PC NA Trueflame October Campaign

manny254 · October 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

I personally would rather get nightcapped every night than have to deal with the triple raid 60men group of the Wizard every primetime on Azura Star which bring my fps down to 25 with medium graphics.

We thank the Wizard for making this possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qvRQIrwzBk

Lord_Hev · October 2015

Woah! Talk about a trip of nostalgia, I just got Deja Vu of Ol' Thornblade!

Jules · October 2015

Nice 50 man to dethrone meth, hypocrite.

Hektik_V · October 2015

Dear AD,

I am amazed at the words that come from your mouth; you claim to want good (competitive) PVP while you morning cap to destroy any chance of that. This afternoon I woke up at 2pm eastern to look at the map to find it completely yellow and all the scrolls buried in Southern keeps. I think you only want competition when you have the advantage. If the competitive PVP is to survive and grow as you desire than you really need to think hard about what you will reap if this continues.

Ernest145 · October 2015

Hektik_V wrote: »

Dear AD,

I am amazed at the words that come from your mouth; you claim to want good (competitive) PVP while you morning cap to destroy any chance of that. This afternoon I woke up at 2pm eastern to look at the map to find it completely yellow and all the scrolls buried in Southern keeps. I think you only want competition when you have the advantage. If the competitive PVP is to survive and grow as you desire than you really need to think hard about what you will reap if this continues.

I also remember yesterday at about 11am pacific when I went online and into truelflame Taran's zerg rolled over 5 ep to take the scrolls which is fine because yes you should go for scrolls if they are there. But after that the one bar of EP decided to cap Farragut and Kingscrest but once we attacked arrius of course Taran's zerg and the rest of the 3 bar ad rolled us back to our gates. Please don't act like you don't do the same thing Taran it just shows how immature and delusional you are. Also, really you want healthy and competitive pvp yet you are asking DC to team up with you to fight EP???

Pchela · October 2015

I haven't been able to play in a few days, but I will say that AD did something similar to dethrone Alomar this past weekend (Saturday I believe)... there were 4 EP defending. I left shortly after and from what I heard we got shoved to our gates.

so yo, what up??

Ghostbane · October 2015

Hektik_V wrote: »

I woke up at 2pm.

Jelly.

kevlarto_ESO · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

Dear EP,

I am amazed at the words that come from your mouth; you claim to want good (competitive) PVP while you night cap to destroy any chance of that. This morning I woke up at 7am eastern to look at the map to find it completely red and all the scrolls buried in Eastern keeps. I think you only want competition when you have the advantage. If the competitive PVP is to survive and grow as you desire than you really need to think hard about what you will reap if this continues.

Dear DC,

I am concerned over your ability to identify the true enemy of this campaign. You have since the start of this campaign ignored EP and continually attacked AD. While AD has made every effort to ignore your scrolls and the north. We have done our best to show you the path to EP so that together we could after several long months of EP dominance beat the horde. I see our hope of any intelligent leadership of your faction was a waste of time. Your scrolls now belong to EP as of this morning. We do not have to retrieve them, in fact we can simply take the keeps where they reside and leave them there and push on to EP scrolls. Maybe, we could take them and drop them in ROE and Brindle for you to retrieve them later. But what would be the point? DC will continue to push south into AD territory so perhaps it would be in our best interest to take them for the 3% buffs so that we can better fight on two fronts. Remember little children this is about the score at the end of 30 days. You will be last again because you simply cant read the map and make good choices.

This morning Meth was crowned EMP on TF, took all the keeps, all the scrolls, jumped roughly 300pts over AD, and roughly 500 pts over DC. The race is still close both AD and DC could vanquish the EP Horde and force them to 3rd place if we work together. Remember, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", so if DC wishes to help accomplish this then show some initiative and start working towards the common goal.

Taran

I agree, both Ad and DC have a common enemy, in three faction warfare the 2 factions getting bullied. start working the bully, but I wonder how many smurfs are true blue and not just blue on the outside with a red center, if you switched factions to Blue, I wish you would support your new faction please. Lets make TF a real three faction campaign.

I wish ZOS would stop letting points accumulate in Cyrodiil when the sever is offline for maintenance.

PainfulFAFA · October 2015

Jules wrote: »

Nice 50 man to dethrone meth, hypocrite.

LOL
all he did was start a pug with like 5 of his core and rolled the map. One of his core got emp that day and he proceeded to farm you guys kinda like how you do it. See how nobody likes it?

Reds nightcapped early monday. guess what. there will be payback

Edit: I was there when they got emp. I was there when yellow ninja'ed chalman from both blues and reds. We were basically coordinating in zone. Reds also had their own little zerg (15-20) but they wiped to us. They even wiped to the blue group defending chalman despite their numbers. Reds werent pvdoored because they had a group going except ours was better. I soloed roe but got help. I soloed alessia but got help. Once people realized how many AD were online Taran started a pug and the rest is QQ.

k2blader · October 2015

Lorkhan wrote: »

RE: EP nightcapping

people of different parts of the world playing at their normal zone time. to them, you are the nightcapper

Just because you can PvDoor keeps when no one else is around doesn't mean you should.

If you do, you are a skill less night capper.

WebBull · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

Dear DC,

I am concerned over your ability to identify the true enemy of this campaign. You have since the start of this campaign ignored EP and continually attacked AD. While AD has made every effort to ignore your scrolls and the north. We have done our best to show you the path to EP so that together we could after several long months of EP dominance beat the horde. I see our hope of any intelligent leadership of your faction was a waste of time. Your scrolls now belong to EP as of this morning. We do not have to retrieve them, in fact we can simply take the keeps where they reside and leave them there and push on to EP scrolls. Maybe, we could take them and drop them in ROE and Brindle for you to retrieve them later. But what would be the point? DC will continue to push south into AD territory so perhaps it would be in our best interest to take them for the 3% buffs so that we can better fight on two fronts. Remember little children this is about the score at the end of 30 days. You will be last again because you simply cant read the map and make good choices.

This morning Meth was crowned EMP on TF, took all the keeps, all the scrolls, jumped roughly 300pts over AD, and roughly 500 pts over DC. The race is still close both AD and DC could vanquish the EP Horde and force them to 3rd place if we work together. Remember, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", so if DC wishes to help accomplish this then show some initiative and start working towards the common goal.

Taran

Perhaps AD is the true enemy in this campaign. Putting the EP night capping aside (since the map is usually all red or yellow in the mornings), the constant massive AD zergs in prime time is shameful. Running around in 2+ raids at times. With that kind zerg force, not sure why you would need DC's help to accomplish anything.

Jules · October 2015

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Nice 50 man to dethrone meth, hypocrite.

LOL
all he did was start a pug with like 5 of his core and rolled the map. One of his core got emp that day and he proceeded to farm you guys kinda like how you do it. See how nobody likes it?

Reds nightcapped early monday. guess what. there will be payback

Edit: I was there when they got emp. I was there when yellow ninja'ed chalman from both blues and reds. We were basically coordinating in zone with. I soloed roe but got help. I soloed alessia but got help. Once people realized how many AD were online Taran started a pug and the rest is QQ.

Yeah idk whatever nonsense you're talking about.
It's pretty simple. Don't come to the forums whining about wanting competitive fights and then steamroll the map with a 50 man. That doesn't take any kind of skill, or incite any kind of competition.

GRxKnight · October 2015

WebBull wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Dear DC,

I am concerned over your ability to identify the true enemy of this campaign. You have since the start of this campaign ignored EP and continually attacked AD. While AD has made every effort to ignore your scrolls and the north. We have done our best to show you the path to EP so that together we could after several long months of EP dominance beat the horde. I see our hope of any intelligent leadership of your faction was a waste of time. Your scrolls now belong to EP as of this morning. We do not have to retrieve them, in fact we can simply take the keeps where they reside and leave them there and push on to EP scrolls. Maybe, we could take them and drop them in ROE and Brindle for you to retrieve them later. But what would be the point? DC will continue to push south into AD territory so perhaps it would be in our best interest to take them for the 3% buffs so that we can better fight on two fronts. Remember little children this is about the score at the end of 30 days. You will be last again because you simply cant read the map and make good choices.

This morning Meth was crowned EMP on TF, took all the keeps, all the scrolls, jumped roughly 300pts over AD, and roughly 500 pts over DC. The race is still close both AD and DC could vanquish the EP Horde and force them to 3rd place if we work together. Remember, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", so if DC wishes to help accomplish this then show some initiative and start working towards the common goal.

Taran

Perhaps AD is the true enemy in this campaign. Putting the EP night capping aside (since the map is usually all red or yellow in the mornings), the constant massive AD zergs in prime time is shameful. Running around in 2+ raids at times. With that kind zerg force, not sure why you would need DC's help to accomplish anything.

And since TKO moved to TF, we can all assume that every Tuesday Thursday and Sunday will be unplayable because of their 60 man groups. Yet it amazes me how they can run that many people and still get rolled time and time again.

Manoekin · October 2015

As far as campaign scoring goes (if people still care about that) DC has always aimed high for second place. Collectively as a faction, their actions make little strategic sense.

As for night capping, I don't really care because all I want to do is PvP.

PainfulFAFA · October 2015

Jules wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Nice 50 man to dethrone meth, hypocrite.

LOL
all he did was start a pug with like 5 of his core and rolled the map. One of his core got emp that day and he proceeded to farm you guys kinda like how you do it. See how nobody likes it?

Reds nightcapped early monday. guess what. there will be payback

Edit: I was there when they got emp. I was there when yellow ninja'ed chalman from both blues and reds. We were basically coordinating in zone with. I soloed roe but got help. I soloed alessia but got help. Once people realized how many AD were online Taran started a pug and the rest is QQ.

Yeah idk whatever nonsense you're talking about.
It's pretty simple. Don't come to the forums whining about wanting competitive fights and then steamroll the map with a 50 man. That doesn't take any kind of skill, or incite any kind of competition.

The only nonsense here is the 50-man zerg you claim is what took the map on Sunday before primetime when it was actually 5 dudes who picked up pugs.

That 50 man zerg you claim to have seen was prolly tko raid night but they weren't the ones who got emp for AD. EP has their own version of tko as well which is why it was created in the first place.

The only real problem here is the nightcapping which is why a gentlemens agreement was put on the table but that obviously wont work
Its ok for EP to take the map at night but NOT OK for an alliance to bring some numbers into PvP?

Zheg · October 2015

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Dear EP,

I am amazed at the words that come from your mouth; you claim to want good (competitive) PVP while you night cap to destroy any chance of that. This morning I woke up at 7am eastern to look at the map to find it completely red and all the scrolls buried in Eastern keeps. I think you only want competition when you have the advantage. If the competitive PVP is to survive and grow as you desire than you really need to think hard about what you will reap if this continues.

Dear DC,

I am concerned over your ability to identify the true enemy of this campaign. You have since the start of this campaign ignored EP and continually attacked AD. While AD has made every effort to ignore your scrolls and the north. We have done our best to show you the path to EP so that together we could after several long months of EP dominance beat the horde. I see our hope of any intelligent leadership of your faction was a waste of time. Your scrolls now belong to EP as of this morning. We do not have to retrieve them, in fact we can simply take the keeps where they reside and leave them there and push on to EP scrolls. Maybe, we could take them and drop them in ROE and Brindle for you to retrieve them later. But what would be the point? DC will continue to push south into AD territory so perhaps it would be in our best interest to take them for the 3% buffs so that we can better fight on two fronts. Remember little children this is about the score at the end of 30 days. You will be last again because you simply cant read the map and make good choices.

This morning Meth was crowned EMP on TF, took all the keeps, all the scrolls, jumped roughly 300pts over AD, and roughly 500 pts over DC. The race is still close both AD and DC could vanquish the EP Horde and force them to 3rd place if we work together. Remember, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", so if DC wishes to help accomplish this then show some initiative and start working towards the common goal.

Taran

I agree, both Ad and DC have a common enemy, in three faction warfare the 2 factions getting bullied. start working the bully, but I wonder how many smurfs are true blue and not just blue on the outside with a red center, if you switched factions to Blue, I wish you would support your new faction please. Lets make TF a real three faction campaign.

I wish ZOS would stop letting points accumulate in Cyrodiil when the sever is offline for maintenance.

We are probably the most objective focused guild in blue, so much so that we will stubbornly throw ourselves againt brk/chalman fighting 2 to 1 or worse numbers - for hours. I've been blue from the start, and the 'red centers' prefer to fight red most of the time because of rivalries and respect for people they used to pvp with. We made a 13 hour long emp push Friday fighting both of your hordes, and did the same Saturday. You're salty because the rest of blue (rightfully) fought you on Sunday when we weren't on and you were rolling 60 deep with an emp? I played a bit on Sunday and if we had a group going I would have targeted yellow for the sole fact that anyone running as many people as you guys did in one spot needs to be discouraged from doing so. When you run that many, the window to somehow muster enough dc to defend ash/ales is significantly reduced should you decide to push north while some blue hit red. The most strategic thing to do is keep constant southern pressure so we know when your horde tries to go north and can respond in time, and address red only if they push past bleaks. 12/20 people cannot hold a keep against those numbers in this meta, so if we don't already have sufficient defenders at our keeps, and someone keeping pressure toward roe, our inner keeps will just get steamrolled.

So, even without us there, sounds like blue made all the right calls. Leaving blues scrolls alone does not mean we will only hit red all night, and it's silly to expect that. Furthermore, should blue and yellow actually team up and push red to their gates, how long do you think reds will stay on trueflame and keep a competitive balance going? Maybe you need to rethink what a healthy pvp environment should look like.

If red oversteps, we'll challenge them. If yellow oversteps, we'll set our sights on you. That's the way it should be.

Forestd16b14_ESO · October 2015

In case you haven't notice PvP is dieing reguardless what campaign it is.

Zavus · October 2015

AD gets straight bullied because all they do is MORNING CAP. Like seriously, you're one of the people running in that 50+ man zerg PvDooring when it's Locked AD vs 1-2 bar EP/DC. And then you have the audacity to complain about something that you yourself take part of during a different time of the day?

"Oh no, EP is PvDooring at the middle of the night, but it's okay if I do the same thing during early hours." Get real. Just face it, AD is straight garbage. You ever wondered why you hardly have anything when the campaign is at the peak of competition?

You'll be lucky to have your home keeps when the campaign is hoppin and all the guilds are on.

PainfulFAFA · October 2015

Zavus wrote: »

AD gets straight bullied because all they do is MORNING CAP. Like seriously, you're one of the people running in that 50+ man zerg PvDooring when it's Locked AD vs 1-2 bar EP/DC. And then you have the audacity to complain about something that you yourself take part of during a different time of the day?

"Oh no, EP is PvDooring at the middle of the night, but it's okay if I do the same thing during early hours." Get real. Just face it, AD is straight garbage. You ever wondered why you hardly have anything when the campaign is at the peak of competition?

You'll be lucky to have your home keeps when the campaign is hoppin and all the guilds are on.

Nice try EP!

Jules · October 2015

Just gonna leave this here.
TF, Primetime, 10/5/15

Flagging our home keeps when they don't even have scrolls in them. Stay classy.

Ishammael · October 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

As far as campaign scoring goes (if people still care about that) DC has always aimed high for second place. Collectively as a faction, their actions make little strategic sense.

As for night capping, I don't really care because all I want to do is PvP.

We care, there is just nothing in general we can do. I can run my group strategically, but DC has zero oceanic presence on TF. Thus, everything just gets rolled before evening on the east coast.

LazyLewis · October 2015

I use to complain about this stuff but then I learned to accept people play when they play. You can't stop them playing at different times. Should people move their schedule so you're always onto defend? Only issue I have in the game is when people don't know when to leave campaigns. If your faction has a presence 24 hours a day leave and find some where competitive to play!

Makkir · October 2015

Last night on Azura's AD was attacking DC keeps while EP was pushing Emp again.

Not a shocker though, always happens.

manny254 · October 2015

Makkir wrote: »

Last night on Azura's AD was attacking DC keeps while EP was pushing Emp again.

Not a shocker though, always happens.

You mean that DC pvdoored Roe, Fare, and attempted to capture BM(While we had no scrolls). Of course we where the only AD group on the server and they knew we where not defending at the time. So instead of using us as a distraction DC players whispered us and told us that they where going to "Punish" us. The DC player referred to a time earlier in the night where DC was smart enough to run a Scroll between 2 AD Keeps and Sej. Then where quite angry when their multiple raids where unable to wipe a group of 16.

We only had 10 people at this time in the night so we decided to see if DC would be able to "Punish" us when we where actually in the fight. We pushed Ash and essentially farmed 30-40 DC in the NE tower. We pushed into the inner and because of a lack of numbers where unable to camp the bodies of all the DC, Clear the Keep, and flip flags. In the time it took us to wipe EP captured Glade and took over the siege on Ash.

We only had 7 people still awake at this points, but we ran back up to Ash to claim the tick. As seen in this video I linked previously in the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qvRQIrwzBk

Thanks Azura Star DC please "Punish" us with more ticks like this.

frozywozy · October 2015

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Nice 50 man to dethrone meth, hypocrite.

LOL
all he did was start a pug with like 5 of his core and rolled the map. One of his core got emp that day and he proceeded to farm you guys kinda like how you do it. See how nobody likes it?

Reds nightcapped early monday. guess what. there will be payback

Edit: I was there when they got emp. I was there when yellow ninja'ed chalman from both blues and reds. We were basically coordinating in zone with. I soloed roe but got help. I soloed alessia but got help. Once people realized how many AD were online Taran started a pug and the rest is QQ.

Yeah idk whatever nonsense you're talking about.
It's pretty simple. Don't come to the forums whining about wanting competitive fights and then steamroll the map with a 50 man. That doesn't take any kind of skill, or incite any kind of competition.

The only nonsense here is the 50-man zerg you claim is what took the map on Sunday before primetime when it was actually 5 dudes who picked up pugs.

That 50 man zerg you claim to have seen was prolly tko raid night but they weren't the ones who got emp for AD. EP has their own version of tko as well which is why it was created in the first place.

The only real problem here is the nightcapping which is why a gentlemens agreement was put on the table but that obviously wont work
Its ok for EP to take the map at night but NOT OK for an alliance to bring some numbers into PvP?

There is a difference between bringing numbers into PvP, for example bringing one raid to flag Brk, one raid to flag Arrius and a last one to flag Drake and stack all 3 raids on top of each other to swarm one keep at a time and decrease performances of the whole server in the meantime such as what the Wizard does on Azura Star.

Anazasi · October 2015

Dear EP,

Please stop tea-bagging me. It's rather embarrassing when I try to oblige and all I find are little balls and small ***' attached to funny little boys. please grow the f$$#@ up, tea-bagging is so last year.

Seraph702 · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

Dear EP,

Please stop tea-bagging me. It's rather embarrassing when I try to oblige and all I find are little balls and small ***' attached to funny little boys. please grow the f$$#@ up, tea-bagging is so last year.

Stop being so salty. lol go back and farm the EP that bag you :P

-Unruh

Manoekin · October 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

As far as campaign scoring goes (if people still care about that) DC has always aimed high for second place. Collectively as a faction, their actions make little strategic sense.

As for night capping, I don't really care because all I want to do is PvP.

We care, there is just nothing in general we can do. I can run my group strategically, but DC has zero oceanic presence on TF. Thus, everything just gets rolled before evening on the east coast.

That's fine. I was more responding to people in the thread complaining that DC tends to avoid EP as much as the can. It's happened as far back as the 2nd round of 90-day campaigns that I can remember. DC pretty much knows they can't win a campaign that's super populated, and so they don't try to. It's dumb to complain about it.

Also what Mojican said basically for that guy talking about Azura's... It's another example of the DC mindset.

SleepyTroll · October 2015

What do you expect are dear friends from Australia to do during the night who love to pvp?

hammayolettuce · October 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

As far as campaign scoring goes (if people still care about that) DC has always aimed high for second place. Collectively as a faction, their actions make little strategic sense.

As for night capping, I don't really care because all I want to do is PvP.

We care, there is just nothing in general we can do. I can run my group strategically, but DC has zero oceanic presence on TF. Thus, everything just gets rolled before evening on the east coast.

That's fine. I was more responding to people in the thread complaining that DC tends to avoid EP as much as the can. It's happened as far back as the 2nd round of 90-day campaigns that I can remember. DC pretty much knows they can't win a campaign that's super populated, and so they don't try to. It's dumb to complain about it.

Also what Mojican said basically for that guy talking about Azura's... It's another example of the DC mindset.

But Mano ... DC won like the last few iterations of Azura's Star in 1.6 when it was the most competitive campaign. My must you hurt me like this