ZOS Please make sets BoE

Nifty2g · October 2015

The economy is taking a huge hit especially for the PvE player, there's not much to make gold off of, with Imperial City update the 2 new dungeons I was thinking would be a great way to make money but they all came BoP. I was hoping the solo arena would come in BoE but it too is coming in BoP. I was thinking you could maybe adjust it how VDSA is, make all the sets BoE including the Imperial City Dungeon sets but make the Master Weapons BoP.

With little ways to make gold in the game now unless you farm Sewers selling stuff, all of the gold we had saved up is quickly going to waste with these insane prices on Runes, Glyphs, Kuta, Tempering Alloy, all of the Silk, Leather, Wood, Metal, Potions, Repairs after every run and so forth.

Would be really nice to see the new sets come in BoE

MisterBigglesworth · October 2015

Would be nice if, every time a new DLC with new BOPs came out, all the old sets became BOE. That would make it easier for newer players to catch up without giving people with tons of gold immediate access to the best new gear without doing that content. This would be similar to the "gear seasons" concept the Devs talked about at Quakecon 2014.

code65536 · October 2015

It's not just a matter of making gold. The bigger issue is that, with the large number of different sets that are dropping--much more so than in DSA--it could take many dozens runs before someone is able to complete a set that they want. More, if they actually want good traits. More likely than not, they'll end up with many copies of one piece while another missing piece eludes them run after run.

I understand that ZOS wants to make the content repeatable, but they shouldn't use BoP to force people into repeating this content. People should be repeating the Maelstrom Arena because it's fun and because they feel genuinely rewarded by it, not because they're forced to because the RNG decides to troll them. The latter is how you brew resentment and alienate your player base because it turns what is supposed to a fun game into something that feels more like a tedious chore.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223320/please-make-the-maelstrom-sets-bind-on-equip-not-bind-on-pickup

KenaPKK · October 2015

I am an economist by profession. I've been watching the in-game economy closely since the beginning, and honestly...yea, these new sets need to be BoE. Like, ALL of them except Malestrom weapons and Undaunted pieces. Dungeon drops like Savior and Ebon should have been BoE back in the day, and the new drop sets should be now. Otherwise, like the OP said, there just aren't enough goods in circulation to create a diverse and rich economy.

And I am not going to be wearing them OR running the dungeons to sell them, so I am an unbiased opinion.

Have drop rates dictate how many are available in the game, and let the markets decide the prices for those that do drop as people who want to wear them bid to obtain them.

Tankqull · October 2015

sign...
for the sake of mental player health make sets BoE. or tremendously increase the drop rates (50% chance at every boss encounter for a set piece) especially in wgt and ICP. its bogus to have 1!!! set piece after 104 runs of them... (still no monster helm though :P)

Ruben · October 2015

I ran the Maelstrom arena once and got like 6 different set items. If they were Boe like footman or healer it would have been one or maybe even two like in DSA!

BoP with way higher drop rate is ok with me.

code65536 · October 2015

Ruben wrote: »

I ran the Maelstrom arena once and got like 6 different set items. If they were Boe like footman or healer it would have been one or maybe even two like in DSA!

BoP with way higher drop rate is ok with me.

But have you seen the sheer number of different sets that are dropping? Sure, you'll get set pieces with each run, but how many pieces of unwanted sets will you get? How many duplicate pieces will you get? Getting 5 different pieces of the set that you want is going to be a long grind where you throw yourself at the mercy of the RNG, and that's before we even consider the problem of random traits...

Nifty2g · October 2015

Ruben wrote: »

I ran the Maelstrom arena once and got like 6 different set items. If they were Boe like footman or healer it would have been one or maybe even two like in DSA!

BoP with way higher drop rate is ok with me.

This topic isn't about that

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO · October 2015

Good post. I've barely made any gold in this patch as compared to 1.6 so they definitely need to make sets BoE.
It seems to me like all they want us to do is grind for new sets until new patch arrives. I hope they see this thread and do something about it.

Hiero_Glyph · October 2015

The sad truth is that BoP only became a problem when ZOS gates these items behind paid DLC. ZOS is purposely ruining the in-game economy in order to try and boost their own profits. What makes all of this worse is that they also made almost every previous set obsolete by not making them scale up to v16. Yes, every set item in the game should be BoE with the exception of Master weapons and Monster sets.

Xjcon · October 2015

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Good post. I've barely made any gold in this patch as compared to 1.6 so they definitely need to make sets BoE.
It seems to me like all they want us to do is grind for new sets until new patch arrives. I hope they see this thread and do something about it.

Plenty of people made a pile of gold with IC.

How much gold did you make while farming VDSA Nifty? Your group has dominated leaderboards for some time now.

Give people a reason to play the game not grind for gold. Making all the sets BOE would mean no one really needs to run the content to have that BIS gear. The current craftable gear is so close to the BIS.

Casdha · October 2015

IMHO BoP should only apply to items bought with Crowns. Anything earned by in game by playing should have no higher flag than BoE for gear and no restrictions on items that can be used up like mats since they are gone after they are used.

BoE promotes an economy and that is how an economy is suppose to work, you pay for things you don't want to (or can't) do by selling the surplus of what you like to (or can) do.

BoP for anything else is simply an attempt to force styles of game play. While I can be forced to do something in this game, I can't be forced to pay real money for it.

Nifty2g · October 2015

@ZOS_GinaBruno Could we possibly get some insight on this

redspecter23 · October 2015

I agree with this.

Actually, I'd love to hear from ZoS about why these sets are required to be bound. A perceived game balancing reason? An in game economic reason? *puts on tin foil hat* or just a way to lock the items behind a paid DLC?

Game functionality should always come first. Build your money making strategy around a solid core game. Don't build your game around your store.

Personofsecrets · October 2015

No more bind on pickup, just no more.