WRX wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Zavus wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Zavus wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.

I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.

l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.

-Meff

Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.

Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).

And yeah I've played magicka this whole time until what, the past 15 days? Im playing stam for a few reason.
1. So i dont play an alt.
2. With CP cap. its more viable to be Stam as it takes double the ammount of cp to bring magicka on par with stam.
3. Crit Rush and Wrecking blow.
4. 12.5m AoE execute spin to win makes impulse look like the *** uncle in the family.

Even though it's not optimal in the current meta, the goblin shout dawnbreakers will forever be remembered. One would think wrobel would be tweaking the cp trees so magicka points aren't as spread and so physical mitigation is on par with what you can get with magicka mit, but we shall see.

For the thread at hand, there are a few exceptions, but I'd venture to say that all of the 'good' emps people instantly think of are good pvpers with a good group behind them.

One noteworthy emp I remember is (trip? think it was him?) running a massive barrier every few seconds while we fought his group on top of a tower and literally couldn't get the health bars to move. Healers usually make sub par emps because they cant do the dmg other emps can, but man those barriers...

Yeah, it was him, and the barriers were crazy.

Im almost positive that Havoc came back for the dethrone (like 20 strong) after not playing for 2 months. Was the last time Deci got to fight them. Was a party though lol.. Gos, Havok, Daniel, VE, K-hole, Deci, others, all fighting over Roe.

One of the most fun emp holds ever, too bad the game couldn't handle it.

Haha not 2 months, we were playing everyday then, but was def one of our last lead Anon or rhm groups. We had about 15-20 but people were just coming and going with all the crashes and lag. It was nice with all the old names. We would flag it, kill you guys and the pugs would lag repair and it would unflag. We would kill the pugs, then you guys would lag repair and it would unflag. There were times we would fight and it was so laggy I was impulsing invisible people that I knew were there but the game couldnt handle it hahaha. Sad part is it made like 10 people wonder why they were playing this lag infested game, and go play other games. Imagine if that was a "main" campaign with that lag. Or how much more fun that would of been in 1.5. How was that even fun lol?

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.

Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.

Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.

The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.

I actually dont have a bone to pick with GoS or any personal issue with them. I can engage any of the players I know there just fine and have no issue with them. However, whenever I visit there GoS is pretty much demonstrating the poorest level of gameplay and excuse all of their actions with 'well, theres a lot of AD on the server therefore <X>' - its a poor guise of excuses. Its not to same most other guilds dont do the same - I just used to hold them to a higher account, because they have done the same for themselves before.

Essentially you have verified what I asked and assumed given what I fought the other night - the emperor was a charity case. Does this 'make a good emperor' or 'how it should be crowned'? In my opinion, it does not - I respect your opinion is different though. You just said it should not be who you christen thus, and you just said you pushed for them (picked who you wanted from your group). Pretty much emperor is given and rotated by the choice of the most successful large group running around killing stuff during primetime for their faction.

So to reiterate to the OP - this does not make a good emperor. A good emperor is someone that is a well rounded PvPer that makes significant impact with the title in any given fight. A poor emperor is someone that wont even fight a single person with 2 others by their side and is hiding on a keep wall behind guards after being crowned at 3AM by a 20man group that will run down the only 2-3 active players on the server with the full 20. If you take offense to this @Rylana , i really cant help that - its just how it is. Its not even meant to be offensive, its just a recount of the Cyrodiil you choose and want. If you want to change it, feel free to set an example to other players. But dont tell me Im being judgemental because you disagree with me. The reality is - FENGRUSH is always judging, he is THE Lord and judge.

I don't have the time to hardly play any more (though hopefully I'll get to dust off my maces and crush sweetrolls) but I'm not really sure what your point is here Fengrush. I respect the notion you're making here that an Emperor should be a good/great pvp'er. I think the requirement is a bit more than that though, and I think it can be broader as well. Firstly, it requires that you have ridiculous amounts of time to play the game, in some cases it means you need to have a computer screen set up across from your toilet with a hot plate next to you. I'll be honest I'm impressed by the dedication but I'm not entirely sure its healthy to do that. The time requirement is a big part of the equation, and needs to be stated. There are plenty of great pvp'ers out there who will literally never become Emperor because they have children, jobs, or schoolwork. I think people need to put their ego at the door about this, because in many cases its not something worth bragging about. The second issue is that many emperors have come out of being strategic thinkers and team playing leaders. I would not classify these people as being bad pvp'ers, they just aren't a lightning buzzsaw like you. A solid Templar who happens to be a strong healer and does his job well and leads multiple raid groups to victory might deserve the title. What gives you the right to say otherwise? Just because Templar is a sub par class in Cyrodiil doesn't mean those players should never get the shot. I know people who left the game between this egotistical nonsense and ZoS' failure to balance the classes. I also know people who are actually your friends who quit playing Templar because they got tired of this nonsense. I'm not entirely sure the Emperor should be a diva and a glory hound. About the only thing I can agree on is that I think they should earn it, and be good. Beyond that I really think the focus on DPS as the only answer has been damaging to the game, and will continue to harm the game unless they do something about it.

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.

Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.

Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.

The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.

I actually dont have a bone to pick with GoS or any personal issue with them. I can engage any of the players I know there just fine and have no issue with them. However, whenever I visit there GoS is pretty much demonstrating the poorest level of gameplay and excuse all of their actions with 'well, theres a lot of AD on the server therefore <X>' - its a poor guise of excuses. Its not to same most other guilds dont do the same - I just used to hold them to a higher account, because they have done the same for themselves before.

Essentially you have verified what I asked and assumed given what I fought the other night - the emperor was a charity case. Does this 'make a good emperor' or 'how it should be crowned'? In my opinion, it does not - I respect your opinion is different though. You just said it should not be who you christen thus, and you just said you pushed for them (picked who you wanted from your group). Pretty much emperor is given and rotated by the choice of the most successful large group running around killing stuff during primetime for their faction.

So to reiterate to the OP - this does not make a good emperor. A good emperor is someone that is a well rounded PvPer that makes significant impact with the title in any given fight. A poor emperor is someone that wont even fight a single person with 2 others by their side and is hiding on a keep wall behind guards after being crowned at 3AM by a 20man group that will run down the only 2-3 active players on the server with the full 20. If you take offense to this @Rylana , i really cant help that - its just how it is. Its not even meant to be offensive, its just a recount of the Cyrodiil you choose and want. If you want to change it, feel free to set an example to other players. But dont tell me Im being judgemental because you disagree with me. The reality is - FENGRUSH is always judging, he is THE Lord and judge.

I don't have the time to hardly play any more (though hopefully I'll get to dust off my maces and crush sweetrolls) but I'm not really sure what your point is here Fengrush. I respect the notion you're making here that an Emperor should be a good/great pvp'er. I think the requirement is a bit more than that though, and I think it can be broader as well. Firstly, it requires that you have ridiculous amounts of time to play the game, in some cases it means you need to have a computer screen set up across from your toilet with a hot plate next to you. I'll be honest I'm impressed by the dedication but I'm not entirely sure its healthy to do that. The time requirement is a big part of the equation, and needs to be stated. There are plenty of great pvp'ers out there who will literally never become Emperor because they have children, jobs, or schoolwork. I think people need to put their ego at the door about this, because in many cases its not something worth bragging about. The second issue is that many emperors have come out of being strategic thinkers and team playing leaders. I would not classify these people as being bad pvp'ers, they just aren't a lightning buzzsaw like you. A solid Templar who happens to be a strong healer and does his job well and leads multiple raid groups to victory might deserve the title. What gives you the right to say otherwise? Just because Templar is a sub par class in Cyrodiil doesn't mean those players should never get the shot. I know people who left the game between this egotistical nonsense and ZoS' failure to balance the classes. I also know people who are actually your friends who quit playing Templar because they got tired of this nonsense. I'm not entirely sure the Emperor should be a diva and a glory hound. About the only thing I can agree on is that I think they should earn it, and be good. Beyond that I really think the focus on DPS as the only answer has been damaging to the game, and will continue to harm the game unless they do something about it.

Templars are awesome! Id be quite shocked to actually kill an emperor templar given the healing and health pool you get. Then again, the emperor did indeed die..

Youre right about needing time - thats why I cant chase emp really. Ive done it when I either had a day off or just simply took vacation time from work, because outside of the first day theres no way to keep up unless youre pouring in lots of hours. Given how packed primetime is and ball groups cleaning up AP on primetime as theyre really battling each other - its also tough to keep up in that respect.

The question was just about what makes a good emp, not really who gets emp. Other have already answered the question better than I have though, and given examples. Someone that makes an extremely relevant impact on the battlefield. No offense in my example, though it may be well earned, does it make a good emp? Nope. Is it insulting? Sorry if it is - but you dont have to be good to get emp, that isnt a secret to anyone. Just trying to shed some light on the OP. A good emp is a wrecking ball.

With all of that said, this patch probably makes emps the weakest of any given lower burst meta. In former patches, emps could do a lot more than they do now. I think thats probably a good thing though for Cyro in total - because really good players as emps could annihilate quite capable groups.

Zheg wrote: »

Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.

As for gos, you can respect the streamers all you want, but just the fact that you're in a group eliminates any real chance of it being reciprocated, especially when the ego is as gigantic as the 'lord'. I'm honestly not sure if they understand the desire to help crown a friend, regardless of whether the crown can be held or whether they are the absolute best player. I'm not trying to be mean here, but I legitimately wonder if not playing with people every night just completely changes your perspective. Only child syndrome or something like that - but eso's version?

Right now emp is awarded to a subset of people who play the longest, not the most skilled. It is what it is, and emp has always been more drama than it's worth. EDIT: it's not to say the two aren't mutually exclusive though, sometimes the skilled players are in that subset.

Agreed. I actually like playing both ways: Solo and in a Group, and I can see the point of both sides to some extent. I think the Lone Wolves out there forget why people are in an MMORPG and for some reason feel like they should rambo and army. They might defeat much larger groups sometimes, but honestly I laugh at their tears when they get defeated by an army of players. What do they expect will happen? Part of the game is working with your faction to win. The whole AoE debate for instance makes me laugh. If it were up to me there would be no limits -and- friendly fire. It works in first person shooters why can't it work in an MMO? (Because no one has ever done it before, and people freak out about it) Players would have to become truly skillful, accurate, and need to be far more strategic with aoe attacks. Doesn't anyone else find it preposterous that I throw down caltrops and then commence to dance around amongst them? By necessity people would start to use single target attacks a lot more, and save their aoes for blocking a breach or guarding a flag.

I do think the point @Etaniel made earlier is logical as well. Emperors are like ESO's version of SWG's Jedi. Although I'll take it a step further and say I think its best if the Emperor is flanked by a couple of skilled friends. Some of the most annoying groups I've had to deal with are a team of 3-5 players, one of whom is Emperor. The Bat Swarm DK's are still seared in my memory. Chains-Talons-Talons-Talons, Whip Whip, Batswarm Talons talons. It was brutal. One guy doing this is one thing, but when you had 3-5 doing this with something like 50% ultimate reduction it was a nightmare. A lot of the problems with this are gone but it won't be forgotten. The truth of the matter is a small but skilled Emperor group is probably better than just sending him solo.

I'm pretty happy they've said they're going to have an Arena because ultimately a lot of the soloists will get their opportunity to shine, without having to feel like they are the special snowflake in the faction war.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.

Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.

Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.

The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.

I actually dont have a bone to pick with GoS or any personal issue with them. I can engage any of the players I know there just fine and have no issue with them. However, whenever I visit there GoS is pretty much demonstrating the poorest level of gameplay and excuse all of their actions with 'well, theres a lot of AD on the server therefore <X>' - its a poor guise of excuses. Its not to same most other guilds dont do the same - I just used to hold them to a higher account, because they have done the same for themselves before.

Essentially you have verified what I asked and assumed given what I fought the other night - the emperor was a charity case. Does this 'make a good emperor' or 'how it should be crowned'? In my opinion, it does not - I respect your opinion is different though. You just said it should not be who you christen thus, and you just said you pushed for them (picked who you wanted from your group). Pretty much emperor is given and rotated by the choice of the most successful large group running around killing stuff during primetime for their faction.

So to reiterate to the OP - this does not make a good emperor. A good emperor is someone that is a well rounded PvPer that makes significant impact with the title in any given fight. A poor emperor is someone that wont even fight a single person with 2 others by their side and is hiding on a keep wall behind guards after being crowned at 3AM by a 20man group that will run down the only 2-3 active players on the server with the full 20. If you take offense to this @Rylana , i really cant help that - its just how it is. Its not even meant to be offensive, its just a recount of the Cyrodiil you choose and want. If you want to change it, feel free to set an example to other players. But dont tell me Im being judgemental because you disagree with me. The reality is - FENGRUSH is always judging, he is THE Lord and judge.

I don't have the time to hardly play any more (though hopefully I'll get to dust off my maces and crush sweetrolls) but I'm not really sure what your point is here Fengrush. I respect the notion you're making here that an Emperor should be a good/great pvp'er. I think the requirement is a bit more than that though, and I think it can be broader as well. Firstly, it requires that you have ridiculous amounts of time to play the game, in some cases it means you need to have a computer screen set up across from your toilet with a hot plate next to you. I'll be honest I'm impressed by the dedication but I'm not entirely sure its healthy to do that. The time requirement is a big part of the equation, and needs to be stated. There are plenty of great pvp'ers out there who will literally never become Emperor because they have children, jobs, or schoolwork. I think people need to put their ego at the door about this, because in many cases its not something worth bragging about. The second issue is that many emperors have come out of being strategic thinkers and team playing leaders. I would not classify these people as being bad pvp'ers, they just aren't a lightning buzzsaw like you. A solid Templar who happens to be a strong healer and does his job well and leads multiple raid groups to victory might deserve the title. What gives you the right to say otherwise? Just because Templar is a sub par class in Cyrodiil doesn't mean those players should never get the shot. I know people who left the game between this egotistical nonsense and ZoS' failure to balance the classes. I also know people who are actually your friends who quit playing Templar because they got tired of this nonsense. I'm not entirely sure the Emperor should be a diva and a glory hound. About the only thing I can agree on is that I think they should earn it, and be good. Beyond that I really think the focus on DPS as the only answer has been damaging to the game, and will continue to harm the game unless they do something about it.

Templars are awesome! Id be quite shocked to actually kill an emperor templar given the healing and health pool you get. Then again, the emperor did indeed die..

Youre right about needing time - thats why I cant chase emp really. Ive done it when I either had a day off or just simply took vacation time from work, because outside of the first day theres no way to keep up unless youre pouring in lots of hours. Given how packed primetime is and ball groups cleaning up AP on primetime as theyre really battling each other - its also tough to keep up in that respect.

The question was just about what makes a good emp, not really who gets emp. Other have already answered the question better than I have though, and given examples. Someone that makes an extremely relevant impact on the battlefield. No offense in my example, though it may be well earned, does it make a good emp? Nope. Is it insulting? Sorry if it is - but you dont have to be good to get emp, that isnt a secret to anyone. Just trying to shed some light on the OP. A good emp is a wrecking ball.

With all of that said, this patch probably makes emps the weakest of any given lower burst meta. In former patches, emps could do a lot more than they do now. I think thats probably a good thing though for Cyro in total - because really good players as emps could annihilate quite capable groups.

I know about the time issue. I've come close a couple times but unless you're charging out the gate and you happen to have a faction who is on fire, its not going to happen. A little bit of it is a crap shoot, which is why I just make pvp about fun. I personally think that instead of Emperor they should have done something like "Ayrenn's Champion", "Jorunn's Champion" and "Emeric's Champion". It makes more sense thematically since no one really holds Cyrodiil for a month it seems like. I'd hardly call that being Emperor.

In terms of Templar a HEALING Templar is pretty awesome yes, although given the way in which the game has developed my money is on any other class beating them, all other things being equal. The class is just too sluggish, has poor cc and once you know what you are looking for they are pretty easy to exploit. Even among good healing Templars I find that they are just a speedbump to a strong player of another class. The Templar is slow to kill which is nice if he has friends to back him but if his opponent is the one that brings friends he's done. Well placed fears, stuns, etc will wipe him out, even if he is an Emperor. I think other classes currently get much better use out of Emperor. I'm only bringing it up because I've seen people on zone chats more than once complaining about Templar Emperors. In the DK-Bats & Sorc-Bats era it was for obvious reasons, but there has definitely been an anti-Templar bias for a long time against their being Emperor.

frozywozy wrote: »

Zavus wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

"A good emperor" is subjective. Many people want different things, and their thoughts and opinions will all differ.

The first time anyone is emperor they will probably not perform to their peak. It takes a few hours of play to really get the feel for your power level and what you can - and can't get away with.

I'm going to take a few examples of past emperors who have been emperor a few times and give you my thoughts on them with a subjective "goodness" level:

• Methuselah ( @Zavus posts for him) - He's a power house of damage, though tends towards the same combinations (that are very effective). He will kill you in 2 seconds solo or in group if the timing is right. His opponents fear him, and most seem to respect him. He is not very map focused (based on where we see him go unless his last keep is threatened), and will usually play for the points rather than the map. I believe that he's a good emp.
• Mojican ( @manny254 ) - He's also a powerhouse of damage, and if you're in the way of his jabs, you're dead. Period. His opponents fear him, and many hate him (lots of hate whispers). He tends to balance map and points, which is tough to do. I believe that he's a good emp.
• Lolimage ( don't know his forums @ name) - He inspires the troops, and with this being his first campaign as emperor (I dropped campaign for him to stay ahead of me) he has grown a lot as a player and learned a lot about being emperor. He plays for the map and campaign, and tends not to focus on AP farming. The most notable thing about Loli is that people love him and want to help him accomplish map/campaign goals. I believe that he's the best emp (for winning the campaign) that I've known to date.
• Alma Ruma ( don't know her forums @ name) - She seems to be loved by part and hated by part of her own faction. She is not a solo / small group player (which some people judge her for), and SEEMS to run a build that is group oriented (tornado spam). Her tornadoes hit hard, though in a group of 20 other players spamming the same, I'm not sure that her extra power really stands out. I can't speak to her inspiring her faction or strategy, though with the amount of drama this reset between a few DC guilds it's unlikely (having a few DC chime in here would be good) that she's a riving force for DC. I believe that she's a good emp for her guild/group, though for the faction overall I can't judge.
• Crown ( me ) - I AM THE BLEEPING CROWN AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY CROWNZERG! All joking aside, I try my best to manage / direct the actions of my faction in the best interest of the map and campaign - even if I would much rather be AP farming! My play is usually group oriented, though I solo/duo a lot too. Most people in the campaign seem to respect my leadership, though as we saw last month with the real life death threats, there are some who do not. I believe that I'm a good emperor, though I'm sure some disagree.

In my opinion, what makes a good emperor is the ability to inspire your faction, help direct and manage taking (or maintaining) control of the map, and of course do a LOT of damage to win fights where your opponents outnumber you significantly. Being emperor is a lot of fun, though sometimes it just gets stressful and feels more like a job than a game.

EDIT: Fixed typo.

I Agree, and would aslo say I'm not a very good emp because recently I dont talk in Zone about objectives where our grp is going because EP on Azuras are 95% some of the juiciest pugs to farm. And you can quote me on that.

They may be the juciest pugs to farm, they still have a very efficient organization and coordination and could learn alot from experienced guilds. Unfortunetly, they have to learn everything by themselves and I do my best to inspire and train them everyday. Just wish more beta players would do the same and care for them, for the faction. Those players have huge potential. They just need some general guidance and recommendations.

I like your attitude. I'm all for rivalry and all, but it is kind of fun to have enemies that you love to hate, and hate to love. Certain enemies just make the game more fun, and you get to know them. I think if people are playing with the right attitude they can have a good time, just like watching a UCLA vs. USC football game. Its fun to watch a game with my friends that went to UCLA, but at the end of the day they are still my friends, even if they are rooting for the wrong team. :P I much prefer dealing with people like that, than with a belligerent toxic foulmouthed blowhard with an overdeveloped sense of self that probably needs to get cut down a few sizes. Look, I'm not speaking at anyone directly, but everyone can fall into this trap. Even people I like who stream *** me off because they go too far. Its easy to do, we're all human. I'm just saying its best to take a step back and chill. The best fun is when you have a friendly rivalry with your enemies. If it feels more like a friendly game of basketball with your friends, then you're doing it right.

Emperor...the most unimportant 'occupation' in this game.
The Title should be changed to Chief AP Farmer. It would be more apt.
So the best Emperor is when there is no emperor at all.

so much nerd e-peen in this thread.