40k dps on MAGIKA TEMPLAR

Meshal · November 2015

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I needed, and thought of the skills I should use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps with my MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing, optimization, and training on my part.

here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

blabafat · November 2015

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · November 2015

Care to share your build? My magicka Templar could use some help.

Bfish22090 · November 2015

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

Can he teach you how to play templar?

blabafat · November 2015

Bfish22090 wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

Can he teach you how to play templar?

Probably

Xendyn · November 2015

Nerf Sorc!!

Oh wait, I am a sorc

nvm

Awesome Meshal, do you have any sustain with that?

*sets up the popcorn stand*

Alcast · November 2015

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Saying that this is real dps does literally not really f...matter at all lol. try get 30k on Manti then I WILL BE impressed.

Uriel_Nocturne · November 2015

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Very impressive, OP!

I have a Magicka Templar I've been struggling with.

What Skills were you using (your build), and what sets did you have equipped? What Mundus Stone were you using?

I am highly interested in knowing what made that possible.

Katinas · November 2015

AOE fight of a stationary daedra boss lasting 20 sec. Why should that indicate anything? Oh, and no executioner? Mine ticks for well over your last average 40.511 dps.

BTW, Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor pre-nerf (while healing):

Shame it was 4 sec after engaging that I took screenshot, it was 1.5 million DPS opener.

Colosso-monstro · November 2015

Katinas wrote: »

AOE fight of a stationary daedra boss lasting 20 sec. Why should that indicate anything? Oh, and no executioner? Mine ticks for well over your last average 40.511 dps.

BTW, Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor pre-nerf (while healing):

Shame it was 4 sec after engaging that I took screenshot, it was 1.5 million DPS opener.

He's saying magtemps have good dps, you have an argumentative tone but are proving his theory.

tangy.citrus · November 2015

Its a 20 second parse, there are adds standing on your meteor and in the way of your sweeps. Any half good player can get the same thing with the same team support. At one point, i even seen +6 from your sweeps in the video.

Get a 40k on a crematorial guard in vwgt with no adds, and then you can tell us how great you are and it will be a little more legit then.

In reality, you probably pulled 25-30k single target there. Which is nothing greatly impressive in a 20 second parse with warhorn, and all the correct buffs and debuffs.

DerpyShadowz · November 2015

Katinas wrote: »

AOE fight of a stationary daedra boss lasting 20 sec. Why should that indicate anything? Oh, and no executioner? Mine ticks for well over your last average 40.511 dps.

BTW, Ibomez the Flesh Sculptor pre-nerf (while healing):

Shame it was 4 sec after engaging that I took screenshot, it was 1.5 million DPS opener.

You threw a bomb on some slaves at the start, how does that translate in to a Templar dps thread?

Suru · November 2015

Alcast wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Saying that this is real dps does literally not really f...matter at all lol. try get 30k on Manti then I WILL BE impressed.

Exactly these posts are useless on dps. Bloated with the extra.damage they do on undead. Only real OP parse ive seen was 40k dps.on manti by Senaxu but ofc sorc. Unfortunate people think this.sort of burst matters lol.

Thalmor-Nordmaster · November 2015

@Meshal
Could you please post the build?
Thank you in advance

Smolt · November 2015

Nerf templars. Obviously.

Katinas · November 2015

I Highlander l wrote: »

You threw a bomb on some slaves at the start, how does that translate in to a Templar dps thread?

Exactly.
He is doing AOE dps with all/most possible buffs and quotes it as a 40k magicka templar dps.

Meshal · November 2015

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

thanks, im glad u like it

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Care to share your build? My magicka Templar could use some help.

I would if u guys interested, I'll make a thread later explaining the skills I used. however, I didnt do much testing on it, im sure it can be optimized even more.

Bfish22090 wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

Can he teach you how to play templar?

Im not a good templar player really, even in the video u can see how many times I lost rotation.

Xendyn wrote: »

Nerf Sorc!!

Oh wait, I am a sorc
nvm

Awesome Meshal, do you have any sustain with that?

*sets up the popcorn stand*

yea I didnt have any problems while testing this.

Alcast wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Saying that this is real dps does literally not really f...matter at all lol. try get 30k on Manti then I WILL BE impressed.

really dude? in the sorc thread u were saying sorcs should be nerfed and here u bring mantikora?

i dont know what to say >.<

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Very impressive, OP!

I have a Magicka Templar I've been struggling with.

What Skills were you using (your build), and what sets did you have equipped? What Mundus Stone were you using?

I am highly interested in knowing what made that possible.

maybe i'll post the full build later.

Uriel_Nocturne · November 2015

So much hostility towards the OP...

I just want a good build written out with Skill morphs and good equipment sets to use. My Dual Wield Magicka Templar needs help, and the hostility accomplishes nothing.

Also; no, I will not join someone's channel to watch them play any class. That helps none as I need a list to reference when I'm changing stuff around on my character, and why would I ever want to skip playing to watch someone else play? I also will not pay an exorbitant fee for some of these "guides". Those are all just highway robbery.

Uriel_Nocturne · November 2015

Meshal wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

thanks, im glad u like it

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Care to share your build? My magicka Templar could use some help.

I would if u guys interested, I'll make a thread later explaining the skills I used. however, I didnt do much testing on it, im sure it can be optimized even more.

Bfish22090 wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

Can he teach you how to play templar?

Im not a good templar player really, even in the video u can see how many times I lost rotation.

Xendyn wrote: »

Nerf Sorc!!

Oh wait, I am a sorc
nvm

Awesome Meshal, do you have any sustain with that?

*sets up the popcorn stand*

yea I didnt have any problems while testing this.

Alcast wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Saying that this is real dps does literally not really f...matter at all lol. try get 30k on Manti then I WILL BE impressed.

really dude? in the sorc thread u were saying sorcs should be nerfed and here u bring mantikora?

i dont know what to say >.<

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Very impressive, OP!

I have a Magicka Templar I've been struggling with.

What Skills were you using (your build), and what sets did you have equipped? What Mundus Stone were you using?

I am highly interested in knowing what made that possible.

maybe i'll post the full build later.

I would very much like to see it.

MrGrimey · November 2015

Lol!!! Funny how people have such a different tone from the same exact dps test that was done in the sorc thread

KewaG · November 2015

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

So much hostility towards the OP...

It's because everyone wants to be right and doesn't like when somebody challenges their opinions. It's human nature. Also some of the posters, don't seem to understand the point of the discussion.

Meshal · November 2015

GUYS why so much rant again?

I NEVER said im a good player. I SAID TEMPLARS ARE GOOD DPS, and this VIDEO PROVES IT, and I will repeat what i said in the previews thread.

this kind of dps can be done in any CLASS, it's not an issue of a certain class. it only depends on the group u play with, I WOULD NEVER REACH THIS IF I WAS WITH A DIFFERENT GROUP.

Thalmor-Nordmaster · November 2015

Meshal with these forums you have to make sure to put 100 points in thick skinned on the CP tree.

SirAndy · November 2015

Meshal wrote: »

here is the video

You need more floating numbers!

I can still see parts of the game world in a few places ...

Artjuh90 · November 2015

sad to see many people don't see the point you are trying to make here.
it's a reacting on the 46k dps sorc post.
although sorc can still shield stack and pull this kind of dps ;D

Inig0 · November 2015

I think most of the people making comments in this thread are missing the point.

No this isnt realistic dps
No he couldnt achieve that on manti
No templars arent OP or weak

The whole point of this most was for comparison.

To compare how he can get the same ridiculous dps on his mag temp as he did on his mag sorc under the same conditions. That is what he achieved with this post. He proved that under the same conditions he got 40k+ dps on a mag temp and a mag sorc. Could he or some one else do that with a dk or nb. YES! of coarse.
I dont see why anyone feel they shouldnt to be impressed by that, come on. He got the perfect group to give him all the buffs possible on a great build. Thats not as common as some people think it is. Good job OP.

hrothbern · November 2015

@Meshal ,

Thanks for the good Post and the intention with it !

Thalmor-Nordmaster · November 2015

I think its pretty cool myself. And hey he is having fun isn't that what the spirit of gaming is about?

Cinbri · November 2015

How many times it should be said that Templars extremely weak in PvP, not in PvE. :

Ezareth · November 2015

Meshal wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

thanks, im glad u like it

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Care to share your build? My magicka Templar could use some help.

I would if u guys interested, I'll make a thread later explaining the skills I used. however, I didnt do much testing on it, im sure it can be optimized even more.

Bfish22090 wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

8K sweeps :O i am jealous

nice video

Can he teach you how to play templar?

Im not a good templar player really, even in the video u can see how many times I lost rotation.

Xendyn wrote: »

Nerf Sorc!!

Oh wait, I am a sorc
nvm

Awesome Meshal, do you have any sustain with that?

*sets up the popcorn stand*

yea I didnt have any problems while testing this.

Alcast wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Saying that this is real dps does literally not really f...matter at all lol. try get 30k on Manti then I WILL BE impressed.

really dude? in the sorc thread u were saying sorcs should be nerfed and here u bring mantikora?

i dont know what to say >.<

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Meshal wrote: »

Hello,

first of all I would like to thank Prothy, Region, and Killerbunny for their help. awesome players and great people.

second,

I made a post a couple of days ago, showing 46k dps on my sorc character, and most of the comments were rants, asking for sorc's nerf, or templar buff. I've been saying templar class is great, and is one of the best dps in the game, it's just an issue of players not knowing how to play the class. and also said that templar class has been buffed so many times but they were denying that.

here are some of those comments:

Justice31st wrote: »

Thank you for this. More evidence on why sorcs should be nerfed.

Troneon wrote: »

Sorc OP, nerf Sorc, nerf Overload!!1!!!!!1111111!!

and a LOT more, you can check the thread here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232342/46k-dps/p1

and what really irritated me the most was this comment:

Zinaroth wrote: »

Templars aren't, and never were, the best DPS in the game. They have always been dead last. Overall Templars have been nerfed a bit since the release of the game when you measure them against the other classes. Overall Sorcs have been buffed to the point of absurdity because of the outrage from the sorc community pre 1.6 aka the CP patch. After this patch NB and Sorcs arose from the ashes and have pretty much been OP since then in respective parts of the game. I with Templars had the same amount of people on the forums but they all rerolled very early in the game.

You, the OP, claiming that Templars have ever been the best DPS in this game and that Sorcs are only recieving nerfs, is either a testiment to how you haven't played the game for very long, or lack basic knowledge when it comes to PvE class balance.

Regards, top tier raider from Hodor EU.

because this guy clearly doesnt know what he's talking about, and im not that kind of a person to get into an endless discussion, so I decided to respec my healer templar to dps to prove that templar class isnt bad but GREAT.

now keep in mind, that im not a good templar player, I only play my templar as healer, and never played as dps with templar, but I decided to give it a try. created the sets I need and thought of the skills I use, with few optimization with what I had in mind I did 40k dps on a MAGIKA TEMPLAR, and im sure more experienced and better players would even get better dps because I missed so much on my rotation. and that was the result of only 2 days of testing and optimization on my part.

here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd4VvQ6v5YM

keep in mind I would never reach this kind of dps without the group im running with! they're just great players.

regards,

Very impressive, OP!

I have a Magicka Templar I've been struggling with.

What Skills were you using (your build), and what sets did you have equipped? What Mundus Stone were you using?

I am highly interested in knowing what made that possible.

maybe i'll post the full build later.

Thanks for taking the time and expense required to prove the point that this game is the player and not the class and that people should stop pointing fingers at others for their own failures.

It is pretty evident from the top vMSA scores just how close the balance between the classes is.

Great work!

Sotha_Sil · November 2015

So you did 40K with templar and 46K with sorc. And you are saying it is roughly the same so templar is as OP as sorc ok ? But it's a flawed logic because there is a guy who did 54K DPS as sorc.

It's a 14K diff from your templar DPS and 8K diff from your sorc DPS. And this is quite a difference imo. You said you weren't a good templar player, and that maybe it could be possible to make better DPS on this boss...but without seeing a 'good' templar DPS on this boss and the difference between these results and sorc DPS, HOW IN HELL CAN YOU SAY IF TEMPLAR IS GREAT OR NOT ?