Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.
Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.
Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.
Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.
Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.
Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.
Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)
Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.
Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.
Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.
Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.
Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.
Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.
Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.
Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)
Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.
Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?
Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.
Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.
Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.
Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.
Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.
Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.
Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.
Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)
Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.
Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?
Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.
Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.
Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.
The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.
Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.
Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.
Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.
Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.
Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.
Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.
Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)
Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.
Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?
Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.
Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.
Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.
The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.
Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.
To me a good emp is somekind of godmode dude/dudette running around in Cyrodil, being a pain to his enemies and an actual threat tp bigger groups on his own.
A good emp is capable of leaving his group to go solo defend a keep on the other side of the map while his group is being useful somewhere else.
An emp playing in a 20 man group has less of an impact than a solo emp in my opinion. The whole point of the emperor buff is that you can be strong alone. If you're gonna use the emp in a 20 man group, you might as well just make a 25 man group and you'll have the same result.
I've seen emps run out to kill 20 siegers while his 20 man group speed repairs the walls, much more efficient than everyone running in one single ball group.
Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.
I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.
l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.
-Meff
Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.
I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.
l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.
-Meff
Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.
Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).
Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.
As for gos, you can respect the streamers all you want, but just the fact that you're in a group eliminates any real chance of it being reciprocated, especially when the ego is as gigantic as the 'lord'. I'm honestly not sure if they understand the desire to help crown a friend, regardless of whether the crown can be held or whether they are the absolute best player. I'm not trying to be mean here, but I legitimately wonder if not playing with people every night just completely changes your perspective. Only child syndrome or something like that - but eso's version?
Right now emp is awarded to a subset of people who play the longest, not the most skilled. It is what it is, and emp has always been more drama than it's worth. EDIT: it's not to say the two aren't mutually exclusive though, sometimes the skilled players are in that subset.
What are the qualities that make an Emperor effective? Is it build, zone leadership, time commitment? Why do we love/ hate certain Emps?
Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.
I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.
l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.
-Meff
Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.
Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).
I agree emp seige is...powerfull. But I've heard people say its too powerfull. And alls I'm saying is there are at least 3 things to negate it. Then its pretty much usless and going in for bombs with your skills is better.
Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.
I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.
l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.
-Meff
Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.
Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).
"A good emperor" is subjective. Many people want different things, and their thoughts and opinions will all differ.
The first time anyone is emperor they will probably not perform to their peak. It takes a few hours of play to really get the feel for your power level and what you can - and can't get away with.
I'm going to take a few examples of past emperors who have been emperor a few times and give you my thoughts on them with a subjective "goodness" level:
- Methuselah ( @Zavus posts for him) - He's a power house of damage, though tends towards the same combinations (that are very effective). He will kill you in 2 seconds solo or in group if the timing is right. His opponents fear him, and most seem to respect him. He is not very map focused (based on where we see him go unless his last keep is threatened), and will usually play for the points rather than the map. I believe that he's a good emp.
- Mojican ( @manny254 ) - He's also a powerhouse of damage, and if you're in the way of his jabs, you're dead. Period. His opponents fear him, and many hate him (lots of hate whispers). He tends to balance map and points, which is tough to do. I believe that he's a good emp.
- Lolimage ( don't know his forums @ name) - He inspires the troops, and with this being his first campaign as emperor (I dropped campaign for him to stay ahead of me) he has grown a lot as a player and learned a lot about being emperor. He plays for the map and campaign, and tends not to focus on AP farming. The most notable thing about Loli is that people love him and want to help him accomplish map/campaign goals. I believe that he's the best emp (for winning the campaign) that I've known to date.
- Alma Ruma ( don't know her forums @ name) - She seems to be loved by part and hated by part of her own faction. She is not a solo / small group player (which some people judge her for), and SEEMS to run a build that is group oriented (tornado spam). Her tornadoes hit hard, though in a group of 20 other players spamming the same, I'm not sure that her extra power really stands out. I can't speak to her inspiring her faction or strategy, though with the amount of drama this reset between a few DC guilds it's unlikely (having a few DC chime in here would be good) that she's a riving force for DC. I believe that she's a good emp for her guild/group, though for the faction overall I can't judge.
- Crown ( me ) - I AM THE BLEEPING CROWN AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY CROWNZERG! All joking aside, I try my best to manage / direct the actions of my faction in the best interest of the map and campaign - even if I would much rather be AP farming! My play is usually group oriented, though I solo/duo a lot too. Most people in the campaign seem to respect my leadership, though as we saw last month with the real life death threats, there are some who do not. I believe that I'm a good emperor, though I'm sure some disagree.
In my opinion, what makes a good emperor is the ability to inspire your faction, help direct and manage taking (or maintaining) control of the map, and of course do a LOT of damage to win fights where your opponents outnumber you significantly. Being emperor is a lot of fun, though sometimes it just gets stressful and feels more like a job than a game.
EDIT: Fixed typo.

"A good emperor" is subjective. Many people want different things, and their thoughts and opinions will all differ.
The first time anyone is emperor they will probably not perform to their peak. It takes a few hours of play to really get the feel for your power level and what you can - and can't get away with.
I'm going to take a few examples of past emperors who have been emperor a few times and give you my thoughts on them with a subjective "goodness" level:
- Methuselah ( @Zavus posts for him) - He's a power house of damage, though tends towards the same combinations (that are very effective). He will kill you in 2 seconds solo or in group if the timing is right. His opponents fear him, and most seem to respect him. He is not very map focused (based on where we see him go unless his last keep is threatened), and will usually play for the points rather than the map. I believe that he's a good emp.
- Mojican ( @manny254 ) - He's also a powerhouse of damage, and if you're in the way of his jabs, you're dead. Period. His opponents fear him, and many hate him (lots of hate whispers). He tends to balance map and points, which is tough to do. I believe that he's a good emp.
- Lolimage ( don't know his forums @ name) - He inspires the troops, and with this being his first campaign as emperor (I dropped campaign for him to stay ahead of me) he has grown a lot as a player and learned a lot about being emperor. He plays for the map and campaign, and tends not to focus on AP farming. The most notable thing about Loli is that people love him and want to help him accomplish map/campaign goals. I believe that he's the best emp (for winning the campaign) that I've known to date.
- Alma Ruma ( don't know her forums @ name) - She seems to be loved by part and hated by part of her own faction. She is not a solo / small group player (which some people judge her for), and SEEMS to run a build that is group oriented (tornado spam). Her tornadoes hit hard, though in a group of 20 other players spamming the same, I'm not sure that her extra power really stands out. I can't speak to her inspiring her faction or strategy, though with the amount of drama this reset between a few DC guilds it's unlikely (having a few DC chime in here would be good) that she's a riving force for DC. I believe that she's a good emp for her guild/group, though for the faction overall I can't judge.
- Crown ( me ) - I AM THE BLEEPING CROWN AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY CROWNZERG! All joking aside, I try my best to manage / direct the actions of my faction in the best interest of the map and campaign - even if I would much rather be AP farming! My play is usually group oriented, though I solo/duo a lot too. Most people in the campaign seem to respect my leadership, though as we saw last month with the real life death threats, there are some who do not. I believe that I'm a good emperor, though I'm sure some disagree.
In my opinion, what makes a good emperor is the ability to inspire your faction, help direct and manage taking (or maintaining) control of the map, and of course do a LOT of damage to win fights where your opponents outnumber you significantly. Being emperor is a lot of fun, though sometimes it just gets stressful and feels more like a job than a game.
EDIT: Fixed typo.
Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.
Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.
Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.
Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.
Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.
Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.
Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)
Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.