Dear ZOS: Trolling isn't a "mechanic."

Phinix1 · November 2015

People may give me flak for complaining about the environmental critters "mechanic" ZOS has chosen to leave in the game since beta, where abilities will magically be drawn to any critter within range regardless of the direction you are facing or whether there is an enemy two feet in front of you that you are actually aiming at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shWAJ2Q2wFk

Apparently some people seem to think that anyone with constructive criticism must necessarily be bashing the game or something, and feel the need to get all defensive. Honestly, I am just beginning to see a pattern here with some of ZOS's design decisions and find myself asking simply and repeatedly, "why?"

For example, tonight I decided to run Old Orsinium. Nothing too terribly difficult, even with the Marauders chaining unblockable vines and hags chain resurrecting them. CC for the win I guess. But wait, lets loot all these urns because hey, there might be an Ancient Orc motif in one of them ya know?

"So hey, you know what would be really cute and fun? How about a cloud of flesh flies over every single urn you are trying to loot!"

Really? OK, there is simply no other reason to do that except to troll!

This leads me again to ask, does ZOS actually think people find annoyances, inconveniences, and quality of life niggles to be cute and entertaining? Or do they really just hate us and want us to suffer?

Personally, I don't think my online gaming time should be a constant boot camp lesson in Zen transcendentalism. The bugs are bad enough for that. Yet go to the bank and what do we have? Pet monkeys that should never have been allowed in banks or near crafting stations as far as the eye can see, making that ghastly gasping noise that was scientifically engineered in Dr. Wily's lab to grate on your nerves. It is like the quick inhale before someone does something incredibly troll-like!

You just know that behind every pixel pet that people claim is just so cool because they showed up for a free beta, is a sociopath in training that KNOWS it annoys the hell out of people, has their own sound effects turned off, and leaves it out at the bank for the express purpose of trolling others.

So many little things, you really have to wonder. Why are we devoting so many resources to finding ways to annoy and enable the annoying of other players instead of fixing combat lag and 10 month+ issues like the no-leader bug, the guild bank doesn't display contents until 5 loads bug, the load screen message cycles after 0.5 seconds bug, and other classics?

I won't even get into public dungeon bosses that somehow get to spam the DK leap ultimate, because reasons.

Run into a troll-friendly mechanic in your travels and find yourself wondering, why? Share your totally calm, non-mad, emotionless Vulcan experiences here!

(P.S. This post was made (mostly) in jest. But really you do have to wonder about some of this.)

Malmai · November 2015

Its true they should fix this, also targeting system sucks...

Turelus · November 2015

Let's be honest, the bunny rabbit probably deserved the meteor...

Asmael · November 2015

It's definitely a L2P issue.

The game knows better: you should kill that 1 HP rat before handling the guy about to WB your face! You're just bad at prioritizing things

DeanTheCat · November 2015

Turelus wrote: »

Let's be honest, the bunny rabbit probably deserved the meteor...

@Turelus

I'll just leave this here.

http://youtu.be/pmu5sRIizdw

willymchilybily · November 2015

i actually find this happens to me most on my sorcerer. my NB/Bow never seems to stray to a nearby critter. sorcerers just like killing innocent harmless animals to fulfill there need for a daily blood sacrafices

Kaliki · November 2015

Or when you are standing behind an NPC, want to loot a vase just in front of your nose but end up talking with the NPC 3 times.

Rune_Relic · November 2015

It is annoying when you are about to hit something from stealth ..break cover...then hear the innocent death screams of a lowly creature. While you stand there thinking what the hell just happened.....10 NPCs immediately open fire on your arse.

*** happens in real life. Perhaps that's the idea ? lol
Perhaps we should be treated to a face palm screen rather than a short perfect assassination video to follow.
Because we all know when the menu pops up randomly in the middle of battle its so awesome.

/shrugs /giggles

Tankqull · November 2015

another nice part of this and the target system entirely is hitting targets behind the char because the reticle is placed a few stebs behind the character for the "awesome" over shoulder camera effect everyone is trying to get rid off anyway :P

ssewallb14_ESO · November 2015

Those moments in vMA stage 5 when the targeting system prioritizes anything but the troll trying to break the ice that I'm very clearly pointing my cursor at. Quite literally a troll mechanic.

I_killed_Vivec · November 2015

Annoying to think you're going to sprint 20 meters and ram your shield into someone's face... only to hit the snake you didn't see in the grass in front of him

SHADOW2KK · November 2015

I utterly despise the followers, the ones on quests who constantly get in my way, and disgruntle me to a epic level while I am trying to loot shizzle, yes let me just stand in front of you so you have to talk to me at least 2 times before you get your urn...........

I have always hated followers in the TeS games, although they were not as bad as the utter idiots in Gothic3, who take the most direct route through a unsecured area and aggro half the planet.

And the targetting bug that again others have said, I do an ambush on a rat or something instead of my intended target, when it was not there a min ago....

The clouds of flies in Orsinium strategically placed almost at every set of urns.

I mean come on Zos, little things like this might not mean much to you or some people, but they can be incredibly annoying.

And what the hell is with the guild bank bug where it takes sometimes, repeated attempts to get in, and its constantly scanning data, display the damned items faster, its its whole purpose in life lol.

And once when I was using meteor a lot, I meteored a bloody skeever!!!, the targetting switched from a mob to a skeever, a mile away from my target, what is that about????

I do have other rants, but these will do for now:P

Hehe

Ruben · November 2015

This sucks, but it's also the reason I started to use tab targeting... and it has helped me a lot!

Draxys · November 2015

The targeting system is extremely poor. Any time a guard or any NPC is even remotely near your crosshair, that's all you will be able to target. Good luck being able to see the name of a player who is within 50 metres of the guard.

When you are in combat, and there is a critter near one of your enemies, the system will almost always end up targeting the critter. It absolutely does feel like a developer troll and it seems petty but it's actually caused quite some frustration over 2 years of them not fixing it.

Critters need to be targeted through the tab system only. If a solution could be found for the guards that would be awesome, whether it's a matter of target priority or something, or just removing them from the targeting system completely if you have attacking innocents off.

TequilaFire · November 2015

Remind me to get my monkey back out.

Lenikus · November 2015

L2P.
Or even better,
L2 Target Lock.

Dear · November 2015

*blushes* I...like the sounds my monkey makes... It's so cute.. ;____;'''

Yolokin_Swagonborn · November 2015

Or they could scrap this new targeting system that NOBODY asked for or wanted and go back to the old one.

Moonshadow66 · November 2015

Last time I complained about the critter targeting, an "ambassador" popped in and told me I should aim better! This only comes from people who haven't much experience in combat, I guess.
Anyways, I totally agree with your post, there are too many annoyances which should be fixed since day one, and even more that were added afterwards!

UltimaJoe777 · November 2015

Bugs get in my way all the time. Definitely annoying but whuddyagunnado?

Islyn · November 2015

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

And the targetting bug that again others have said, I do an ambush on a rat or something instead of my intended target, when it was not there a min ago....

It's true though because I do NOT remember targeting all sorts of weird stuff EVER before I took a break and have actually been taken aback at how many times it's happened lately...

I actually envision my character looking at her staff, shakes it, bangs it on the palm of her other hand with this WTF? look on her face...

MrDerrikk · November 2015

Dear wrote: »

*blushes* I...like the sounds my monkey makes... It's so cute.. ;____;'''

I first thought you said you liked the noise of the wild monkeys Dying, as that was what I got from the above discission

MrDerrikk · November 2015

I often have problems where I use Entropy on some random critter in the area instead of the mob I was aiming at, but at least this means that I can start again as I haven't gotten aggro yet. I haven't lost a meteor to a critter yet, so can't empathise as much (yet0...

i3ig_Gun · November 2015

Turelus wrote: »

Let's be honest, the bunny rabbit probably deserved the meteor...

lolololol!

It did.... HAHAHAHAHA I love seeing this happen

I yellout "YEAH, Take It!

baratron · November 2015

Yes, targeting in this game does suck. I actually have to use an addon because I play 5 out 6 characters as "honest" and I kept accidentally stealing because it's the same button to do everything!

Aoife32001 · November 2015

I can't count the number of rats I have killed while being charged by a horde of bloodthirsty monsters

Korah_Eaglecry · November 2015

Phinix1 wrote: »

People may give me flak for complaining about the environmental critters "mechanic" ZOS has chosen to leave in the game since beta, where abilities will magically be drawn to any critter within range regardless of the direction you are facing or whether there is an enemy two feet in front of you that you are actually aiming at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shWAJ2Q2wFk

Apparently some people seem to think that anyone with constructive criticism must necessarily be bashing the game or something, and feel the need to get all defensive. Honestly, I am just beginning to see a pattern here with some of ZOS's design decisions and find myself asking simply and repeatedly, "why?"

For example, tonight I decided to run Old Orsinium. Nothing too terribly difficult, even with the Marauders chaining unblockable vines and hags chain resurrecting them. CC for the win I guess. But wait, lets loot all these urns because hey, there might be an Ancient Orc motif in one of them ya know?

"So hey, you know what would be really cute and fun? How about a cloud of flesh flies over every single urn you are trying to loot!"

Really? OK, there is simply no other reason to do that except to troll!

This leads me again to ask, does ZOS actually think people find annoyances, inconveniences, and quality of life niggles to be cute and entertaining? Or do they really just hate us and want us to suffer?

Personally, I don't think my online gaming time should be a constant boot camp lesson in Zen transcendentalism. The bugs are bad enough for that. Yet go to the bank and what do we have? Pet monkeys that should never have been allowed in banks or near crafting stations as far as the eye can see, making that ghastly gasping noise that was scientifically engineered in Dr. Wily's lab to grate on your nerves. It is like the quick inhale before someone does something incredibly troll-like!

You just know that behind every pixel pet that people claim is just so cool because they showed up for a free beta, is a sociopath in training that KNOWS it annoys the hell out of people, has their own sound effects turned off, and leaves it out at the bank for the express purpose of trolling others.

So many little things, you really have to wonder. Why are we devoting so many resources to finding ways to annoy and enable the annoying of other players instead of fixing combat lag and 10 month+ issues like the no-leader bug, the guild bank doesn't display contents until 5 loads bug, the load screen message cycles after 0.5 seconds bug, and other classics?

I won't even get into public dungeon bosses that somehow get to spam the DK leap ultimate, because reasons.

Run into a troll-friendly mechanic in your travels and find yourself wondering, why? Share your totally calm, non-mad, emotionless Vulcan experiences here!

(P.S. This post was made (mostly) in jest. But really you do have to wonder about some of this.)

I have a similar issue with them placing lootable items against Writ Turn In Boxes. It makes no sense why it would be laying there besides to troll the player (especially when you consider how touchy controllers and such can be when too many prompts are on top of each other). When I complained about this issue back with the game first launched on Console. All the White Knights came out of the wood work to 'L2P' 'Pay attention more noob' my thread into the ground.