PC NA Trueflame October Campaign

Anazasi · October 2015

Dear EP,

I am amazed at the words that come from your mouth; you claim to want good (competitive) PVP while you night cap to destroy any chance of that. This morning I woke up at 7am eastern to look at the map to find it completely red and all the scrolls buried in Eastern keeps. I think you only want competition when you have the advantage. If the competitive PVP is to survive and grow as you desire than you really need to think hard about what you will reap if this continues.

Dear DC,

I am concerned over your ability to identify the true enemy of this campaign. You have since the start of this campaign ignored EP and continually attacked AD. While AD has made every effort to ignore your scrolls and the north. We have done our best to show you the path to EP so that together we could after several long months of EP dominance beat the horde. I see our hope of any intelligent leadership of your faction was a waste of time. Your scrolls now belong to EP as of this morning. We do not have to retrieve them, in fact we can simply take the keeps where they reside and leave them there and push on to EP scrolls. Maybe, we could take them and drop them in ROE and Brindle for you to retrieve them later. But what would be the point? DC will continue to push south into AD territory so perhaps it would be in our best interest to take them for the 3% buffs so that we can better fight on two fronts. Remember little children this is about the score at the end of 30 days. You will be last again because you simply cant read the map and make good choices.

This morning Meth was crowned EMP on TF, took all the keeps, all the scrolls, jumped roughly 300pts over AD, and roughly 500 pts over DC. The race is still close both AD and DC could vanquish the EP Horde and force them to 3rd place if we work together. Remember, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", so if DC wishes to help accomplish this then show some initiative and start working towards the common goal.

Taran

Ishammael · October 2015

RE: EP nightcapping

Agreed, this stuff is toxic. Especially right before Maintenance. Leave home keeps -- take the scrolls if you must.

RE: DC leadership

EP had no meaningful significant presence most of the weekend and they had zero scrolls. AD stacked 3+ zergs on top of each other for most of Saturday and Sunday night (which was totally irresponsible, and lag made a nice comeback Sunday night). They were clearly to bigger threat. Who do you think we will attack?

EDIT: Obviously we will be double-team EP to get our *** back.

Psilent · October 2015

Was there Saturday afternoon with a group of 12 and fighting 60+ AD. Sunday, the same thing was going on, so went into IC to farm and found some fun small fights. IC has been a lot of fun recently since the large AD groups are now topside!

Anazasi · October 2015

I led the AD force Sunday afternoon. We took Emp and then took the EP scrolls. I had a group of 20 players. After the scrolls were capped my group stayed in Arrius. We did a few dolman, we did a few delves. We ignored everyone on the map. I will point out that we refused to move on DC's scrolls or home keeps. We did defend emperorship a few times at Alswell and Ash. HK stay on the RED side of the map till later in the evening (Eastern Time) till VE moved on ROE then we fought on two fronts the remainder of the night. DC needs to get there heads out of their asses as start pushing EP all the time like we do. EP can not stand up against two factions

_Chaos · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

I led the AD force Sunday afternoon. We took Emp and then took the EP scrolls. I had a group of 20 players. After the scrolls were capped my group stayed in Arrius. We did a few dolman, we did a few delves. We ignored everyone on the map. I will point out that we refused to move on DC's scrolls or home keeps. We did defend emperorship a few times at Alswell and Ash. HK stay on the RED side of the map till later in the evening (Eastern Time) till VE moved on ROE then we fought on two fronts the remainder of the night. DC needs to get there heads out of their asses as start pushing EP all the time like we do. EP can not stand up against two factions

You wonder why DC was fighting AD?

PS. VE raid night on a Sunday?! that's new

This campaign has been nothing but fun for the last week @ prime time. It's a pain taking everything back for the first hour but if more than one DC guild is on it's not that bad.

Psilent · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

I led the AD force Sunday afternoon. We took Emp and then took the EP scrolls. I had a group of 20 players. After the scrolls were capped my group stayed in Arrius. We did a few dolman, we did a few delves. We ignored everyone on the map. I will point out that we refused to move on DC's scrolls or home keeps. We did defend emperorship a few times at Alswell and Ash. HK stay on the RED side of the map till later in the evening (Eastern Time) till VE moved on ROE then we fought on two fronts the remainder of the night. DC needs to get there heads out of their asses as start pushing EP all the time like we do. EP can not stand up against two factions

Sounds like you're afraid to fight DC.

Anazasi · October 2015

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I led the AD force Sunday afternoon. We took Emp and then took the EP scrolls. I had a group of 20 players. After the scrolls were capped my group stayed in Arrius. We did a few dolman, we did a few delves. We ignored everyone on the map. I will point out that we refused to move on DC's scrolls or home keeps. We did defend emperorship a few times at Alswell and Ash. HK stay on the RED side of the map till later in the evening (Eastern Time) till VE moved on ROE then we fought on two fronts the remainder of the night. DC needs to get there heads out of their asses as start pushing EP all the time like we do. EP can not stand up against two factions

You wonder why DC was fighting AD?

PS. VE raid night on a Sunday?! that's new

This campaign has been nothing but fun for the last week @ prime time. It's a pain taking everything back for the first hour but if more than one DC guild is on it's not that bad.

And you though attacking ROE and Alessia was a good idea? I think you are color blind. EP had all there home keeps VE could have attacked them and made points and AP instead they chose to attack AD. I guess VE will be happy with third place again.

lifefrombelowb14_ESO · October 2015

Pretty sure when I entered the campaign I couldn't even step out of Arrius without hitting either a DC or AD zerg. It was pretty much an AD and DC map with EP cornered at Arrius with no scrolls. So we fought back for 2 days and took the map and DC and AD went and hid in the sewers or just quit. We didn't even have superior numbers, there was only 3 major raids and none of them were at or over 20 players. It's like the fight just went out of them.

Though I did find at roughly 430 am pacific 6 AD including the person who started the thread trying to night cap keeps while everyone was logged off since maintenance was about to start ....soooo lets talk about night capping?

Anazasi · October 2015

I almost spit my coffee out all over my desk.......

I'm East coast so I think you can do the math on this lie. I'm also over 40 and I log off around 11pm EST time at the latest. I get on around 9am EST time except for today. When I logged on at 7am EST time to find the map and all scrolls RED and with EP. Maybe you should troll a different thread like the one with images of the EP night cap.

I was able at 7am to find 5 other AD on to retake BM BB and Fare and the resources around Roe.

Ishammael · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I led the AD force Sunday afternoon. We took Emp and then took the EP scrolls. I had a group of 20 players. After the scrolls were capped my group stayed in Arrius. We did a few dolman, we did a few delves. We ignored everyone on the map. I will point out that we refused to move on DC's scrolls or home keeps. We did defend emperorship a few times at Alswell and Ash. HK stay on the RED side of the map till later in the evening (Eastern Time) till VE moved on ROE then we fought on two fronts the remainder of the night. DC needs to get there heads out of their asses as start pushing EP all the time like we do. EP can not stand up against two factions

You wonder why DC was fighting AD?

PS. VE raid night on a Sunday?! that's new

This campaign has been nothing but fun for the last week @ prime time. It's a pain taking everything back for the first hour but if more than one DC guild is on it's not that bad.

And you though attacking ROE and Alessia was a good idea? I think you are color blind. EP had all there home keeps VE could have attacked them and made points and AP instead they chose to attack AD. I guess VE will be happy with third place again.

VE wasn't on Sunday night. It was LoM and K-hole. Yes, we attacked Roe and alessia... we were trying to get Emp. EP had been a non factor all evening.

Regardless, TF has been a blast all week. Let's team up on EP for the next few days and make them come here and complain. Sound good?

Anazasi · October 2015

Absolutely. I'm happy to drive the horde back to hell.

I should add if DC want to claim Emp push the emp keeps stay away from deep south. We manage to take emp and EP scrolls so if you want to dethrone go for it take the emp keeps than smash EP at their gates. We are a patient group of angry elves we can wait for our turn.

Ghostbane · October 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

Regardless, TF has been a blast all week. Let's team up on EP for the next few days and make them come here and complain. Sound good?

Even if the team up doesn't happen, moar fun pls. So far so good. Keep it going.

Ishammael · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

Absolutely. I'm happy to drive the horde back to hell.

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Regardless, TF has been a blast all week. Let's team up on EP for the next few days and make them come here and complain. Sound good?

Even if the team up doesn't happen, moar fun pls. So far so good. Keep it going.

lez do dis

EDIT: Will probably do a Fare farm a couple of times. Gotsa get dem tasty ahhpeez from the yellow peasants.

lifefrombelowb14_ESO · October 2015

Well I'm Ima Man and I was fighting your templar at 430 (I was off by an hour) am along with another Templar, a DK, NB, and I dont know what else because he never got off the siege at Faregyl. I logged out after you flagged it at around 4:40 am my time. I was pretty much the only EP not in the sewer, even the spawn points were empty. So either your making stuff up or someone was on your account.

Zheg · October 2015

As DC, I pretty much just expect to wake up to an all red or all yellow map. We can complain about it as much as we'd like, but at some point you just have to face the reality that we don't have enough players in that timezone, and accept it. I feel like having a DC emp is more or less pointless right now as we don't have the late-night force that yellow/red are capable of mustering to actually defend it.

We came close to having a DC emp during primetime on Friday, but I'm starting to feel like in 2.1 it's going to be incredibly difficult to crown an emp on a competitive campaign during any time other than the silly night-cap window. It's good that crowning emp is difficult, and awful that it keeps happening because of stupid night-cappers. With the increased pops, when it's down to one last objective, the AD and EP that are already stacking literally 3+ raids in one spot are only encouraged to stack more. I know people sometimes have issues with the counting thing, and occasionally you get the pug that shouts "INC! 60 yellow!!" - so you roll your eyes because you know he's exaggerating the numbers. The problem is, now I find myself making that call-out, not exaggerating, and then dying to the backup raid that swoops in from stealth to aid the first 60

On the bright side, there are large-scale fights to be had, but, if anyone saw me jumping around a lot this weekend, it's because my jaw would drop so far down after seeing how many were in the yellow/red horde that it would keep hitting my space bar.

The lag did indeed make a comeback yesterday, but it was still better than it used to be, and was literally because there were close to 3 or 4 full raids of yellow at ash fighting about 20-25 DC.

As for DC pushing south, since it seems like yellow puts everyone logged into the campaign at one spot, if you're over at alessia or BRK, maybe you should consider ... I don't know... splitting up the horde and sending a handful of people to go to another keep like Roe. I promise, you can still be effective if you have less than the population of a small midwestern town at an objective.

To reinforce what has been said already, VE did not raid yesterday. We had at most 6 playing (in separate groups) during prime time, and then had a small sewers group late night. VE is (thankfully) not the only blue guild on Trueflame any more, so you should probably learn some names for your call-outs

Anazasi · October 2015

lifefrombelowb14_ESO wrote: »

Well I'm Ima Man and I was fighting your templar at 430 (I was off by an hour) am along with another Templar, a DK, NB, and I dont know what else because he never got off the siege at Faregyl. I logged out after you flagged it at around 4:40 am my time. I was pretty much the only EP not in the sewer, even the spawn points were empty. So either your making stuff up or someone was on your account.

think you need to look at the definition of a night cap. EP owned everything, every scroll, every keep. We were not the ones night capping we were frantically trying to reclaim what EP had already taken.

lifefrombelowb14_ESO · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

lifefrombelowb14_ESO wrote: »

Well I'm Ima Man and I was fighting your templar at 430 (I was off by an hour) am along with another Templar, a DK, NB, and I dont know what else because he never got off the siege at Faregyl. I logged out after you flagged it at around 4:40 am my time. I was pretty much the only EP not in the sewer, even the spawn points were empty. So either your making stuff up or someone was on your account.

think you need to look at the definition of a night cap. EP owned everything, every scroll, every keep. We were not the ones night capping we were frantically trying to reclaim what EP had already taken.

And we were fighting people the whole time till about 4am when the server went dead because maintenance was in an hour. You pretty much tried to sneak in during that window and take back keeps. I really don't care that you did. Kudos to you. But pretty much when I logged in for the day your faction had us pushed way back. So we pushed back and returned the favor. I really wish your faction had more of a round the clock presence because pretty much you poke at us all day and then run away at night just to complain about us pushing you back.

Anazasi · October 2015

I think the issue is perception. EP had AD on the ropes late sunday night 10pm est time. We had lost roe, alessia and fare. We were literally pin ponging between BM and BB defending scrolls. DC lost chal and came for ROE. Instead of doubling your efforts to retake chal and push ep you choose to attack AD. If DC wants to work on cooperation they need to stop thinking "well we cant beat EP lets attack AD. Allies come to the aid of each other. EP can not face both AD and DC and I am happy to work towards a unified front against them.

Anazasi · October 2015

lifefrombelowb14_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

lifefrombelowb14_ESO wrote: »

Well I'm Ima Man and I was fighting your templar at 430 (I was off by an hour) am along with another Templar, a DK, NB, and I dont know what else because he never got off the siege at Faregyl. I logged out after you flagged it at around 4:40 am my time. I was pretty much the only EP not in the sewer, even the spawn points were empty. So either your making stuff up or someone was on your account.

think you need to look at the definition of a night cap. EP owned everything, every scroll, every keep. We were not the ones night capping we were frantically trying to reclaim what EP had already taken.

And we were fighting people the whole time till about 4am when the server went dead because maintenance was in an hour. You pretty much tried to sneak in during that window and take back keeps. I really don't care that you did. Kudos to you. But pretty much when I logged in for the day your faction had us pushed way back. So we pushed back and returned the favor. I really wish your faction had more of a round the clock presence because pretty much you poke at us all day and then run away at night just to complain about us pushing you back.

Why take DC keeps and scrolls. They have not even been a threat to EP?
Oh yeah True EP fashion Night cap for PTS so you can claim another win.

Zheg · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

I think the issue is perception. EP had AD on the ropes late sunday night 10pm est time. We had lost roe, alessia and fare. We were literally pin ponging between BM and BB defending scrolls. DC lost chal and came for ROE. Instead of doubling your efforts to retake chal and push ep you choose to attack AD. If DC wants to work on cooperation they need to stop thinking "well we cant beat EP lets attack AD. Allies come to the aid of each other. EP can not face both AD and DC and I am happy to work towards a unified front against them.

Sorry, but the only time two alliances should (temporarily) fight with combined objectives is to dethrone an emp, or prevent an emp from the third alliance. Period.

Sunday started with a yellow emp, and you're complaining about DC fighting you instead of red?

DC was at 3 bar almost the entire night while you and red were pop-locked. We're not your pocket army to be expected to keep your alliance's emp (especially when you are far more guilty than red of stacking obscene numbers in one keep), and we will fight you too. If you don't want DC to go south, don't make the AP so juicy.

Ghostbane · October 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Absolutely. I'm happy to drive the horde back to hell.

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Regardless, TF has been a blast all week. Let's team up on EP for the next few days and make them come here and complain. Sound good?

Even if the team up doesn't happen, moar fun pls. So far so good. Keep it going.

lez do dis

EDIT: Will probably do a Fare farm a couple of times. Gotsa get dem tasty ahhpeez from the yellow peasants.

This may sound silly, but I really enjoy those Farm episodes. Having a respawn 10s away means I can run about like a carefree pillock trying new stuff, or reminiscing. I don't understand the players who 'hate' giving other players AP, it is an inevitability. That and tick building *coughs*

lifefrombelowb14_ESO · October 2015

I think the real reason is that populations are too spread among all the campaigns with some portions of the factions too unwilling or afraid to leave their safety campaigns for whatever reason. Right now on Trueflame I can name probably 2 DC guilds doing a majority of the work, about 5 major EP groups and probably twice as many smaller supporting units, but I cannot name a single AD unit on the field right now that I recognized as a solid group doing equivalent levels of work on the map. Our faction is very coordinated and when we move we all move towards a goal.

So pretty much what happens is the map you woke up to and the one I logged out of.

Anazasi · October 2015

Zheg wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I think the issue is perception. EP had AD on the ropes late sunday night 10pm est time. We had lost roe, alessia and fare. We were literally pin ponging between BM and BB defending scrolls. DC lost chal and came for ROE. Instead of doubling your efforts to retake chal and push ep you choose to attack AD. If DC wants to work on cooperation they need to stop thinking "well we cant beat EP lets attack AD. Allies come to the aid of each other. EP can not face both AD and DC and I am happy to work towards a unified front against them.

Sorry, but the only time two alliances should (temporarily) fight with combined objectives is to dethrone an emp, or prevent an emp from the third alliance. Period.

Sunday started with a yellow emp, and you're complaining about DC fighting you instead of red?

DC was at 3 bar almost the entire night while you and red were pop-locked. We're not your pocket army to be expected to keep your alliance's emp (especially when you are far more guilty than red of stacking obscene numbers in one keep), and we will fight you too. If you don't want DC to go south, don't make the AP so juicy.

Funny as this may seem but TKO was the yellow zerg last night. They finally came out of the sewers and graced the AD pvp population with their presence. You can bank on TKO to appear twice a week for their RAID nights other than that AD has only 3 guilds who mass more than 16 pvp players at primetime and only one guild that can field 16+ on 1st and second shift. So don't assume AD zergs anywhere near what EP can do ( we have a huge number of Care bears that like to crawl in the sewers.)

Ishammael · October 2015

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Absolutely. I'm happy to drive the horde back to hell.

Ghostbane wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Regardless, TF has been a blast all week. Let's team up on EP for the next few days and make them come here and complain. Sound good?

Even if the team up doesn't happen, moar fun pls. So far so good. Keep it going.

lez do dis

EDIT: Will probably do a Fare farm a couple of times. Gotsa get dem tasty ahhpeez from the yellow peasants.

This may sound silly, but I really enjoy those Farm episodes. Having a respawn 10s away means I can run about like a carefree pillock trying new stuff, or reminiscing. I don't understand the players who 'hate' giving other players AP, it is an inevitability. That and tick building *coughs*

Respect.

Part of these we run these farms is to force the group to focus on movement and coordination. Can't farm for *** if everyone scatters when ten thousand AD pours out of Fare. The farm location offers many LoS positions and several choke points for a group with good movement.

_Chaos · October 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I think the issue is perception. EP had AD on the ropes late sunday night 10pm est time. We had lost roe, alessia and fare. We were literally pin ponging between BM and BB defending scrolls. DC lost chal and came for ROE. Instead of doubling your efforts to retake chal and push ep you choose to attack AD. If DC wants to work on cooperation they need to stop thinking "well we cant beat EP lets attack AD. Allies come to the aid of each other. EP can not face both AD and DC and I am happy to work towards a unified front against them.

Sorry, but the only time two alliances should (temporarily) fight with combined objectives is to dethrone an emp, or prevent an emp from the third alliance. Period.

Sunday started with a yellow emp, and you're complaining about DC fighting you instead of red?

DC was at 3 bar almost the entire night while you and red were pop-locked. We're not your pocket army to be expected to keep your alliance's emp (especially when you are far more guilty than red of stacking obscene numbers in one keep), and we will fight you too. If you don't want DC to go south, don't make the AP so juicy.

Funny as this may seem but TKO was the yellow zerg last night. They finally came out of the sewers and graced the AD pvp population with their presence. You can bank on TKO to appear twice a week for their RAID nights other than that AD has only 3 guilds who mass more than 16 pvp players at primetime and only one guild that can field 16+ on 1st and second shift. So don't assume AD zergs anywhere near what EP can do ( we have a huge number of Care bears that like to crawl in the sewers.)

For sure! I get what you're saying, but.

We play the map for what it is at the time, there's no long-run in this game. Nobody really cares about scoring, it's about having good fights. AD was the emp and also had both of our inner ring home keeps.
You do understand this, no?

Anazasi · October 2015

Understand yes but I think there is a bigger picture when it comes to the map, score, and EP.

Ishammael · October 2015

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I think the issue is perception. EP had AD on the ropes late sunday night 10pm est time. We had lost roe, alessia and fare. We were literally pin ponging between BM and BB defending scrolls. DC lost chal and came for ROE. Instead of doubling your efforts to retake chal and push ep you choose to attack AD. If DC wants to work on cooperation they need to stop thinking "well we cant beat EP lets attack AD. Allies come to the aid of each other. EP can not face both AD and DC and I am happy to work towards a unified front against them.

Sorry, but the only time two alliances should (temporarily) fight with combined objectives is to dethrone an emp, or prevent an emp from the third alliance. Period.

Sunday started with a yellow emp, and you're complaining about DC fighting you instead of red?

DC was at 3 bar almost the entire night while you and red were pop-locked. We're not your pocket army to be expected to keep your alliance's emp (especially when you are far more guilty than red of stacking obscene numbers in one keep), and we will fight you too. If you don't want DC to go south, don't make the AP so juicy.

Funny as this may seem but TKO was the yellow zerg last night. They finally came out of the sewers and graced the AD pvp population with their presence. You can bank on TKO to appear twice a week for their RAID nights other than that AD has only 3 guilds who mass more than 16 pvp players at primetime and only one guild that can field 16+ on 1st and second shift. So don't assume AD zergs anywhere near what EP can do ( we have a huge number of Care bears that like to crawl in the sewers.)

For sure! I get what you're saying, but.

We play the map for what it is at the time, there's no long-run in this game. Nobody really cares about scoring, it's about having good fights. AD was the emp and also had both of our inner ring home keeps.
You do understand this, no?

Everyone plays the map ad it is when they log in.

The long run is that the game remains healthy and functioning, and that players don't quit.

_Chaos · October 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I think the issue is perception. EP had AD on the ropes late sunday night 10pm est time. We had lost roe, alessia and fare. We were literally pin ponging between BM and BB defending scrolls. DC lost chal and came for ROE. Instead of doubling your efforts to retake chal and push ep you choose to attack AD. If DC wants to work on cooperation they need to stop thinking "well we cant beat EP lets attack AD. Allies come to the aid of each other. EP can not face both AD and DC and I am happy to work towards a unified front against them.

Sorry, but the only time two alliances should (temporarily) fight with combined objectives is to dethrone an emp, or prevent an emp from the third alliance. Period.

Sunday started with a yellow emp, and you're complaining about DC fighting you instead of red?

DC was at 3 bar almost the entire night while you and red were pop-locked. We're not your pocket army to be expected to keep your alliance's emp (especially when you are far more guilty than red of stacking obscene numbers in one keep), and we will fight you too. If you don't want DC to go south, don't make the AP so juicy.

Funny as this may seem but TKO was the yellow zerg last night. They finally came out of the sewers and graced the AD pvp population with their presence. You can bank on TKO to appear twice a week for their RAID nights other than that AD has only 3 guilds who mass more than 16 pvp players at primetime and only one guild that can field 16+ on 1st and second shift. So don't assume AD zergs anywhere near what EP can do ( we have a huge number of Care bears that like to crawl in the sewers.)

For sure! I get what you're saying, but.

We play the map for what it is at the time, there's no long-run in this game. Nobody really cares about scoring, it's about having good fights. AD was the emp and also had both of our inner ring home keeps.
You do understand this, no?

Everyone plays the map ad it is when they log in.

The long run is that the game remains healthy and functioning, and that players don't quit.

Should have been more specific, sorry Ish! When I said there's no long-run vision in the game, I was referring to the Campaign scores and why DC didn't push EP to get them out of first place and instead hit Aleswell and Ash.

frozywozy · October 2015

I personally would rather get nightcapped every night than have to deal with the triple raid 60men group of the Wizard every primetime on Azura Star which bring my fps down to 25 with medium graphics.

Lorkhan · October 2015

RE: EP nightcapping

people of different parts of the world playing at their normal zone time. to them, you are the nightcapper

Rohaus · October 2015

The whole weekend DC tried to get Emp during primetime. The sheer numbers that AD is capable of putting out and does on a regularly nightly basis makes it extremely challenging.

Last night was fun until the massive numbers made performance detrimental. It is seriously not enjoyable to be standing there trying to spam abilities and see massive delays going on between the time you attack and the time it takes for the ability to actually trigger. I realize that everyone is experiencing this at the same time but in the end, typically the faction with the greater numbers winds up winning... which is logical... except for when a group attempts strategy and it fails because the numbers of the opposing faction make it impossible to do things quickly due to the lag. This is where DC's frustration with AD comes out.

The only frustration with EP, is when they bring in forces from other campaigns to likewise lag out an area of the server in order to get someone EMP. Or, night caps... the funny thing is this idea of teaming up against EP... when in reality it feels more like EP and AD are teaming up. Why is it when DC is making an Emp push or worse trying to dethrone AD Emp that EP will attempt cheap tactics up north instead of actually fighting against AD to dethrone?

Ultimately, it would be 100x more enjoyable if we were limited to only ONE group per faction to defend or attack a keep... but that isn't going to happen unless ZOS were to implement it.

It is only natural to hate the faction that is winning the most. However, that hatred becomes seething when you realize you have slim to no chance because of 3 to 1 numbers.

I hate both EP and AD pretty much equally... only right now my hatred is more towards the AD faction.