Cannot Complete 'Long Live The King' (Orsinium MQ)

myrrrorb14_ESO · November 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

While I disagree with the stance ZOS have taken with regards to NPC interaction and bounties, it still seems to be the case that, under the current iteration of the Justice System, having a high bounty does not impede quest progress. Therefore the issue the OP is facing is technically a bug.

In this thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/232429/can-not-complete-long-live-the-king-quest-with-4-million-bounty-ps4/p1. Support said to get rid of the bounty and try again. It may or may not be intended. I have not seen a response from a dev on this either way.

Maybe @ZOS_GinaBruno can chime in?

laksikus · November 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

While I disagree with the stance ZOS have taken with regards to NPC interaction and bounties, it still seems to be the case that, under the current iteration of the Justice System, having a high bounty does not impede quest progress. Therefore the issue the OP is facing is technically a bug.

its not. those quests only were made when justice system wasnt there.
Those quest are outdated and should be fixed to Justice system instead.

The argument there are other quests that act that way (installed before JS) and this doesnt (after Justice system) is kind of 2 different things

Xantaria · November 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

You deserve this for playing on console

I'm on PC ... those are not my videos.

Xendyn · November 2015

Well I sent Gina a PM with links to both these threads.

If it isn't supposed to be this way, it needs fixed.
If it is, it needs to be clarified so it's known and people are aware of it.

In a game where there's really no actual long-term consequences for any decision you make, it seems rather inconsistent.

laksikus · November 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

In a game where there's really no actual long-term consequences for any decision you make, it seems rather inconsistent.

there is 1 long term consequence for doing the last mage guild quest xD

myrrrorb14_ESO · November 2015

laksikus wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

In a game where there's really no actual long-term consequences for any decision you make, it seems rather inconsistent.

there is 1 long term consequence for doing the last mage guild quest xD

Not for me

I don't even lose sleep

starlizard70ub17_ESO · November 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah,but if the OP is going for that bounty achievement,he wont get it if he lets the guards kill him.You'll only need to do it once though and you'll be cleared of all bounty.If he isnt going for that achievement,I cant think why he would let himself get that much bounty to begin with!

At 77 million, or even 4 million bounty, they've gone well past any number required for any achievement. They need to take off all armour, to reduce repair costs, let some guard kill them, bounty cleared, problem solved.

Xendyn · November 2015

laksikus wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

In a game where there's really no actual long-term consequences for any decision you make, it seems rather inconsistent.

there is 1 long term consequence for doing the last mage guild quest xD

Not really. It affects nothing in any future interactions, doesn't block any questlines, no further consequences for your choice in any way.

myrrrorb14_ESO · November 2015

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah,but if the OP is going for that bounty achievement,he wont get it if he lets the guards kill him.You'll only need to do it once though and you'll be cleared of all bounty.If he isnt going for that achievement,I cant think why he would let himself get that much bounty to begin with!

At 77 million, or even 4 million bounty, they've gone well past any number required for any achievement. They need to take off all armour, to reduce repair costs, let some guard kill them, bounty cleared, problem solved.

Does that work? I was under the impression that they collected any stolen items and only took gold from your character to pay off (toward) your bounty.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · November 2015

^^ With a bounty in the millions, or even past a few thousand, you're pretty much "kill on sight" by the guards. The few times it happened on my NB, the guards would kill me, I'd lose all stolen items and when I was rezzed, the bounty was cleared. I didn't have the gold to cover my 6k bounty and yet it was cleared with no gold lost when I got killed by the guards.

Enodoc · November 2015

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

let some guard kill them, bounty cleared, problem solved.

Only if they have 77 million gold on them when they're killed. And that's not very likely.

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

^^ With a bounty in the millions, or even past a few thousand, you're pretty much "kill on sight" by the guards. The few times it happened on my NB, the guards would kill me, I'd lose all stolen items and when I was rezzed, the bounty was cleared. I didn't have the gold to cover my 6k bounty and yet it was cleared with no gold lost when I got killed by the guards.

That sounds like a bug.

myrrrorb14_ESO · November 2015

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

^^ With a bounty in the millions, or even past a few thousand, you're pretty much "kill on sight" by the guards. The few times it happened on my NB, the guards would kill me, I'd lose all stolen items and when I was rezzed, the bounty was cleared. I didn't have the gold to cover my 6k bounty and yet it was cleared with no gold lost when I got killed by the guards.

Thanks!

Seems too easy. Time to start planning a great crime spree!

Xantaria · November 2015

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

^^ With a bounty in the millions, or even past a few thousand, you're pretty much "kill on sight" by the guards. The few times it happened on my NB, the guards would kill me, I'd lose all stolen items and when I was rezzed, the bounty was cleared. I didn't have the gold to cover my 6k bounty and yet it was cleared with no gold lost when I got killed by the guards.

Thanks!

Seems too easy. Time to start planning a great crime spree!

this statement is not true. His bounty was cleared with stolen items he had in his inventory probably.

myrrrorb14_ESO · November 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

^^ With a bounty in the millions, or even past a few thousand, you're pretty much "kill on sight" by the guards. The few times it happened on my NB, the guards would kill me, I'd lose all stolen items and when I was rezzed, the bounty was cleared. I didn't have the gold to cover my 6k bounty and yet it was cleared with no gold lost when I got killed by the guards.

Thanks!

Seems too easy. Time to start planning a great crime spree!

this statement is not true. His bounty was cleared with stolen items he had in his inventory probably.

Dangit....

found1779 · November 2015

Hmm no post here either from development I'm surprised this matter needs fixed

Osteos · November 2015

AngryNord wrote: »

If you won't do the time, don't do the crime...

^

Korah_Eaglecry · November 2015

laksikus wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People seem to think that when the justice system was introduced that ZOS didn't think that maybe people might end up with bounties too high to clear and so would not be able to progress through quests. Except they DID. Which is why this is the first time this problem has risen. It's clearly a bug (more of an oversight really). And that is all there is to it.

Would love an official word on this.

if you get a bounty that high its not ZOS fault, its yourselfs.
i dont know why ZOS should fix this as it aint rly a bug.

its nearly the same as if he would say i cant walk past a guard cos my bounty is too high

Its going to impact such a small demographic within the game, either they did it on purpose to cry about it seeing as this is the second thread in as many days or they thought they wouldnt run into consequences eventually for high Bounty, that it makes absolutely no sense to put any sort of logistics towards changing this.

The most simple solution, and its in the hands of the player, would have been to never get your bounty that high. But of course its the games fault and ZOSs fault for the choice of the player. No one ever wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

I have absolutely zero empathy for these players.

Merlin13KAGL · November 2015

Sounds like you've gotten the "murder" thing down.

Might be time to master pickpocket and fencing...

In the standalone's, not only would people not interact with you when your infamy got so high, the entire town would join in to beat the hell out of you when you committed a crime.

You shouldn't expect to be able to progress normally after committing genocide. Why would a character like that suddenly want to advance the rebuilding of Orsinium anyway?

You had no issue acquiring the bounty. Commence to acquiring the gold to pay it off.

found1779 · November 2015

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People seem to think that when the justice system was introduced that ZOS didn't think that maybe people might end up with bounties too high to clear and so would not be able to progress through quests. Except they DID. Which is why this is the first time this problem has risen. It's clearly a bug (more of an oversight really). And that is all there is to it.

Would love an official word on this.

if you get a bounty that high its not ZOS fault, its yourselfs.
i dont know why ZOS should fix this as it aint rly a bug.

its nearly the same as if he would say i cant walk past a guard cos my bounty is too high

Its going to impact such a small demographic within the game, either they did it on purpose to cry about it seeing as this is the second thread in as many days or they thought they wouldnt run into consequences eventually for high Bounty, that it makes absolutely no sense to put any sort of logistics towards changing this.

The most simple solution, and its in the hands of the player, would have been to never get your bounty that high. But of course its the games fault and ZOSs fault for the choice of the player. No one ever wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

I have absolutely zero empathy for these players.

You have zero sympathy for people who just want to play the game the way they want and and should be able to complete a quest with a bounty but can not cause of a bug especially since every other quest in the game can be completed with a bounty and it's not the players fault it's zenimax fault for introducing this bug and not fixing it

Artjuh90 · November 2015

good to see exploiters see the fruits of their labor

Korah_Eaglecry · November 2015

found1779 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People seem to think that when the justice system was introduced that ZOS didn't think that maybe people might end up with bounties too high to clear and so would not be able to progress through quests. Except they DID. Which is why this is the first time this problem has risen. It's clearly a bug (more of an oversight really). And that is all there is to it.

Would love an official word on this.

if you get a bounty that high its not ZOS fault, its yourselfs.
i dont know why ZOS should fix this as it aint rly a bug.

its nearly the same as if he would say i cant walk past a guard cos my bounty is too high

Its going to impact such a small demographic within the game, either they did it on purpose to cry about it seeing as this is the second thread in as many days or they thought they wouldnt run into consequences eventually for high Bounty, that it makes absolutely no sense to put any sort of logistics towards changing this.

The most simple solution, and its in the hands of the player, would have been to never get your bounty that high. But of course its the games fault and ZOSs fault for the choice of the player. No one ever wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

I have absolutely zero empathy for these players.

You have zero sympathy for people who just want to play the game the way they want and and should be able to complete a quest with a bounty but can not cause of a bug especially since every other quest in the game can be completed with a bounty and it's not the players fault it's zenimax fault for introducing this bug and not fixing it

I have zero sympathy for people who willfully indulge in a consequence mechanic, to the point of racking up enough of a bounty to make Donald Trump blush, and then complain when it bites them in the ***. Why would I feel sorry for you? You did this to yourself. Knowningly did this to yourself.

found1779 · November 2015

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

found1779 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People seem to think that when the justice system was introduced that ZOS didn't think that maybe people might end up with bounties too high to clear and so would not be able to progress through quests. Except they DID. Which is why this is the first time this problem has risen. It's clearly a bug (more of an oversight really). And that is all there is to it.

Would love an official word on this.

if you get a bounty that high its not ZOS fault, its yourselfs.
i dont know why ZOS should fix this as it aint rly a bug.

its nearly the same as if he would say i cant walk past a guard cos my bounty is too high

Its going to impact such a small demographic within the game, either they did it on purpose to cry about it seeing as this is the second thread in as many days or they thought they wouldnt run into consequences eventually for high Bounty, that it makes absolutely no sense to put any sort of logistics towards changing this.

The most simple solution, and its in the hands of the player, would have been to never get your bounty that high. But of course its the games fault and ZOSs fault for the choice of the player. No one ever wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

I have absolutely zero empathy for these players.

You have zero sympathy for people who just want to play the game the way they want and and should be able to complete a quest with a bounty but can not cause of a bug especially since every other quest in the game can be completed with a bounty and it's not the players fault it's zenimax fault for introducing this bug and not fixing it

I have zero sympathy for people who willfully indulge in a consequence mechanic, to the point of racking up enough of a bounty to make Donald Trump blush, and then complain when it bites them in the ***. Why would I feel sorry for you? You did this to yourself. Knowningly did this to yourself.

I did it because it's the way I like to play but it hasn't been a issue completing quest with a bounty until now so it's zenimax fault

Artjuh90 · November 2015

found1779 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

found1779 wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

People seem to think that when the justice system was introduced that ZOS didn't think that maybe people might end up with bounties too high to clear and so would not be able to progress through quests. Except they DID. Which is why this is the first time this problem has risen. It's clearly a bug (more of an oversight really). And that is all there is to it.

Would love an official word on this.

if you get a bounty that high its not ZOS fault, its yourselfs.
i dont know why ZOS should fix this as it aint rly a bug.

its nearly the same as if he would say i cant walk past a guard cos my bounty is too high

Its going to impact such a small demographic within the game, either they did it on purpose to cry about it seeing as this is the second thread in as many days or they thought they wouldnt run into consequences eventually for high Bounty, that it makes absolutely no sense to put any sort of logistics towards changing this.

The most simple solution, and its in the hands of the player, would have been to never get your bounty that high. But of course its the games fault and ZOSs fault for the choice of the player. No one ever wants to take responsibility for their own actions.

I have absolutely zero empathy for these players.

You have zero sympathy for people who just want to play the game the way they want and and should be able to complete a quest with a bounty but can not cause of a bug especially since every other quest in the game can be completed with a bounty and it's not the players fault it's zenimax fault for introducing this bug and not fixing it

I have zero sympathy for people who willfully indulge in a consequence mechanic, to the point of racking up enough of a bounty to make Donald Trump blush, and then complain when it bites them in the ***. Why would I feel sorry for you? You did this to yourself. Knowningly did this to yourself.

I did it because it's the way I like to play but it hasn't been a issue completing quest with a bounty until now so it's zenimax fault

same agrument like someone who drove against a tree. if the tree wasn't standing there i wouldn't have had a accident. this doesn't make sence to blame ZOS

Elsonso · November 2015

found1779 wrote: »

Hmm no post here either from development I'm surprised this matter needs fixed

You likely won't get a response here. This is a discussion forum, not customer support. For customer support, you have to go to customer support.

On PC/Mac, use /bug one time, and only one time, for this. On console, follow whatever process they have.

Hopefully, you reported this to customer support. It does not matter what they respond with, or how they disposition it, it is in the system with a ticket number. You can continue to reply to that ticket number with additional, pertinent, information.

EDIT: You will know when it is fixed because you will be able to interact with that NPC.

found1779 · November 2015

lordrichter wrote: »

found1779 wrote: »

Hmm no post here either from development I'm surprised this matter needs fixed

You likely won't get a response here. This is a discussion forum, not customer support. For customer support, you have to go to customer support.

On PC/Mac, use /bug one time, and only one time, for this. On console, follow whatever process they have.

Hopefully, you reported this to customer support. It does not matter what they respond with, or how they disposition it, it is in the system with a ticket number. You can continue to reply to that ticket number with additional, pertinent, information.

EDIT: You will know when it is fixed because you will be able to interact with that NPC.

If that's the case how come other issues get addressed on here by gina or rich lambert or another person who works for zenimax

Elsonso · November 2015

found1779 wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

found1779 wrote: »

Hmm no post here either from development I'm surprised this matter needs fixed

You likely won't get a response here. This is a discussion forum, not customer support. For customer support, you have to go to customer support.

On PC/Mac, use /bug one time, and only one time, for this. On console, follow whatever process they have.

Hopefully, you reported this to customer support. It does not matter what they respond with, or how they disposition it, it is in the system with a ticket number. You can continue to reply to that ticket number with additional, pertinent, information.

EDIT: You will know when it is fixed because you will be able to interact with that NPC.

If that's the case how come other issues get addressed on here by gino or rich lambert or another person who works for zenimax

Most bugs like this do not get a personal response in the forums from Rich, Gina, or anyone else at ZOS. The only reason it might attract a dev comment is that the whole situation has a certain amount of "unusual" to it.

Most players that come across this will only be inconvenienced.

I hope you do get an answer. Really. However, the lack of an answer in no way diminishes the possibility of a fix. If it is a bug, I am certain they will fix it. It blocks progression in the game. The only question is how long will the wait be. Like the majority of the customer reported bugs that get fixed, there will be no fanfare, discussion, or acknowledgement. You should not expect to hear anything until it appears in the patch notes.

I am looking forward to a possible amusing comment in the patch notes.

P.S. - Spamming them for an answer will only get you a stern talking to, or banned. It will not speed up any fixes.

P.P.S - And you got the reply you were looking for.

Xendyn · November 2015

@Xantaria

Your answer was posted in the other thread.

ZOS_GinaBruno
admin

We can confirm that you should be able to speak with any quest NPC regardless of your bounty (it wouldn't be very fair otherwise). We're working on fixing Roxanne so she'll speak with you even if you have a large bounty.

RedTalon · November 2015

nm

Xantaria · November 2015

Artjuh90 wrote: »

good to see exploiters see the fruits of their labor

What kind of Exploiting are we talking about? As I said I did not kill sheep for leather and only heard about it after it was fixed.

Xantaria · November 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

@Xantaria

Your answer was posted in the other thread.

ZOS_GinaBruno
admin

We can confirm that you should be able to speak with any quest NPC regardless of your bounty (it wouldn't be very fair otherwise). We're working on fixing Roxanne so she'll speak with you even if you have a large bounty.

Thank you!