x magnus
Or
5x julianos
3x magnus
1x kena
Swap julianos for kragneracs hope and you have a great dungeon healer setup.
Stamplar or stam nb
Hundings rage x5
Night mothers gaze x4
Or
5x hundings
3x sentry
1x kena
Sorc setup
5x julianos
2x kena
2x torugs
Etc etc
All of the absolutely top notch builds, that have been used by many many players to beat the hardest content in the game, or be used and successful in pvp (and many other builds similar) have no master weapons.
To actually make use of a master weapon you have to have a build focused around it, as in tailor your other items, skills and rotations to purely factor in that one weapon.
But even without these master weapons, templars can heal through any end gsme content, sorcs have hit 56k dps, even templars have hit 36k dps (both magicka) and nb's and dks can be one shot hero's in pvp.
LOL
What's there to laugh he's right. You really think a small 146 spell damage difference is gamebreaking?
And yes 146 spell damage difference that's about what the math comes down to compared to the usual nirnhoned staff.
A couple hundred CP can even top that.
Only the best of the best player can run this arena with min/max builds.
All others should go for more sustain first which will make it way way easier.
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zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.
Yet the best endgame gear is crafted with monster sets. So what exactly do you need? The only thing i might find handy is the resto staff for pvp rapid regen spam .
Even won't be useful for dungeons as most good healers never run out of magicka.
So that's kind of a silly point, if you've geared up and done all the trials, dungeons, pledges, gotten the monster sets, do well in pvp, and have been able to beat vMSA what exactly do you want a gold item that's going to lower your gear value by for?
What do you mean crafted with monster sets? 5 piece Julianos or Twice Born Star set + 2 piece monster set does not make a crafted weapon part of a bonus set. I am currently using a gold Staff of Torugs with a precise trait resto staff. How is that better than a gold master weapon resto staff when I am currently using gold 5 piece Julianos set+ Engine Guardian?That is why master weapons are very useful. Again like I said, NO end game gear should be only obtained through solo game play in a Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
For example
Best magicka templar dps set
5x julianos
4x magnus
Or
5x julianos
3x magnus
1x kena
Swap julianos for kragneracs hope and you have a great dungeon healer setup.
Stamplar or stam nb
Hundings rage x5
Night mothers gaze x4
Or
5x hundings
3x sentry
1x kena
Sorc setup
5x julianos
2x kena
2x torugs
Etc etc
All of the absolutely top notch builds, that have been used by many many players to beat the hardest content in the game, or be used and successful in pvp (and many other builds similar) have no master weapons.
To actually make use of a master weapon you have to have a build focused around it, as in tailor your other items, skills and rotations to purely factor in that one weapon.
But even without these master weapons, templars can heal through any end gsme content, sorcs have hit 56k dps, even templars have hit 36k dps (both magicka) and nb's and dks can be one shot hero's in pvp.
LOL
What's there to laugh he's right. You really think a small 146 spell damage difference is gamebreaking?
And yes 146 spell damage difference that's about what the math comes down to compared to the usual nirnhoned staff.
A couple hundred CP can even top that.
Only the best of the best player can run this arena with min/max builds.
All others should go for more sustain first which will make it way way easier.
Nah they'd rather QQ more.
I've heard people complain they get two shot, then I look and notice they have like 11k hp ffs, very experienced players can make glass cannon builds work, but more regen will keep you alive, I'm more of a regen based build anyway, I get around 2.3k magicka back every 2 seconds with channeled focus up.
So regardless of what's happening in the arena, at any point in time i switch to my back bar, pop healing ward, pop harness magicka and take a breather to look at the arena and see what's going on.
My very first time in arena I actually made a post on here, i got to round 4 with 2 deaths, no sigils., and was confused as to why it was so damm difficult compared to why people were saying normal is easy.
I left, and noticed I was in vet lol, so decided to try normal, faceroll ed it, went back to vet and only got stuck at round 7, in total after about 30 mins I had to log off, but I'm genuinely suprised so much QQ on here, when a templar in vr15 purple gear (just vr16 swords) could get that far easily.2 -
I have competed it 50+ times with 6 different toons and for me it gets easier every time i do it. Stamina is so much harder imo, quite a few adds have 1 shot mechanics for melee players. On my stam NB i switched to a bow to keep my distance from them, is it a dps loss over WB spam? Yes, duh. You can not expect to use the same tactics/skills in all the stages, try experimenting with different load outs if you are having trouble.
In my experience if anything needs a nerf its stamina set items. I currently have 22 hunt rings, 14 parabellum rings,11 glory rings and every stam weapon in precise and sharpened. In comparison i have yet to see a fire staff of any trait, winterborn/succession jewelry and a frost staff that is not defending (ive gotten 7). Even on no death runs with my sorcs i will get a stamina weapon, and im still sad about the 6 daggers i got from the last weekly.Hells Bell___________________Highelf Sorc
D-Argo______________________Orc DK
Orici Adria__________________Breton Templar
Primortial Erubus____________Woodelf NB
Vortas______________________Darkelf Sorc
Quickly-Kills-for-Skooma_____Khajiit NB1 -
pronkg✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.
Yet the best endgame gear is crafted with monster sets. So what exactly do you need? The only thing i might find handy is the resto staff for pvp rapid regen spam .
Even won't be useful for dungeons as most good healers never run out of magicka.
So that's kind of a silly point, if you've geared up and done all the trials, dungeons, pledges, gotten the monster sets, do well in pvp, and have been able to beat vMSA what exactly do you want a gold item that's going to lower your gear value by for?
What do you mean crafted with monster sets? 5 piece Julianos or Twice Born Star set + 2 piece monster set does not make a crafted weapon part of a bonus set. I am currently using a gold Staff of Torugs with a precise trait resto staff. How is that better than a gold master weapon resto staff when I am currently using gold 5 piece Julianos set+ Engine Guardian?That is why master weapons are very useful. Again like I said, NO end game gear should be only obtained through solo game play in a Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
For example
Best magicka templar dps set
5x julianos
4x magnus
Or
5x julianos
3x magnus
1x kena
Swap julianos for kragneracs hope and you have a great dungeon healer setup.
Stamplar or stam nb
Hundings rage x5
Night mothers gaze x4
Or
5x hundings
3x sentry
1x kena
Sorc setup
5x julianos
2x kena
2x torugs
Etc etc
All of the absolutely top notch builds, that have been used by many many players to beat the hardest content in the game, or be used and successful in pvp (and many other builds similar) have no master weapons.
To actually make use of a master weapon you have to have a build focused around it, as in tailor your other items, skills and rotations to purely factor in that one weapon.
But even without these master weapons, templars can heal through any end gsme content, sorcs have hit 56k dps, even templars have hit 36k dps (both magicka) and nb's and dks can be one shot hero's in pvp.
LOL
What's there to laugh he's right. You really think a small 146 spell damage difference is gamebreaking?
And yes 146 spell damage difference that's about what the math comes down to compared to the usual nirnhoned staff.
A couple hundred CP can even top that.
Only the best of the best player can run this arena with min/max builds.
All others should go for more sustain first which will make it way way easier.
Nah they'd rather QQ more.
I've heard people complain they get two shot, then I look and notice they have like 11k hp ffs, very experienced players can make glass cannon builds work, but more regen will keep you alive, I'm more of a regen based build anyway, I get around 2.3k magicka back every 2 seconds with channeled focus up.
So regardless of what's happening in the arena, at any point in time i switch to my back bar, pop healing ward, pop harness magicka and take a breather to look at the arena and see what's going on.
My very first time in arena I actually made a post on here, i got to round 4 with 2 deaths, no sigils., and was confused as to why it was so damm difficult compared to why people were saying normal is easy.
I left, and noticed I was in vet lol, so decided to try normal, faceroll ed it, went back to vet and only got stuck at round 7, in total after about 30 mins I had to log off, but I'm genuinely suprised so much QQ on here, when a templar in vr15 purple gear (just vr16 swords) could get that far easily.
Ikr
I mean I originally finished this with my sorc using a summon and engine guardian, Not kidding.
I had some advice from guildm8s and been running better and better everytime.
Meanwhile I'm using my own experimental build which seems to do really well and it's more focussed on regen rather than dps
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Heindrich✭✭✭✭✭
lol its so true and they keep saying leave this content for us we need something challenging but they're not even contributing and cant offer proper feedback cos they can't even beat it. i blame zos for listening to all these skyrim online players they are the ones ruining the game with their nonsensevMA is a piece of idiotic content, if it at least was a DUOarena, but nah, you have to sit in there for 1-2h SOLO in a MMO. Goood Job ZOS, prolly those that asked for solocontent cant even complete this stuff LOL.
Next QQ inc will be the new trial next year, because the amount of noobs I see in Orsinium knows no ends and I am sure they all want to do the new trial, it will be a f...mess!!!! Gonna be guuuud.
I'm getting real sick of comments like this. Seriously. Yes we know this is an MMO. That doesn't mean that every piece of content should be designed with you and your zerg or your group of BFFs in mind to complete. Sometimes you just want to log on and play your character alone doing something mindless without the need to socialize. Do you realize that MSA was probably some of the easiest content in this game to create for them? It's literally 9 rooms and a few waves of mobs. 95%+ of the total hours spent creating the Osrinium DLC were not spent on MSA. It's a minor piece of the entire DLC that has nothing like it anywhere else and you guys go on an on about it like ZoS is doing nothing for anyone else.
It's quite obvious that they're designing content for *all* kinds of players. PvPers, RPers, Zergers, Small group players and soloers. Hardcore *and* casual players. So just because a piece of content was created that doesn't cater to your specific preference comes out doesn't mean that you can come here and start insulting the players who it was created for.
I was carried through AA once. I haven't touched Hell Ra. I haven't Touched Sanctum Ophidia. I was carried through vDSA once. I've never once said or felt a single negative thing about them spending far more time designing those instances and the various rewards players got from them that I never saw. I only beat the two I did for the skillpoints TBH. I just enjoy the content that they create that I enjoy and hope to see more in future.
MSA was not a "Flop". MSA in my opinion is a pretty amazing piece of content, horde of bugs and flaws and all, that should be included in every MMO. ZoS should be taking notes so that the next piece of similar content addresses all the issues this one had. I think most decent players are able to complete it on Normal mode, and it gives the hardcore players something to strive for in Veteran mode. I think they should create similar content at least once a year going forward. Despite being a player who has spent 95%+ of his time PvPing in this game, if I had to choose between one of the two DLCs and lose access to the other, I'd choose Osrinium because of MSA hands down.
+1 Finally some common sense on this forum
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Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't want it nerfed. Just balanced. I realize what ZoS has said about the numbers but I just can't believe that they have really dug in and found that stamina builds, especially stamplars, are completing this content in significant numbers. Perhaps I am a fool but in talking with scores of guildmates, most decent players in their own right, there seems to be a large gap between classes. A few friends that are completing it regularly on multiple classes, have given up trying on their stamplars. In their own words, "it's just not worth the headache right now on that class."0 -
Nifty2g✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't use either of thoseJustice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.Justice31st wrote: »I like how people who can't beat Nifty's scores are arguing with him. If an experienced PVEer such as himself says it's a bad arena, and the only ones arguing it's not are the same 5 people on every thread, maybe it's an issue.
^This. Trolls have been out lately. People claiming that their needs to be content for solo players is fine. However, end game gear only obtained by soloing should not be included in an MMO.
Yet the best endgame gear is crafted with monster sets. So what exactly do you need? The only thing i might find handy is the resto staff for pvp rapid regen spam .
Even won't be useful for dungeons as most good healers never run out of magicka.
So that's kind of a silly point, if you've geared up and done all the trials, dungeons, pledges, gotten the monster sets, do well in pvp, and have been able to beat vMSA what exactly do you want a gold item that's going to lower your gear value by for?
What do you mean crafted with monster sets? 5 piece Julianos or Twice Born Star set + 2 piece monster set does not make a crafted weapon part of a bonus set. I am currently using a gold Staff of Torugs with a precise trait resto staff. How is that better than a gold master weapon resto staff when I am currently using gold 5 piece Julianos set+ Engine Guardian?That is why master weapons are very useful. Again like I said, NO end game gear should be only obtained through solo game play in a Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
For example
Best magicka templar dps set
5x julianos
4x magnus
Or
5x julianos
3x magnus
1x kena
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pronkg✭✭✭✭Callous2208 wrote: »I don't want it nerfed. Just balanced. I realize what ZoS has said about the numbers but I just can't believe that they have really dug in and found that stamina builds, especially stamplars, are completing this content in significant numbers. Perhaps I am a fool but in talking with scores of guildmates, most decent players in their own right, there seems to be a large gap between classes. A few friends that are completing it regularly on multiple classes, have given up trying on their stamplars. In their own words, "it's just not worth the headache right now on that class."
What you want is a class and racial balance
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