ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

Any chance you can maybe do this in any of the text chat threads?

CP sounded like a good idea. Then it was added and it turned out for PvP players and people who try to do trials and get onto the leader board it really wasn't. I agree if you put more time in you should be more powerful. I disagree with putting more time in and being able to solo a 12 man group in PvP because they just can't hurt you,

For casual players there are great. I am sure they wish more things were account wide to avoid repeated grinds. but these guys wouldn't even notice a CP cap.

change mine to "hell *** no"

this will not attract new players. grinders pay for exp pots, so they are valuable. its a moronic move for this type of system. they should fix the mechanics behind the system they didn't pay due diligence to. the cap is crap, either its going to still be "too" high and the weak links in the community will whine and cry. or it will be too low, and the grinders will whine and cry. the catch up ZoS will put it in not fully tested (regardless to what they say) and it will either make the cap too easier or be irrelevant because its not enough.

this is NOT the first time this type of system has been implemented.... all your speculation about "content balancing issues", "attracting new players", is utter bull ***. there are other games with this same type of system that are still around. yes, now that the EQ community average is in the high thousands of AA's, they give you the OPTION to catch up by just pressing a button to get the basic AA covered.

I don't agree with it in the slightest and I have maybe 70 CP and am a huge casual.

IMO, the best method should be to make the CP itself depreciate the larger amount you have, I.E. First 3 C Point is worth 100% , Next 3 worth 99% so on and so forth. This softens the blow significantly with large gaps in champion points, but doesn't exactly negate the necessity to accrue them.

I think it would be hysterical if they separated PvP campaigns by CPs earned. If there's 100 players with more than 750 CPs I'd suspect maybe 5-10 of them are genuinely high skilled and good at PvP. The remainder will just be people with 10 hours plus a day to spend grinding mobs so they can 2 shot battle levelled or low CP chars and feel like a Don. To see them forced to play against only other high CP chars and get a short sharp shock would be hilarious

Putting a cap on per DLC is stupid, to put it mildly, because in a few months/years you will be back right where you started. At this point either decide to keep them or remove them and put something completely different in place, this is getting ridicules.

A long term solution needs to be put in place, and it isn't a CP cap, and keeping them is also not right.

Short term solution for now would be adding some pvp campaigns that disable the use of CP against players. However keep in mind that, like what is happening with trails, you'd be removing incentive to play.

PS: I have 278 CP at the time of posting this. I have been playing on the EU server for almost 6 months now, off and on.

I have 350 CP and I think the capp is a good thing. An alternative was to maybe increase how easy it was to get CP early on rather than later on. Like 1-100 could be obtained very quickly since the first 90 pts are crucial.

Mumyo wrote: »

Very good and very fair! it will offer diversity and punish the noobs who thought they rock when they just put months into grinding. VERY GOOD MOVE ZENIMAX! im impressed!

bull ***... no it won't do anything for diversity, there will will still be leeches, and those grinders deserve what they worked for.

every tank will have the tank mitigations, ever melee DPS will have the same melee expenses, every healer/caster DPs will have the same points. no diversity...

if you suck at PVP now, you will when they cap CPs. its siege warfare, its not head to head or hand to hand combat. learn the system...

if you want to PVP, then build your toon to PVP. if you want to PVE then build to PVE. you have to work for both, but you may not excel at both.

flohowyo wrote: »

and you my friend are the best example for a stupid cp grinder without any skill, who need's those CP's for pvp to have an advantage over real pvp player xD Cp cap is the best thing ever.. points should never go over skill and experianced player's.

no im not. im a PVE tank that gets rolled in PVP because im a PVE tank. no amount of CPs will change that. nice try at a *** poor counter argument.... but no you are wrong. i also rated 164 on the 30 day count down on the PVP server i play. i only have 213 CPs and they had little to do with my success.

okey maybe it is not you with alot of CP, but some well known pvp player's do have alot of them and it is just not fair ( in pvp ) to give em such a huge advantage because they no life the game.. that's all what i wanted to say.

flohowyo wrote: »

okey maybe it is not you with alot of CP, but some well known pvp player's do have alot of them and it is just not fair ( in pvp ) to give em such a huge advantage because they no life the game.. that's all what i wanted to say.

simple sollution, that has been brought up several times. open up non cp campaigns. or even better open up cp campaigns for several amounts of CP. 100, 250, 500 and 1000+ :P

not a nerf it is balance, that every player has the same points.. you can still make different builds with cp, and that's what they r for.. not to reward ppl who grind.

Well, I am just below the cap now, but I guarantee you that if they do this I will on the day I reach 501 cancel my paid subscription, and leave it unpaid until they reverse themselves. I was a paid subscriber to get the XP scrolls to move faster in CP, and since they are now going to dumb-down everything to cater to the cheap and the slow, I will give them what they want and will join that crowd. They will not get another $1 from me after they ripped me off by stealing my money for faster CP, just to take it away later.

If the game is only to be those hard-core gamers then keep it.

Sharkano wrote: »

You know, the fundamental problem with this game is there are a boatload of whiners here, and ZOS always listens to them and nerfbats everything. This company sold subscriptions and XP scrolls on the basis of a 3600 CP system to encourage sales so people could try and get more CP faster. Then, when one rightfully complains about being ripped off, people like Floho attack you for being a "cap farmer," lol. Well, this company sold that right, then stole it away. Shame on ZOS, and shame on me if I ever give them another $1 -- I won't.

i dont attack anybody, i just disagree with guys who play games to farm point's