World first Veteran Maelstrom Arena

Senaxu · October 2015

i think basically its about learning and keep practicing it. if you know the mechanics for every stage spawns etc.

Atm we are at the point: "God damn that is hard". In 2 months we will say.... "Sad that the enemies don't spawn faster cause then i could clear it under 40min".

Dymence is a very skilled Player and a real animal. But i think all of you guys will do it soon if you don't give up and keep learning all the mechanics. I planed to stream my whole run and show you guys how i did it, but my ping went to 400-600.

So the plan is: if it is live i will start streaming with the average 100 latenz and you will see it is not that hard at all if you play focused.

F7sus4 · October 2015

Senaxu wrote: »

its clearly not to easy. Dymence just compares with the old PTS version (50%less dmg). It's easy for him now and he also spent a huge amount of time to test it. For me i ahve to say its quite hard and i really can't imagine how other classes should get this (specially stamina users). Atm i can get with 487 souls (left) to the last boss. But this one is a ugly beast. i finished with 456 souls my 2nd time. It will be easier on the live server than with my 300-500 ping on PTS but this damage numbers are insane. The sad thing is: I love it! Its a real challenge and that was missing in eso. the problem is... just for the sorcerer.
I dont know the other classes so well but i think it will be really hard to finish MSA Vet atm.

All the tests I've performed on Magicka Nightblade lean towards the conclusion that it's a viable archetype for finishing vMA as well. It can provide enough burst DPS when it's needed, also relying on Sap Essence does wonders when AoE heal+DPS is needed.

~430 Souls left at the final boss so far, was 4AM as I got there, had to interrupt.

Fecius · October 2015

@Radixo

Thank you for your belife in me.

Ofc, I will finish it one day but on EU live now. It's all about practice and I was asking some tricks I got, so I should try to implement it. A bit sad that I will not be able to play some ESO till November 4.

tino.antoninieb17_ESO · October 2015

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

Would u mind to tell me what gear / bars you had on your DK ?
Thanks .

FENGRUSH · October 2015

Had a fun time doing this on my stam melee sorc. And by fun I mean there wasnt a single area I felt I should be using melee instead of ranged for any kind of advantage. *** design.

jakeedmundson · October 2015

Dymence wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Hi, I've spent not so much time on the arena. First time I had to finish my run at 2nd wave of 9th arena. Yesterday I tried it again. With my 1st experience it felt much easier and I managed to get to the last boss.

Here is a link for a video of my best try for this encounter. Maybe I just need some more practice because I tried it only about 108 times and changed a bunch of abilities on my bars but the boss fight feels a bit insane. I pretty much hate those daedroths and it's pretty hard to deal with them without buffs but I would say it's manageable on the edge (even without overload since I had 2-3 wipe tries for 1 overload try).

When I've seen that on the 3d stage you should be able to kill Daedroths and Heals plus killing those adds who perform a ritual ASAP (cause you would not love the Thing at the end of it) taking dmg from everything including boss I just pressed Alt+F4 after death. Partly it was late; partly it was a bit astonishing.

I'm interested in the way you was using Sigils (or maybe not using), maybe some tips and tricks or advises about fight.

Hope next time I will show a progress. I still feel the fight manageable and I feel lack of practice. Unfortunately, next time I will be able to dive in this Arena only after 10.4.2015 so it will be on Live already.

Here's a video of my best Overload try, by the way (link access):

https://youtu.be/4cvkmIELGOw

P.S.: Had a Restoration staff on my bar but really didn't use it's healing, I just had no time for this, but only a Hardened ward was not enogth for me. Maybe after next 100 tries
P.P.S: I guess, if I could pass the 1st phase without Overload and Sigils, then I'd be able to finish him right after the end of the 2nd phase to 0 HP with 1000 ultimate point Overload and all Sigils used.

It's a pretty straight forward fight, so I won't spend too much time writing out the details of each of my movements, but I save my overload for the daedroths and use it non stop after the crystal phase on the boss. On average, a daedroth eats 6 light attacks with overload and they're dead.

I have never used any sigils in this boss fight.

Later today I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out the scoring system of this arena. Yesterday I wanted to finish the arena without using any sigils at all, because I thought not using sigils gives a lot of points. I finished it without using any sigils and 11 deaths in total. Don't know how long it took exactly. I got 20k less points than I got the run before that, in which I used 2 sigils in total, had 8 deaths and the time was roughly the same, but I can't say it for sure here either (I really should stopwatch it).

Might be death and time are way more important than sigils, so that's what I'm going to test today. I'm going to use as much sigils as I need to finish it as fast as possible, and I'll try to speedrun it like this. I just want to finish it as fast and death-free as possible and see how much points that gives me, without any regard for sigils.

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

I appreciate that you got through it (even though it took you twice as long with MANY more deaths than your sorc run)... but if they expect all dks to respec/regear to magic... well, lets just say it won't happen. Maybe everyone should just play a sorc from now on.
This game won't be much fun if all you have running around are robe wearing, magic users...i'm sure it would lead to some great group play.

BuggeX · October 2015

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Hi, I've spent not so much time on the arena. First time I had to finish my run at 2nd wave of 9th arena. Yesterday I tried it again. With my 1st experience it felt much easier and I managed to get to the last boss.

Here is a link for a video of my best try for this encounter. Maybe I just need some more practice because I tried it only about 108 times and changed a bunch of abilities on my bars but the boss fight feels a bit insane. I pretty much hate those daedroths and it's pretty hard to deal with them without buffs but I would say it's manageable on the edge (even without overload since I had 2-3 wipe tries for 1 overload try).

When I've seen that on the 3d stage you should be able to kill Daedroths and Heals plus killing those adds who perform a ritual ASAP (cause you would not love the Thing at the end of it) taking dmg from everything including boss I just pressed Alt+F4 after death. Partly it was late; partly it was a bit astonishing.

I'm interested in the way you was using Sigils (or maybe not using), maybe some tips and tricks or advises about fight.

Hope next time I will show a progress. I still feel the fight manageable and I feel lack of practice. Unfortunately, next time I will be able to dive in this Arena only after 10.4.2015 so it will be on Live already.

Here's a video of my best Overload try, by the way (link access):

https://youtu.be/4cvkmIELGOw

P.S.: Had a Restoration staff on my bar but really didn't use it's healing, I just had no time for this, but only a Hardened ward was not enogth for me. Maybe after next 100 tries
P.P.S: I guess, if I could pass the 1st phase without Overload and Sigils, then I'd be able to finish him right after the end of the 2nd phase to 0 HP with 1000 ultimate point Overload and all Sigils used.

It's a pretty straight forward fight, so I won't spend too much time writing out the details of each of my movements, but I save my overload for the daedroths and use it non stop after the crystal phase on the boss. On average, a daedroth eats 6 light attacks with overload and they're dead.

I have never used any sigils in this boss fight.

Later today I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out the scoring system of this arena. Yesterday I wanted to finish the arena without using any sigils at all, because I thought not using sigils gives a lot of points. I finished it without using any sigils and 11 deaths in total. Don't know how long it took exactly. I got 20k less points than I got the run before that, in which I used 2 sigils in total, had 8 deaths and the time was roughly the same, but I can't say it for sure here either (I really should stopwatch it).

Might be death and time are way more important than sigils, so that's what I'm going to test today. I'm going to use as much sigils as I need to finish it as fast as possible, and I'll try to speedrun it like this. I just want to finish it as fast and death-free as possible and see how much points that gives me, without any regard for sigils.

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

I appreciate that you got through it (even though it took you twice as long with MANY more deaths than your sorc run)... but if they expect all dks to respec/regear to magic... well, lets just say it won't happen. Maybe everyone should just play a sorc from now on.
This game won't be much fun if all you have running around are robe wearing, magic users...i'm sure it would lead to some great group play.

Well Stamina DK is as strong as Magicka.
The Problem most have, they are so dickheads and just use tanky tank gear like foodman without ressource sustain or dps and the flame will begin. And you dont Need a robe for magicka, heavy works to, with -15% dps mby

Dymence · October 2015

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Ta-da! It's finally done!

A few things to say about this Veteran Maelstrom Arena now that it's finally finished....

The difficulty was really hard pre the last patch. It was really hard but still doable if you played each arena perfectly. The only thing that was nearly undoable, and made me gave up in the end was the last boss. I'd tried it about 4 times on different occassions and it always stomped me into the ground.

Now with this new patch, the Veteran Maelstrom Arena is way too easy, in my opinion. With the fixes/changes to damage mitigation, everything became so much easier and on top of that I'm playing with my own character with EU character copies.

ZOS, if you wanted to keep the time to kill roughly the same you should've increased the HP of mobs far more than you have currently done. Most mobs have less than a 50% increase in hp, while we are now dealing double the damage at minimium. I was able to skip a lot of boss mechanics this time around simply because of the increase in damage with not enough of a health boost to compensate for this increase.

To illustrate my point, I was able to kill the boss of the 4th arena as he spawned his first adds. That was a 36 second fight...... a mere shadow from what it was before where you had to actually fight to win. Now you can just stomp everything into the ground and rush through it.

Still it was fun, and I guess it's better suited now for all players and not just the top 1%, but it would be nice if it could just be a little bit harder.

time to burst your bubble it doesn't really count if its on PTS

If telling yourself that makes you sleep better at night....

tino.antoninieb17_ESO wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

Would u mind to tell me what gear / bars you had on your DK ?
Thanks .

For gear I ran with 2x nerien'eth, 5x julianos, maelstrom fire staff in sharpened and healing staff in precise (was too lazy to get a better healing staff) and 3x willpower with 1 spell damage enchant and 2 magicka regen enchants.

Bar 1 destro staff: Force pulse, engulfing flames, elemental drain, eruption, inner light, magma shell
Bar 2 resto staff: Molten whip, coagulating blood, healing ward, dragon fire scale, inner light, standard of might

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Hi, I've spent not so much time on the arena. First time I had to finish my run at 2nd wave of 9th arena. Yesterday I tried it again. With my 1st experience it felt much easier and I managed to get to the last boss.

Here is a link for a video of my best try for this encounter. Maybe I just need some more practice because I tried it only about 108 times and changed a bunch of abilities on my bars but the boss fight feels a bit insane. I pretty much hate those daedroths and it's pretty hard to deal with them without buffs but I would say it's manageable on the edge (even without overload since I had 2-3 wipe tries for 1 overload try).

When I've seen that on the 3d stage you should be able to kill Daedroths and Heals plus killing those adds who perform a ritual ASAP (cause you would not love the Thing at the end of it) taking dmg from everything including boss I just pressed Alt+F4 after death. Partly it was late; partly it was a bit astonishing.

I'm interested in the way you was using Sigils (or maybe not using), maybe some tips and tricks or advises about fight.

Hope next time I will show a progress. I still feel the fight manageable and I feel lack of practice. Unfortunately, next time I will be able to dive in this Arena only after 10.4.2015 so it will be on Live already.

Here's a video of my best Overload try, by the way (link access):

https://youtu.be/4cvkmIELGOw

P.S.: Had a Restoration staff on my bar but really didn't use it's healing, I just had no time for this, but only a Hardened ward was not enogth for me. Maybe after next 100 tries
P.P.S: I guess, if I could pass the 1st phase without Overload and Sigils, then I'd be able to finish him right after the end of the 2nd phase to 0 HP with 1000 ultimate point Overload and all Sigils used.

It's a pretty straight forward fight, so I won't spend too much time writing out the details of each of my movements, but I save my overload for the daedroths and use it non stop after the crystal phase on the boss. On average, a daedroth eats 6 light attacks with overload and they're dead.

I have never used any sigils in this boss fight.

Later today I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out the scoring system of this arena. Yesterday I wanted to finish the arena without using any sigils at all, because I thought not using sigils gives a lot of points. I finished it without using any sigils and 11 deaths in total. Don't know how long it took exactly. I got 20k less points than I got the run before that, in which I used 2 sigils in total, had 8 deaths and the time was roughly the same, but I can't say it for sure here either (I really should stopwatch it).

Might be death and time are way more important than sigils, so that's what I'm going to test today. I'm going to use as much sigils as I need to finish it as fast as possible, and I'll try to speedrun it like this. I just want to finish it as fast and death-free as possible and see how much points that gives me, without any regard for sigils.

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

I appreciate that you got through it (even though it took you twice as long with MANY more deaths than your sorc run)... but if they expect all dks to respec/regear to magic... well, lets just say it won't happen. Maybe everyone should just play a sorc from now on.
This game won't be much fun if all you have running around are robe wearing, magic users...i'm sure it would lead to some great group play.

Yeah I agree that it should be doable with both magicka specs and stamina specs. I just can't imagine how a stamina player would do it right now, but that's also because I've never played anything stamina (aside from leveling a stamina sorc to vr14... much regret) and I just don't like playing stamina, compared to magicka.

jakeedmundson · October 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Hi, I've spent not so much time on the arena. First time I had to finish my run at 2nd wave of 9th arena. Yesterday I tried it again. With my 1st experience it felt much easier and I managed to get to the last boss.

Here is a link for a video of my best try for this encounter. Maybe I just need some more practice because I tried it only about 108 times and changed a bunch of abilities on my bars but the boss fight feels a bit insane. I pretty much hate those daedroths and it's pretty hard to deal with them without buffs but I would say it's manageable on the edge (even without overload since I had 2-3 wipe tries for 1 overload try).

When I've seen that on the 3d stage you should be able to kill Daedroths and Heals plus killing those adds who perform a ritual ASAP (cause you would not love the Thing at the end of it) taking dmg from everything including boss I just pressed Alt+F4 after death. Partly it was late; partly it was a bit astonishing.

I'm interested in the way you was using Sigils (or maybe not using), maybe some tips and tricks or advises about fight.

Hope next time I will show a progress. I still feel the fight manageable and I feel lack of practice. Unfortunately, next time I will be able to dive in this Arena only after 10.4.2015 so it will be on Live already.

Here's a video of my best Overload try, by the way (link access):

https://youtu.be/4cvkmIELGOw

P.S.: Had a Restoration staff on my bar but really didn't use it's healing, I just had no time for this, but only a Hardened ward was not enogth for me. Maybe after next 100 tries
P.P.S: I guess, if I could pass the 1st phase without Overload and Sigils, then I'd be able to finish him right after the end of the 2nd phase to 0 HP with 1000 ultimate point Overload and all Sigils used.

It's a pretty straight forward fight, so I won't spend too much time writing out the details of each of my movements, but I save my overload for the daedroths and use it non stop after the crystal phase on the boss. On average, a daedroth eats 6 light attacks with overload and they're dead.

I have never used any sigils in this boss fight.

Later today I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out the scoring system of this arena. Yesterday I wanted to finish the arena without using any sigils at all, because I thought not using sigils gives a lot of points. I finished it without using any sigils and 11 deaths in total. Don't know how long it took exactly. I got 20k less points than I got the run before that, in which I used 2 sigils in total, had 8 deaths and the time was roughly the same, but I can't say it for sure here either (I really should stopwatch it).

Might be death and time are way more important than sigils, so that's what I'm going to test today. I'm going to use as much sigils as I need to finish it as fast as possible, and I'll try to speedrun it like this. I just want to finish it as fast and death-free as possible and see how much points that gives me, without any regard for sigils.

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

I appreciate that you got through it (even though it took you twice as long with MANY more deaths than your sorc run)... but if they expect all dks to respec/regear to magic... well, lets just say it won't happen. Maybe everyone should just play a sorc from now on.
This game won't be much fun if all you have running around are robe wearing, magic users...i'm sure it would lead to some great group play.

Well Stamina DK is as strong as Magicka.
The Problem most have, they are so dickheads and just use tanky tank gear like foodman without ressource sustain or dps and the flame will begin. And you dont Need a robe for magicka, heavy works to, with -15% dps mby

Ok... it doesn't seem like they even compare in the arena... and its not really about which one is stronger... its the style of play.
i've already seen a few posts about how stamina players are using a template character WITH mal weapons and other gold orsinium dps gear still can't beat the arena.... but sorcs have no problem.

Defilted · October 2015

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I happy it had become easier. I just want to get my weapons and gear and be outta there.

I do not understand this logic unless you are a pure pvp person.

spelling

Ezareth · October 2015

Defilted wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I happy it had become easier. I just want to get my weapons and gear and be outta there.

I do not understand this logic unless you are a pure pvp person.

spelling

Many of us are. We only do PvE content for CPs and PvP gear as many of us enjoy it as much as people who enjoy PvE enjoy PvP as well.

jakeedmundson wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Hi, I've spent not so much time on the arena. First time I had to finish my run at 2nd wave of 9th arena. Yesterday I tried it again. With my 1st experience it felt much easier and I managed to get to the last boss.

Here is a link for a video of my best try for this encounter. Maybe I just need some more practice because I tried it only about 108 times and changed a bunch of abilities on my bars but the boss fight feels a bit insane. I pretty much hate those daedroths and it's pretty hard to deal with them without buffs but I would say it's manageable on the edge (even without overload since I had 2-3 wipe tries for 1 overload try).

When I've seen that on the 3d stage you should be able to kill Daedroths and Heals plus killing those adds who perform a ritual ASAP (cause you would not love the Thing at the end of it) taking dmg from everything including boss I just pressed Alt+F4 after death. Partly it was late; partly it was a bit astonishing.

I'm interested in the way you was using Sigils (or maybe not using), maybe some tips and tricks or advises about fight.

Hope next time I will show a progress. I still feel the fight manageable and I feel lack of practice. Unfortunately, next time I will be able to dive in this Arena only after 10.4.2015 so it will be on Live already.

Here's a video of my best Overload try, by the way (link access):

https://youtu.be/4cvkmIELGOw

P.S.: Had a Restoration staff on my bar but really didn't use it's healing, I just had no time for this, but only a Hardened ward was not enogth for me. Maybe after next 100 tries
P.P.S: I guess, if I could pass the 1st phase without Overload and Sigils, then I'd be able to finish him right after the end of the 2nd phase to 0 HP with 1000 ultimate point Overload and all Sigils used.

It's a pretty straight forward fight, so I won't spend too much time writing out the details of each of my movements, but I save my overload for the daedroths and use it non stop after the crystal phase on the boss. On average, a daedroth eats 6 light attacks with overload and they're dead.

I have never used any sigils in this boss fight.

Later today I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out the scoring system of this arena. Yesterday I wanted to finish the arena without using any sigils at all, because I thought not using sigils gives a lot of points. I finished it without using any sigils and 11 deaths in total. Don't know how long it took exactly. I got 20k less points than I got the run before that, in which I used 2 sigils in total, had 8 deaths and the time was roughly the same, but I can't say it for sure here either (I really should stopwatch it).

Might be death and time are way more important than sigils, so that's what I'm going to test today. I'm going to use as much sigils as I need to finish it as fast as possible, and I'll try to speedrun it like this. I just want to finish it as fast and death-free as possible and see how much points that gives me, without any regard for sigils.

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

I appreciate that you got through it (even though it took you twice as long with MANY more deaths than your sorc run)... but if they expect all dks to respec/regear to magic... well, lets just say it won't happen. Maybe everyone should just play a sorc from now on.
This game won't be much fun if all you have running around are robe wearing, magic users...i'm sure it would lead to some great group play.

Well Stamina DK is as strong as Magicka.
The Problem most have, they are so dickheads and just use tanky tank gear like foodman without ressource sustain or dps and the flame will begin. And you dont Need a robe for magicka, heavy works to, with -15% dps mby

Ok... it doesn't seem like they even compare in the arena... and its not really about which one is stronger... its the style of play.
i've already seen a few posts about how stamina players are using a template character WITH mal weapons and other gold orsinium dps gear still can't beat the arena.... but sorcs have no problem.

*A* sorc does not mean "Sorcs". The template gear is still not optimal and the Maelstrom weapons are not a huge increase due to the lack of Nirnhoned.

I have only seen one person spend the time to beat the Arena at all so far and I know many Sorcs who have tried and were unable to as well.

Dymence · October 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I happy it had become easier. I just want to get my weapons and gear and be outta there.

I do not understand this logic unless you are a pure pvp person.

spelling

Many of us are. We only do PvE content for CPs and PvP gear as many of us enjoy it as much as people who enjoy PvE enjoy PvP as well.

jakeedmundson wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Fecius wrote: »

Hi, I've spent not so much time on the arena. First time I had to finish my run at 2nd wave of 9th arena. Yesterday I tried it again. With my 1st experience it felt much easier and I managed to get to the last boss.

Here is a link for a video of my best try for this encounter. Maybe I just need some more practice because I tried it only about 108 times and changed a bunch of abilities on my bars but the boss fight feels a bit insane. I pretty much hate those daedroths and it's pretty hard to deal with them without buffs but I would say it's manageable on the edge (even without overload since I had 2-3 wipe tries for 1 overload try).

When I've seen that on the 3d stage you should be able to kill Daedroths and Heals plus killing those adds who perform a ritual ASAP (cause you would not love the Thing at the end of it) taking dmg from everything including boss I just pressed Alt+F4 after death. Partly it was late; partly it was a bit astonishing.

I'm interested in the way you was using Sigils (or maybe not using), maybe some tips and tricks or advises about fight.

Hope next time I will show a progress. I still feel the fight manageable and I feel lack of practice. Unfortunately, next time I will be able to dive in this Arena only after 10.4.2015 so it will be on Live already.

Here's a video of my best Overload try, by the way (link access):

https://youtu.be/4cvkmIELGOw

P.S.: Had a Restoration staff on my bar but really didn't use it's healing, I just had no time for this, but only a Hardened ward was not enogth for me. Maybe after next 100 tries
P.P.S: I guess, if I could pass the 1st phase without Overload and Sigils, then I'd be able to finish him right after the end of the 2nd phase to 0 HP with 1000 ultimate point Overload and all Sigils used.

It's a pretty straight forward fight, so I won't spend too much time writing out the details of each of my movements, but I save my overload for the daedroths and use it non stop after the crystal phase on the boss. On average, a daedroth eats 6 light attacks with overload and they're dead.

I have never used any sigils in this boss fight.

Later today I'm going to spend some time trying to figure out the scoring system of this arena. Yesterday I wanted to finish the arena without using any sigils at all, because I thought not using sigils gives a lot of points. I finished it without using any sigils and 11 deaths in total. Don't know how long it took exactly. I got 20k less points than I got the run before that, in which I used 2 sigils in total, had 8 deaths and the time was roughly the same, but I can't say it for sure here either (I really should stopwatch it).

Might be death and time are way more important than sigils, so that's what I'm going to test today. I'm going to use as much sigils as I need to finish it as fast as possible, and I'll try to speedrun it like this. I just want to finish it as fast and death-free as possible and see how much points that gives me, without any regard for sigils.

Dymence wrote: »

The total run took me 2 hours and 57 minutes, with 46 deaths

However, please note the following points:

- I am a sorcerer only player
- I have never played a DK in endgame PVE before
- The highest level I've ever had a DK was level 34
- This was my second time in the veteran arena as a DK
- This was a template character

With this in mind, I'm confident in the fact that all you DKs out there should be able to complete this with relative ease too.

Yeah, it was harder with a DK than with a sorc because you don't have the burning power of overload, your shields suck and your healing sucks too, but please keep in mind that I'm a novice DK player.

I appreciate that you got through it (even though it took you twice as long with MANY more deaths than your sorc run)... but if they expect all dks to respec/regear to magic... well, lets just say it won't happen. Maybe everyone should just play a sorc from now on.
This game won't be much fun if all you have running around are robe wearing, magic users...i'm sure it would lead to some great group play.

Well Stamina DK is as strong as Magicka.
The Problem most have, they are so dickheads and just use tanky tank gear like foodman without ressource sustain or dps and the flame will begin. And you dont Need a robe for magicka, heavy works to, with -15% dps mby

Ok... it doesn't seem like they even compare in the arena... and its not really about which one is stronger... its the style of play.
i've already seen a few posts about how stamina players are using a template character WITH mal weapons and other gold orsinium dps gear still can't beat the arena.... but sorcs have no problem.

*A* sorc does not mean "Sorcs". The template gear is still not optimal and the Maelstrom weapons are not a huge increase due to the lack of Nirnhoned.

I have only seen one person spend the time to beat the Arena at all so far and I know many Sorcs who have tried and were unable to as well.

There have been 5 people to complete the arena in total so far, if no one else beat it yet since last night (didn't check leaderboards yet)

Me with sorc and DK, 2 other sorcs and 2 nbs.

Dymence · October 2015

And to fill the last empty spot....

This run took 2 hours and 40 minutes, and I had 49 deaths in total.

The same that went for the DK also goes for templar, the fact that I've never played one in endgame etc etc.

In comparison to magicka DK every single stage was easier with a magicka templar, except the last boss. The last boss really was a pain....

And I have even worse news. Do you know what I got from the end chest in this run? 171 gold and a filled grand soul gem. That's it. No maelstrom weapon, and not even a single piece of gear. What the hell ZOS? You put a chance for the chest to drop no gear at all, in the most difficult instance to date?

FENGRUSH · October 2015

Dymence wrote: »

And to fill the last empty spot....

This run took 2 hours and 40 minutes, and I had 49 deaths in total.

The same that went for the DK also goes for templar, the fact that I've never played one in endgame etc etc.

In comparison to magicka DK every single stage was easier with a magicka templar, except the last boss. The last boss really was a pain....

And I have even worse news. Do you know what I got from the end chest in this run? 171 gold and a filled grand soul gem. That's it. No maelstrom weapon, and not even a single piece of gear. What the hell ZOS? You put a chance for the chest to drop no gear at all, in the most difficult instance to date?

Sounds like my last 50 vWGT runs.

silky_soft · October 2015

Got a question, do the boss mobs have 100% armor pen? Because I got hit for 14k on my stamplar and ran your build and got hit for 14k. That's 20k armor difference. THen I get board after 5 mins of boss fights. 3 hours for a chance at a *** trait gear, that you can now not even get. Yea no, get my crafted stam 9 trait 4 piece and I'm unsub.

Dymence · October 2015

silky_soft wrote: »

Got a question, do the boss mobs have 100% armor pen? Because I got hit for 14k on my stamplar and ran your build and got hit for 14k. That's 20k armor difference. THen I get board after 5 mins of boss fights. 3 hours for a chance at a *** trait gear, that you can now not even get. Yea no, get my crafted stam 9 trait 4 piece and I'm unsub.

What mob did you get hit by for 14k? I guess that matters.

Apokh · October 2015

pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »

Not everyone is a Sorc or as good as you, there are alot player who doesnt have extremely good playing skills, or like me are older (40-50+) who arent that fast anymore as when they were in their twenties.

Oh, I wish more elders would be so couraged to think this way, when talking about other "living areas" - e.g. according to their drivers licence.

ssewallb14_ESO · October 2015

Dymence wrote: »

And to fill the last empty spot....

Grats. There should be an achievement for beating it with all 4 classes.

What was your skill bar loadout for this one?

Dymence · October 2015

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

And to fill the last empty spot....

Grats. There should be an achievement for beating it with all 4 classes.

What was your skill bar loadout for this one?

Bar 1 destro staff: Force pulse, reflective light, elemental drain, structured entropy, inner light, shooting star
Bar 2 resto staff: Puncturing sweep, breath of life, healing ward, channeled focus, inner light, shooting star

silky_soft · October 2015

First bloke when he does that single target right after he trys to heal up

ItsRejectz · October 2015

Not my vid, but we have a NB finish now

Dymence wrote: »

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

And to fill the last empty spot....

Grats. There should be an achievement for beating it with all 4 classes.

What was your skill bar loadout for this one?

Bar 1 destro staff: Force pulse, reflective light, elemental drain, structured entropy, inner light, shooting star
Bar 2 resto staff: Puncturing sweep, breath of life, healing ward, channeled focus, inner light, shooting star

What gear mate?

Dymence · October 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Not my vid, but we have a NB finish now

Dymence wrote: »

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

And to fill the last empty spot....

Grats. There should be an achievement for beating it with all 4 classes.

What was your skill bar loadout for this one?

Bar 1 destro staff: Force pulse, reflective light, elemental drain, structured entropy, inner light, shooting star
Bar 2 resto staff: Puncturing sweep, breath of life, healing ward, channeled focus, inner light, shooting star

What gear mate?

NB has the most finishes till now, which is 4.

Also my gear was the same as for the last 2 characters. 2x nerien'eth/5x julianos/3x willpower/maelstrom destro staff/resto staff

Dymence · October 2015

And... world first no death?

Completion time was 58 minutes and some seconds (I really should pay more attention to this), score of 305k.

Wreuntzylla · October 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Just had a go on a templar template and couldnt get past the first boss, think i need to improve my PvE build lol

BIS for Templar is apparently all crafted (TBS + Julie).