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What makes a good Emperor

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What are the qualities that make an Emperor effective? Is it build, zone leadership, time commitment? Why do we love/ hate certain Emps?
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    AOE spam. It's all I ever see Emperors doing. Get AP to become emp. Get emp for more AP.
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  • Rylana
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    Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

    Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


    Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

    Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

    Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

    Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

    Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

    Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.
    Edited by Rylana on December 16, 2015 2:17PM
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

    Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


    Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

    Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

    Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

    Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

    Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

    Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

    Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


    Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.
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  • Rylana
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

    Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


    Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

    Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

    Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

    Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

    Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

    Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

    Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


    Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.

    Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.

    Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.

    The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.
    Edited by Rylana on December 16, 2015 3:03PM
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    Rylana wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

    Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


    Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

    Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

    Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

    Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

    Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

    Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

    Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


    Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.

    Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.

    Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.

    The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.

    Been wondering this same exact thing for a long time. Zaz shows him a lot of respect, along with other solo players, by telling us to ignore him when we're moving between objectives, but yet he spews hate for GoS around every corner.

    What is it that you want @FENGRUSH ? Why all the hate? We show you respect, why can't you show us respect?
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  • FENGRUSH
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    Rylana wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

    Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


    Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

    Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

    Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

    Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

    Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

    Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

    Is that why the emp EP had on haderus couldnt fight 1v3 (the 3 being the emp + 2 NBs). He was a really nice guy with a great group build or something probably? But when it comes to actually playing the game outside of jamming down breath of life he probably wasnt of much value?


    Id rather see the most skilled players get emp - they generally have a strong impact for their faction utilizing it.. not to mention, they probably deserved it more. Not sure if you were doing a charity event or something on there, but outside of having better ult regen, that emp looked like an absolute waste.

    Well with the way the leaderboards stood at the time they were crowned, it was either her (a first timer) or me (an already three timer), so I pushed for them.

    Its sorta how it goes, mister judgemental. Unless you say someones good, they are bad, right? Our haderus emp is an amazing group player, so why pick on them because they dont match your playstyle eh? So tired of your bone to pick with GoS. Every damn time you talk about us its the saltiest crap I have ever seen on the forums or on your stream.

    The players that work well with others are the most deserving. Not someone you christen thus. The most deserving are certainly not the self serving.

    I actually dont have a bone to pick with GoS or any personal issue with them. I can engage any of the players I know there just fine and have no issue with them. However, whenever I visit there GoS is pretty much demonstrating the poorest level of gameplay and excuse all of their actions with 'well, theres a lot of AD on the server therefore <X>' - its a poor guise of excuses. Its not to same most other guilds dont do the same - I just used to hold them to a higher account, because they have done the same for themselves before.

    Essentially you have verified what I asked and assumed given what I fought the other night - the emperor was a charity case. Does this 'make a good emperor' or 'how it should be crowned'? In my opinion, it does not - I respect your opinion is different though. You just said it should not be who you christen thus, and you just said you pushed for them (picked who you wanted from your group). Pretty much emperor is given and rotated by the choice of the most successful large group running around killing stuff during primetime for their faction.

    So to reiterate to the OP - this does not make a good emperor. A good emperor is someone that is a well rounded PvPer that makes significant impact with the title in any given fight. A poor emperor is someone that wont even fight a single person with 2 others by their side and is hiding on a keep wall behind guards after being crowned at 3AM by a 20man group that will run down the only 2-3 active players on the server with the full 20. If you take offense to this @Rylana , i really cant help that - its just how it is. Its not even meant to be offensive, its just a recount of the Cyrodiil you choose and want. If you want to change it, feel free to set an example to other players. But dont tell me Im being judgemental because you disagree with me. The reality is - FENGRUSH is always judging, he is THE Lord and judge.
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    My emp must:
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    Be able to outplay opponents with their skillful placement of BoL.
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    To me a good emp is somekind of godmode dude/dudette running around in Cyrodil, being a pain to his enemies and an actual threat tp bigger groups on his own.
    A good emp is capable of leaving his group to go solo defend a keep on the other side of the map while his group is being useful somewhere else.
    An emp playing in a 20 man group has less of an impact than a solo emp in my opinion. The whole point of the emperor buff is that you can be strong alone. If you're gonna use the emp in a 20 man group, you might as well just make a 25 man group and you'll have the same result.

    I've seen emps run out to kill 20 siegers while his 20 man group speed repairs the walls, much more efficient than everyone running in one single ball group.
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    I play on xbox where I know for a fact an entire guild made a conscious choice to avoid all Emp keeps because someone who wasn't in their guild was top of the leaderboard.

    They did this for well over a week.

    Emperor is politics coupled with someone having the most time to heal and repair.
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    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.

    As for gos, you can respect the streamers all you want, but just the fact that you're in a group eliminates any real chance of it being reciprocated, especially when the ego is as gigantic as the 'lord'. I'm honestly not sure if they understand the desire to help crown a friend, regardless of whether the crown can be held or whether they are the absolute best player. I'm not trying to be mean here, but I legitimately wonder if not playing with people every night just completely changes your perspective. Only child syndrome or something like that - but eso's version?

    Right now emp is awarded to a subset of people who play the longest, not the most skilled. It is what it is, and emp has always been more drama than it's worth. EDIT: it's not to say the two aren't mutually exclusive though, sometimes the skilled players are in that subset.
    Edited by Zheg on December 16, 2015 5:17PM
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.


    I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.

    l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.

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    Edited by Zavus on December 16, 2015 5:00PM
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    To me a good emp is somekind of godmode dude/dudette running around in Cyrodil, being a pain to his enemies and an actual threat tp bigger groups on his own.
    A good emp is capable of leaving his group to go solo defend a keep on the other side of the map while his group is being useful somewhere else.
    An emp playing in a 20 man group has less of an impact than a solo emp in my opinion. The whole point of the emperor buff is that you can be strong alone. If you're gonna use the emp in a 20 man group, you might as well just make a 25 man group and you'll have the same result.

    I've seen emps run out to kill 20 siegers while his 20 man group speed repairs the walls, much more efficient than everyone running in one single ball group.

    Any decent group can take out a solo emp though. I honestly can't remember the last time an emp pushed out solo and was able to stop our siege. The threat always comes with a coordinated emp burst in a group. Either a magicka emp gets a heavy bomb with ult and prox det and the group finishes off with their dmg, or a groups bomb goes off and the emp ult and steel tornado annihilates what's left. The most efficient way to use an emp IMO is to have backup to focus on cc so the emp can just blow people up with well timed burst.
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    Zavus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.


    I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.

    l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.

    -Meff

    Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.

    Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).
    Edited by Zheg on December 16, 2015 5:13PM
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Zavus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.


    I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.

    l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.

    -Meff

    Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.

    Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).

    I agree emp seige is...powerfull. But I've heard people say its too powerfull. And alls I'm saying is there are at least 3 things to negate it. Then its pretty much usless and going in for bombs with your skills is better.
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.

    As for gos, you can respect the streamers all you want, but just the fact that you're in a group eliminates any real chance of it being reciprocated, especially when the ego is as gigantic as the 'lord'. I'm honestly not sure if they understand the desire to help crown a friend, regardless of whether the crown can be held or whether they are the absolute best player. I'm not trying to be mean here, but I legitimately wonder if not playing with people every night just completely changes your perspective. Only child syndrome or something like that - but eso's version?

    Right now emp is awarded to a subset of people who play the longest, not the most skilled. It is what it is, and emp has always been more drama than it's worth. EDIT: it's not to say the two aren't mutually exclusive though, sometimes the skilled players are in that subset.

    It looks like you dont watch the stream at all or youd see Lord FENGRUSH is often grouped leading members of the covenant into glorious battle. Im not trying to be mean here, but I legitimately wonder if you were actually replying to my comment about an emp hiding with 2 others on a keep spamming ranged attacks or just attacking a streamer you dont like because its in your nature to disagree with anything he says. Ive grouped with members of your guild in small scale PVP as well, and theyd verify that your viewpoint on FENGRUSH and other streamers is misguided and untrue. But you seem to be a bit consumed with your disdain for Lords and their eminence.
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    ataggs wrote: »
    What are the qualities that make an Emperor effective? Is it build, zone leadership, time commitment? Why do we love/ hate certain Emps?

    I prefer Emps who:

    1. Are honorable. No ridiculous teabagging or trolling, no cheating or exploiting
    2. Are helpful to their faction, as opposed to just being out for solo glory.
    3. Actively try and defend their emperorship when possible (meaning no, I don't expect anyone to stay awake 24/7. I think the current state of the game that essentially requires someone to not be able to sleep in order to get crowned and stay emp is ridiculous)
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    Zavus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Zavus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.


    I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.

    l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.

    -Meff

    Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.

    Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).

    I agree emp seige is...powerfull. But I've heard people say its too powerfull. And alls I'm saying is there are at least 3 things to negate it. Then its pretty much usless and going in for bombs with your skills is better.

    Aye, im not in that camp (though very much believ the incoming siege changes will make this a big problem if emp dmg stacks). I'd assume the frustration comes in when it's a clusterfluff and multiple siege rings and hard to tell which is the whammy. I usually run a siege shield when steve is leading and we need heals instead of speed. Though, we'll see, groups might need to be running 3 siege shields in 2016... Will be a wildly different meta when 2 oil catapults wipe healers stamina out.
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    "A good emperor" is subjective. Many people want different things, and their thoughts and opinions will all differ.

    The first time anyone is emperor they will probably not perform to their peak. It takes a few hours of play to really get the feel for your power level and what you can - and can't get away with.

    I'm going to take a few examples of past emperors who have been emperor a few times and give you my thoughts on them with a subjective "goodness" level:
    • Methuselah ( @Zavus posts for him) - He's a power house of damage, though tends towards the same combinations (that are very effective). He will kill you in 2 seconds solo or in group if the timing is right. His opponents fear him, and most seem to respect him. He is not very map focused (based on where we see him go unless his last keep is threatened), and will usually play for the points rather than the map. I believe that he's a good emp.
    • Mojican ( @manny254 ) - He's also a powerhouse of damage, and if you're in the way of his jabs, you're dead. Period. His opponents fear him, and many hate him (lots of hate whispers). He tends to balance map and points, which is tough to do. I believe that he's a good emp.
    • Lolimage ( don't know his forums @ name) - He inspires the troops, and with this being his first campaign as emperor (I dropped campaign for him to stay ahead of me) he has grown a lot as a player and learned a lot about being emperor. He plays for the map and campaign, and tends not to focus on AP farming. The most notable thing about Loli is that people love him and want to help him accomplish map/campaign goals. I believe that he's the best emp (for winning the campaign) that I've known to date.
    • Alma Ruma ( don't know her forums @ name) - She seems to be loved by part and hated by part of her own faction. She is not a solo / small group player (which some people judge her for), and SEEMS to run a build that is group oriented (tornado spam). Her tornadoes hit hard, though in a group of 20 other players spamming the same, I'm not sure that her extra power really stands out. I can't speak to her inspiring her faction or strategy, though with the amount of drama this reset between a few DC guilds it's unlikely (having a few DC chime in here would be good) that she's a driving force for DC. I believe that she's a good emp for her guild/group, though for the faction overall I can't judge.
    • Crown ( me ) - I AM THE BLEEPING CROWN AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY CROWNZERG! All joking aside, I try my best to manage / direct the actions of my faction in the best interest of the map and campaign - even if I would much rather be AP farming! My play is usually group oriented, though I solo/duo a lot too. Most people in the campaign seem to respect my leadership, though as we saw last month with the real life death threats, there are some who do not. I believe that I'm a good emperor, though I'm sure some disagree.

    In my opinion, what makes a good emperor is the ability to inspire your faction, help direct and manage taking (or maintaining) control of the map, and of course do a LOT of damage to win fights where your opponents outnumber you significantly. Being emperor is a lot of fun, though sometimes it just gets stressful and feels more like a job than a game.

    EDIT: Fixed typo.
    Edited by Crown on December 17, 2015 2:36AM
    Crown | AD NB | First AD/NA Grand Overlord (2015/12/26)
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  • Zavus
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Zavus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Right now emps should just be on cold stone trebs until the siege dmg bug is fixed.


    I thought the same thing. until some players did some other things which led to certain things being bleh. That said. If players do certain things emp seige is fine vs other players. It actually makes seige usefull. havent seen so many oils kills since ground oils.

    l2p and emp seige wont be as bad. im not going to tell u what these things are though.

    -Meff

    Don't automatically assume sarcasm and jabs because of guild. I legitimately meant that emps should be on siege right now with how much dmg it does. No need to be defensive.

    Youre well established as a dangerous emp for the purposes of this thread's OP, on siege or off, magicka or stam (though I still fear the magicka sorc more).

    And yeah I've played magicka this whole time until what, the past 15 days? Im playing stam for a few reason.
    1. So i dont play an alt.
    2. With CP cap. its more viable to be Stam as it takes double the ammount of cp to bring magicka on par with stam.
    3. Crit Rush and Wrecking blow.
    4. 12.5m AoE execute spin to win makes impulse look like the *** uncle in the family.
    Zavus - Worst NB NA / First NB RANK 50
    "Most carried General NA" - Cent Satori

    Haxus

  • Turtl3Lov3
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    Crown wrote: »
    "A good emperor" is subjective. Many people want different things, and their thoughts and opinions will all differ.

    The first time anyone is emperor they will probably not perform to their peak. It takes a few hours of play to really get the feel for your power level and what you can - and can't get away with.

    I'm going to take a few examples of past emperors who have been emperor a few times and give you my thoughts on them with a subjective "goodness" level:
    • Methuselah ( @Zavus posts for him) - He's a power house of damage, though tends towards the same combinations (that are very effective). He will kill you in 2 seconds solo or in group if the timing is right. His opponents fear him, and most seem to respect him. He is not very map focused (based on where we see him go unless his last keep is threatened), and will usually play for the points rather than the map. I believe that he's a good emp.
    • Mojican ( @manny254 ) - He's also a powerhouse of damage, and if you're in the way of his jabs, you're dead. Period. His opponents fear him, and many hate him (lots of hate whispers). He tends to balance map and points, which is tough to do. I believe that he's a good emp.
    • Lolimage ( don't know his forums @ name) - He inspires the troops, and with this being his first campaign as emperor (I dropped campaign for him to stay ahead of me) he has grown a lot as a player and learned a lot about being emperor. He plays for the map and campaign, and tends not to focus on AP farming. The most notable thing about Loli is that people love him and want to help him accomplish map/campaign goals. I believe that he's the best emp (for winning the campaign) that I've known to date.
    • Alma Ruma ( don't know her forums @ name) - She seems to be loved by part and hated by part of her own faction. She is not a solo / small group player (which some people judge her for), and SEEMS to run a build that is group oriented (tornado spam). Her tornadoes hit hard, though in a group of 20 other players spamming the same, I'm not sure that her extra power really stands out. I can't speak to her inspiring her faction or strategy, though with the amount of drama this reset between a few DC guilds it's unlikely (having a few DC chime in here would be good) that she's a riving force for DC. I believe that she's a good emp for her guild/group, though for the faction overall I can't judge.
    • Crown ( me ) - I AM THE BLEEPING CROWN AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY CROWNZERG! All joking aside, I try my best to manage / direct the actions of my faction in the best interest of the map and campaign - even if I would much rather be AP farming! My play is usually group oriented, though I solo/duo a lot too. Most people in the campaign seem to respect my leadership, though as we saw last month with the real life death threats, there are some who do not. I believe that I'm a good emperor, though I'm sure some disagree.

    In my opinion, what makes a good emperor is the ability to inspire your faction, help direct and manage taking (or maintaining) control of the map, and of course do a LOT of damage to win fights where your opponents outnumber you significantly. Being emperor is a lot of fun, though sometimes it just gets stressful and feels more like a job than a game.

    EDIT: Fixed typo.

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    Crown wrote: »
    "A good emperor" is subjective. Many people want different things, and their thoughts and opinions will all differ.

    The first time anyone is emperor they will probably not perform to their peak. It takes a few hours of play to really get the feel for your power level and what you can - and can't get away with.

    I'm going to take a few examples of past emperors who have been emperor a few times and give you my thoughts on them with a subjective "goodness" level:
    • Methuselah ( @Zavus posts for him) - He's a power house of damage, though tends towards the same combinations (that are very effective). He will kill you in 2 seconds solo or in group if the timing is right. His opponents fear him, and most seem to respect him. He is not very map focused (based on where we see him go unless his last keep is threatened), and will usually play for the points rather than the map. I believe that he's a good emp.
    • Mojican ( @manny254 ) - He's also a powerhouse of damage, and if you're in the way of his jabs, you're dead. Period. His opponents fear him, and many hate him (lots of hate whispers). He tends to balance map and points, which is tough to do. I believe that he's a good emp.
    • Lolimage ( don't know his forums @ name) - He inspires the troops, and with this being his first campaign as emperor (I dropped campaign for him to stay ahead of me) he has grown a lot as a player and learned a lot about being emperor. He plays for the map and campaign, and tends not to focus on AP farming. The most notable thing about Loli is that people love him and want to help him accomplish map/campaign goals. I believe that he's the best emp (for winning the campaign) that I've known to date.
    • Alma Ruma ( don't know her forums @ name) - She seems to be loved by part and hated by part of her own faction. She is not a solo / small group player (which some people judge her for), and SEEMS to run a build that is group oriented (tornado spam). Her tornadoes hit hard, though in a group of 20 other players spamming the same, I'm not sure that her extra power really stands out. I can't speak to her inspiring her faction or strategy, though with the amount of drama this reset between a few DC guilds it's unlikely (having a few DC chime in here would be good) that she's a riving force for DC. I believe that she's a good emp for her guild/group, though for the faction overall I can't judge.
    • Crown ( me ) - I AM THE BLEEPING CROWN AND YOU WILL FEEL THE WRATH OF MY CROWNZERG! All joking aside, I try my best to manage / direct the actions of my faction in the best interest of the map and campaign - even if I would much rather be AP farming! My play is usually group oriented, though I solo/duo a lot too. Most people in the campaign seem to respect my leadership, though as we saw last month with the real life death threats, there are some who do not. I believe that I'm a good emperor, though I'm sure some disagree.

    In my opinion, what makes a good emperor is the ability to inspire your faction, help direct and manage taking (or maintaining) control of the map, and of course do a LOT of damage to win fights where your opponents outnumber you significantly. Being emperor is a lot of fun, though sometimes it just gets stressful and feels more like a job than a game.

    EDIT: Fixed typo.

    I Agree, and would aslo say I'm not a very good emp because recently I dont talk in Zone about objectives where our grp is going because EP on Azuras are 95% some of the juiciest pugs to farm. And you can quote me on that.
    Zavus - Worst NB NA / First NB RANK 50
    "Most carried General NA" - Cent Satori

    Haxus

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    A good emperor/empress gives there troops instant cup raman noodles every night around the base camp fire.
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    Crank the damage, use proxy det, let others steel tornado.

    And for the love of god, use ******* barrier if you are playing in a group larger than 16 or even really 12.

    Your super cool bats might be great, but a 35k shield on everyone in group is better, and you'll get bats up too because of the ulti return.
    Decibel GM

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    Rylana wrote: »
    Not being a single target gank and run nightblade is a good start.

    Complete waste of a factions efforts, imo.


    Edit to add - if youre a solo player, dont even bother, it just pisses people off when you cockblock the leaderboard for someone useful.

    Id much rather someone with or without an ego (and/or bad attitude to go with it) that actually has the build or group to do something on the map than an egotard that just wants to wtfpwnz some bads in 1v1 honor duelz or ganks. Even the nicest guy thats really just a stealth and run type, or wants to make videos/streams of his 1vX and duels, is useless as hell to objectives/power gaming for the faction.

    Also, if youre just gonna stand there holding block, never die, but kill absolutely no one? Get out.

    Moral of the story - emperors should never be gankers/soloers/call of duty headshot heroes. Tanks are also worthless. Damage is all an emp should ever be interested in, ESPECIALLY AoE damage. They dont need any sustain whatsoever, thats built in. Raw unadulterated wreckage.

    Ideally? An AoE damage dealing machine that can rip through multiple enemies, not die to anyone solo or even up to three decent opponents (or two really good ones). has a group spec, and actually wants to work towards the factions goals (winning, killing all the things, map position, not being a suck, actually being on the campaign during their reign, not being bad, not being bad, and most importantly not being bad)

    Basic premise? Damage, AoE, be a group player. Period.

    Your posts are always funny, but this one really stands out.

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    Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU
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