Which Alliance is the most evil?

MrDerrikk · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Turelus wrote: »

I'm upset the poll colours are mismatched.

Aslo DC, I got the feeling AD were more noble here (than in later ages) and RP were just struggling to stay alive/relevant.

Yeah, I didn't know which colors would go where so I put them in randomly and hoped they were right...they weren't.

Skiserony · November 2015

Why is it disturbing Daggerfall got the red color, Aldmeri got the blue color and Ebonheart got theyellow color?

Xantaria · November 2015

Daggerfall Covenant - explain

The blues take all our keeps!

Jitterbug · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

[you know who].

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[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]

pirate3 · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

AD. The clue is in the name. The others at least are alliances - i.e the 'Pact' or the 'Covenant'. The 'Aldmeri Dominion' leaves nobody in any doubt as to who is running that show and what their intentions are.

The thing that annoys me the most about the AD is that it could have been a lot more fun to play through the AD story if they'd gone a bit 'Sith' and hammed up the whole supremacist thing. Instead we get Ayrenn and her mewling anti-racist diatribes. Missed opportunity I think.

CherryCake · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

We are quite racist...

Cously · November 2015

Ebonhart Pact - explain

The bloody Dunmer. They cannot be trusted!

Robo_Hobo · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Robo_Hobo wrote: »

Shadowfen was beyond cruel, but to be fair, the guy wasn't intending to really make Argonians go extinct, just use that as a threat to force the pact to surrender.

That doesn't excuse the cruelness of how some of those soilder's acted though - like that altmer guy who took one of the would-be Argonian mother's eggs and cooked and ate her unborn baby in front of her. Damn right I killed him when I was given the option. That's sadistic.

He was actually a Bosmer (I just did that quest a couple of nights ago) so it makes some sense what with them being so cannibalistic in the first place. He did take it a liiiiitle far though...

Ah was he? I guess that does then, but still.

AlienSlof · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

My main is an undead high elf and evil, so yeah. The racism and 'skin-stealing' is just... ugh. And wood elves. 'Nuff said.

Jura23 · November 2015

There's Argonian tribe which fled to Grathwood after EP was formed. Also there are some Orcish defectors in Auridon. It's pretty obvious AD is meant to be the good guys and other two the bad guys.

Rex-Umbra · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

High Elves can be right pricks some times.

RAGUNAnoOne · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »

Argonians make great shoes

Khajiit make great rugs, even other khajiit agree enough to monopolize on that right

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RAGUNAnoOne · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Also you do know that 2 of the races in AD would eat each other right?

CaptainObvious · November 2015

So apart from the skin stealing and the hatching by the Dominion, and the general racial disdain by the Altmer you have:

Pact: Dunmer Slavers in Shadowfen, additionally a Dunmer wants to enslave the ghosts in Stonefalls. Not to mention two very radical religions. Do what I say or be die (Tribunal: Deshaan) and (Sithis: Grahtwood, SE Shadowfen). Not to mention aiding the racist/extremist element in Auridon.

Covenant: Conscripting the souls of the dead for the war in Stonefalls (Aeylid relic). Genocide: Bleakrock. Genocide: Bal Foyen (either the noncombatant fishermen or the noncombatant refugees die). If you want to bring in outside of content, guess who caused Old Orsinium to become Old Orsinium? Genocide there too. Not to mention Ranser's genocide of the Orcs. Then forced conscription/enslavement of the Dreugh through the Coral Heart (Stonefalls). Lastly, Lady Clarisse Laurent.

So noone is clean

Junkogen · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

CaptainObvious wrote: »

So apart from the skin stealing and the hatching by the Dominion, and the general racial disdain by the Altmer you have:

Pact: Dunmer Slavers in Shadowfen, additionally a Dunmer wants to enslave the ghosts in Stonefalls. Not to mention two very radical religions. Do what I say or be die (Tribunal: Deshaan) and (Sithis: Grahtwood, SE Shadowfen). Not to mention aiding the racist/extremist element in Auridon.

Covenant: Conscripting the souls of the dead for the war in Stonefalls (Aeylid relic). Genocide: Bleakrock. Genocide: Bal Foyen (either the noncombatant fishermen or the noncombatant refugees die). If you want to bring in outside of content, guess who caused Old Orsinium to become Old Orsinium? Genocide there too. Not to mention Ranser's genocide of the Orcs. Then forced conscription/enslavement of the Dreugh through the Coral Heart (Stonefalls). Lastly, Lady Clarisse Laurent.

So noone is clean

Sithis is neither good nor evil. It just is. The void is inescapable.

JD2013 · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Aldmeri Dominion.

Given what occurred in Shadowfen, the Thalmor and their ultimate plan in lore, and they are just racist supremacists.

Glaiceana · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

It's got to be the AD xD I've discussed the topic of the Shadowfen quest elsewhere. But not many people consider how dark that quest is. They are murdering babies. If the argonian were more human looking, or even of it was Nord instead, I'm pretty sure there would be an outrage. Most likely the game would even be banned in some countries, like Germany for instance who has very strict rules about games sold there.
But they get away with it in ESO just because Argonians are seen as just "lizard people"

LadyNalcarya · November 2015

Ebonhart Pact - explain

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Also you do know that 2 of the races in AD would eat each other right?

Well...
Nords completely wiped a whole race and were fighting dunmers all the time. Also they are opressing Reachmen.
Dunmers are slavemasters and daedra worshippers, they practice ritual necromancy, and also they were fighting nords all the time. Oh, and also Morrowind is the only country where you can legally hire an assassin.

Covenant races are not exactly benevolent as well... Who do you think sacked Orsinium? In Daggerfall (old tes game), orcs werent even considered a sentient race btw.
Pretty much every race in eso is "racist" and "evil" to some extent.
And bosmers arent that bad btw, compared to some of the others. Yeah, they have some very weird customs, but its not like they want to conquer everything and eat everyone.

Enodoc · November 2015

I don't think any of them are particularly evil. The AD as an organization has no racial supremacy in this era; it was specifically created as a union of multicultural territories. The racial supremacists in Altmeri lands during this time frame are the Veiled Heritance.

The storyline in Shadowfen makes a good case against the AD, but just as with the DC general in Stonefalls, the AD general in Shadowfen is rogue, operating beyond his alliance's protocols to further his own means.

magnusthorek · November 2015

I clicked the Ebonheart Pact option as soon as the page loaded, before even reading the topic, because all the frustrations I had in my little contact with PvP, reason of what I despise such modality.

After reading and seeing the subject is more a matter of concept and tradition, definitely, Aldmeri Dominion. They are rude, arrogant, selfish, merciless, probably bribers and they've Thalmor. I hate Thalmors since I met them in Skyrim.

Only in this particular matter, Ebonheart Pact is better. C'mon, you have to admit. Summon a giant flaming Bone Colossus to crush your opponent and then summon Daedra to destroy the former after it has gone rogue is pretty bold.

LadyNalcarya · November 2015

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Enodoc wrote: »

I don't think any of them are particularly evil. The AD as an organization has no racial supremacy in this era; it was specifically created as a union of multicultural territories. The racial supremacists in Altmeri lands during this time frame are the Veiled Heritance.

The storyline in Shadowfen makes a good case against the AD, but just as with the DC general in Stonefalls, the AD general in Shadowfen is rogue, operating beyond his alliance's protocols to further his own means.

This.
Also, during Loriasel quest, you meet a khajiiti soldier who tells you where to find that evil aldmeri general and how awful he is. So not everyone in AD would support stuff like this.

Glaiceana · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

@KoshkaMurka Fix your quote above, I wasn't the one who said that

LadyNalcarya · November 2015

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Glaiceana wrote: »

@KoshkaMurka Fix your quote above, I wasn't the one who said that

Fixed. Sorry, it must be some kind of Sheogorath's joke o.O

Daraugh · November 2015

Ebonhart Pact - explain

Enodoc wrote: »

I don't think any of them are particularly evil. The AD as an organization has no racial supremacy in this era; it was specifically created as a union of multicultural territories. The racial supremacists in Altmeri lands during this time frame are the Veiled Heritance.

The storyline in Shadowfen makes a good case against the AD, but just as with the DC general in Stonefalls, the AD general in Shadowfen is rogue, operating beyond his alliance's protocols to further his own means.

I think Molag Bal is doing a good job turning everyone against each other. I admit I clicked EP as a knee jerk reaction to their attempts enslave Argonians, Khajiit and anyone else they can get their unclawed hands on, but neither the Nords or Argonians are evil. The Dunmer just grab center stage it seems.

@Enodoc, do you remember the name of the general? I'm trying to recall the quest because it was pretty horrible and I think I blocked a lot of it out lol.

Valrien · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

Have you played through Shadowfen? They are killing (and possibly eating, I heard someone there talking about omelets) ARGONIAN CHILDREN! Making it so their eggs hatch stillborn. That is the most vile thing I have seen out of any of the alliances.

This is in the EP storyline though, haven't paid attention to what happens elsewhere. The DC there are pretty bad too, right out of Stonefalls they are raiding villages and killing innocent civilians.

Dualrifle · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

AD with that shadowfen stuff...

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

I'm pretty sure the skin stealing and egg defiling are actions not sanctioned by the queen. If she was one to condone those actions, she would have transformed into a monster, just like her brother, when she walked into the Orrey chamber. But instead, she came out her normal self because she was noble and pure.

In war, many commanders can get away with war crimes without their generals and/or government knowing about it.

I think the same can be said about the other alliance leaders. It's commanders in the field that have gone desperate as conventional warfare wasn't winning the war.

Jura23 · November 2015

Other alliances pretty much forced AD to do all the bad stuff. If they just surrendered, non of that would happen. So I blame DC and EP leaders who don't care about their peeps well being.

RAGUNAnoOne · November 2015

Aldmeri Dominion - explain

I haven't completed gold yet and I did skip a few dungeons but I have not heard of one quest involving the pact in any of the other 2 areas, I have seen the dominion in daggerfall and the covenent in AD but I have yet to see the pact in either.

Vyle_Byte · November 2015

None... or all. I say that because I don't think one faction is more evil than another. They all have their downfalls and their bad deeds.