What ruins pvp for you?

Cody · October 2015

Zergs

tonight what made PvP annoying for me was definitely the lag. If its this irritating in Cyrodiil, I can't imagine how it is in the IC

Alexandrious · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

Master_Kas wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »

inbalances between classes. Stamina NB and sorcerers are 90% of the top 10 players in EU servers... When 2 classes dominate so much, you now their is something wrong

Corrected.

But I agree

Edit: #Nerf Sorc and all forms of stamina attacks

Alexandrious wrote: »

Highly exploitable animation cancelling.

Lmao exploitable, ZOS said it's intended and not an exploit, not even a bug. Learn what an exploit is

Lmao ZOS said it's intended. @Master_Kas please learn what trying to cover your ass is since your a noob

Cuz no matter what ZoS says, they stated the first time animation cancelling came around that it was NOT intended and they will look into it, found out, they cannot fix it due to having to either redesign the ENTIRE combat system, add a GCD to EVERYTHING, or make attacks that are cancelled do a portion to no damage, all three options being very bad for the game. So instead they decided to try and cover their arse and hope people will forget what they first stated on animation cancelling, that its an exploit, a very MACRO-ABLE exploit.

Please dont tell me to learn anything, seeing as I played mmos 3x longer than you or anyone else from the WoW generation. Animation cancelling is what mostly killed DCUO, and its gonna continue to kill things for this game here as its causing more and more players to quit.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

Telvar loot, that element destroyed IC as a viable and fun pvp playground and is probably the major reason why its so desolate now.

Master_Kas · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

Alexandrious wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »

inbalances between classes. Stamina NB and sorcerers are 90% of the top 10 players in EU servers... When 2 classes dominate so much, you now their is something wrong

Corrected.

But I agree

Edit: #Nerf Sorc and all forms of stamina attacks

Alexandrious wrote: »

Highly exploitable animation cancelling.

Lmao exploitable, ZOS said it's intended and not an exploit, not even a bug. Learn what an exploit is

Lmao ZOS said it's intended. @Master_Kas please learn what trying to cover your ass is since your a noob Cuz no matter what ZoS says, they stated the first time animation cancelling came around that it was NOT intended and they will look into it, found out, they cannot fix it due to having to either redesign the ENTIRE combat system, add a GCD to EVERYTHING, or make attacks that are cancelled do a portion to no damage, all three options being very bad for the game. So instead they decided to try and cover their arse and hope people will forget what they first stated on animation cancelling, that its an exploit, a very MACRO-ABLE exploit.

Please dont tell me to learn anything, seeing as I played mmos 3x longer than you or anyone else from the WoW generation. Animation cancelling is what mostly killed DCUO, and its gonna continue to kill things for this game here as its causing more and more players to quit.

Lol wowgeneration, I've never even played WOW.

And yes you need to learn what an exploit actually is like doublemundus was for example.

Salty boy is salty.

Edit: not trying to "cover my ass". I openly admit that I use animation canceling nomatter which character I play. It's still no exploit.

And yes they said it's intended, end of story

You clearly have no clue about this game if you think animation canceling is what kills it lol.

Yuke · October 2015

Zergs

Its obvious, isnt it?

Mauz · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

Gear grind, CP grind or with other words a system which is not supporting competitive gameplay for everyone.

Rylana · October 2015

1v1 - fine
2v2 - fine
10v10 - fine
20v20 - fine
50v50 - ehhh this is still fine but its starting to lag up

20v10 - fine if the 10 are strong players and the 20 are relatively weak

90v10 - what in the actual hell, and whats worse is that this has become the NORMAL mode of play on most campaigns. Whole goddamned factions stacking everyone together on each objective. wtf

Aoife32001 · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

PvP is hyper repetitive with no real sense of accomplishment. When we took or defended a castle in Lineage 2, that was an accomplishment. Here, we take/defend 9 identical castles in 10 minutes and repeat the process over and over and over... There is no reason to or sense of pride in owning any given--or even all--castles.

Add that on top of the generally unimpressive rewards for campaign completion, and PvP feels boring and useless as a whole. It is by far the most disappointing aspect of ESO for me.

riverdragon72 · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

endless endless endless nightblade fear spam

Bane_of_Fringe · October 2015

Aoife32001 wrote: »

PvP is hyper repetitive with no real sense of accomplishment. When we took or defended a castle in Lineage 2, that was an accomplishment. Here, we take/defend 9 identical castles in 10 minutes and repeat the process over and over and over... There is no reason to or sense of pride in owning any given--or even all--castles.

Add that on top of the generally unimpressive rewards for campaign completion, and PvP feels boring and useless as a whole. It is by far the most disappointing aspect of ESO for me.

A good year ago I had made a draft while drunk in the middle of the night about ideas and to have an open discussion about guilds owning and maintaining the castles. But because I was drunk and it was the middle of the night, where I probably hasn't slept for awhile, I never posted. Bet I still have it too.

Fyaal · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

Lag/ FPS performance in big fights really ruins it for me.

AbraXuSeXile · October 2015

Everything this latest patch did... 1.6 was worse than 1.5 but at least you could find pvp.

BigTone · October 2015

Zergs

Rylana wrote: »

1v1 - fine
2v2 - fine
10v10 - fine
20v20 - fine
50v50 - ehhh this is still fine but its starting to lag up

20v10 - fine if the 10 are strong players and the 20 are relatively weak

90v10 - what in the actual hell, and whats worse is that this has become the NORMAL mode of play on most campaigns. Whole goddamned factions stacking everyone together on each objective. wtf

I try to find good fights on Haderus, but it seems to always be unbalanced numbers between AD and DC. When my own faction outnumbers the opponent 2 to 1 guess what? I'm *** bored. It seems that AD and DC cant get their pops on at the same time. Just now my stats showed 87 AD at fort warden. It was a sight to behold.

Something needs to be done to give smaller groups a chance to defeat larger ones. Yes the larger group should have the advantage, but I, and I'm assuming the majority of us, want a game where the outcome is determined by player skill and group cohesion, not pure numbers.

contact.opiumb16_ESO · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

ThyIronFist wrote: »

Lets see, a clueless company that left PvP in the dark since day 1.

Imagine the potential of this game with some of the changes to Cyrodiil reverted or never have happened in the first place. Battlegrounds, arena's, duelling... but nope. They cared about the PvE and the roleplayers first. Then the console sellout and now they give the PC players a PvE grinding update every 6 months to keep them satisfied.

But yeah... lets sum it up:

- Zergs
- Lack of objectives
- CP and Telvar Stone grind
- Useless rewards
- Removal of camps, oil catapult snare made purgeable, meatbag healing debuff nerfed and my class nerfed to fuck every single patch, ground oil removed, balance being an absolute joke in general when it comes to everything tbh
- The developers not listening and Brian Wheeler seems to be going on a 3-month holiday every now and then, but then he suddenly appears out of nowhere to give us an update on PvP, then disappears again
- No cap on CP in PvP and no catch up system
- Weak sieges (they got buffed yes I know but they are still weak as fuck if you're fighting anything organized or when you're vastly outnumbered or trying to hold a defensive position) and since every pathetic zergboy's skillbar looks like this: AOE PURGE HEAL HEAL AOE there is literally no point in trying anymore
- Having 50000 buff campaigns
- Former Emp passives removed because apparently they were unbalanced and the CP system is not = ZOS logic
- Lets not talk about the performance cause every time I think about the performance in this game I feel my *** are going to explode out of frustration

To be honest not much of a point going back anymore, I came back after 3 months in preparation for the Imperial City but now that the only thing I was looking forward to has gone to absolute crap, there isn't really a point anymore. Not to mention that a lot of friends and guildies also gave up.

Haha Sainur you are right, except one thing : you Renegades kicked me off because "i didn't play enough". Guildies are still here but in different guilds now

kayPOW · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

On EU it seems like AD win every singly Campaign purely because they outnumber every other faction.

EP once were ahead for a couple of hours, it was GREAT to actually play PvP and enjoy it. Then AD seemed to come online and it all went sour from there.

That and I'm really bad at PvP :P

tinythinker · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

I am terrible at PvP with all basic build types. So, I guess that *I* am what ruins PvP for me. Though I am worse at it now than pre-1.6, which is the last time I was able to actually enjoy PvP on a regular basis.

RoamingRiverElk · October 2015

Zergs

The incremental and consistent removal of small scale PvP by removing all the ways of doing combat outnumbered.

Of which mainly:

Slow ultimate gain that isn't faster when fighting outnumbered.
Blocking nerf, roll dodging nerf.

Also, insistence on having aoe caps, and on the other hand, healing / purges / shields which affect many players are too strong - they affect too many.

Sureshawt · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

Performance issues when they occur although things have been improved on that front. Having a blast for the most part.

Lefty_Lucy · October 2015

Zergs

Small scale PvP is love.

Small scale PvP is life.

Elsonso · October 2015

Mostly, the other players. Meh.

nordickittyhawk · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

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nordickittyhawk · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

Guys id like to ADD when i say zerg i mean the steel tornado, healing springs, barrier etc (the lag that it causes can go towards that vote) Thank you

Kwivur · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

DesertDweller99 wrote: »

What's wrong with Zergs? That's strategy. Zerg vs Zerg vs Zerg is an EPIC battle and the lag is well worth it. Being run over by Zergs suck, but that's just part of the game. When I'm part of a Zerg and we run over everyone, it feels so good.

My only complaint is IC players are counted against the campaign population.

I see red...

nordickittyhawk · October 2015

Or all of the above..?

Kwivur wrote: »

DesertDweller99 wrote: »

What's wrong with Zergs? That's strategy. Zerg vs Zerg vs Zerg is an EPIC battle and the lag is well worth it. Being run over by Zergs suck, but that's just part of the game. When I'm part of a Zerg and we run over everyone, it feels so good.

My only complaint is IC players are counted against the campaign population.

I see red...

@Kwivur all i see is a slide show of steel tornados

contact.opiumb16_ESO · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

nordickittyhawk wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

DesertDweller99 wrote: »

What's wrong with Zergs? That's strategy. Zerg vs Zerg vs Zerg is an EPIC battle and the lag is well worth it. Being run over by Zergs suck, but that's just part of the game. When I'm part of a Zerg and we run over everyone, it feels so good.

My only complaint is IC players are counted against the campaign population.

I see red...

@Kwivur all i see is a slide show of steel tornados

And tp strikes

contact.opiumb16_ESO · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Everything this latest patch did... 1.6 was worse than 1.5 but at least you could find pvp.

Hey Abraxus i think you meant "at least in 1.6 we can still massively exploit"

Prodigy1971 · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

LAG.

Mojomonkeyman · October 2015

Zergs

Ignore my initial choice please.

Health desyncs it is, nothing more irritating than being unable to trust your own health bar.

Glaiceana · October 2015

Other (type reason please)

I voted Other because at the moment, its the random loading screens that appear. I'd be running along to get somewhere or actually in a battle, and suddenly LOADING SCREEN, and I'm just panicking that I'm about to get killed with no control over it! Its quite funny actually xD

Jules · October 2015

No real reason to win the war/campaign

Pain In The Axe wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Pain In The Axe wrote: »

Zos progressively taking away all possible advantages small groups had over the zergtards. GG eso see you all on battlefront 3

I spent months promoting you.... You made a difference.... Then you disappeared....

Yeah well most of our crew quit with 1.7, its a garbage update, little pvp much pve.
You'll find the remnants of short bus in Kholes i believe. To be honest I didnt want to find myself running around in some zerg guild on DC(since there are plenty of them) My good friend unruh on ep stayed to a traditional 12 man I went and played with(and will continue to do so If i log in) but this game just isnt as fun as it was in 1.4-1.6 It really just destroyed the small group mentality by weakening the potential of good players and its just more frustrating than fulfilling these days

Miss ya pain