Personofsecrets wrote: »

gold is the same exact as champion point

Not at all. Gold doesn't increase your stats.
In fact gold is little to no more than a convenience item in the game : allows to to buy stuff from other players instead of farming it yourself. But that's it.

You don't need gold to upgrade your stuff at all, you can farm those mats too.

First cap better be at least 750.

Why do ZOS not simply only apply CP to the character's that earn them and not account wide?
No need for any new non vet servers this way.
It may even lower the high number of CP that some players have and go some way to even out the imbalance
Players could not argue or complain we would simply be getting what the character has earned

but gold is the same! It's the same thing!

Well, kinda sucks. Leveled 6 chars to VR16, one char to VR14 by now. Naturally I got at 500 CP this weekend, didn´t grind for the CP, sometimes for levels on my toons (all got Cadwells gold).

To say it´s unfair that people who play more get more is, what? communism? Even if I try to find the logic here it just doesn´t come to my mind how this could be unfair...

It was fun getting more regen and cost reduction and adapting the build to it (more spellpower than cost reduction enchantements, etc.). Where are people hurt if I got more CP than them?

Leaderboards? Who still runs one of the three trials as they got no scaling to VR16 and no loot of interest.

PvP? Excluding the extremes of 2k CP I can tell you something: you still will get your a** handed in pvp by these players even if you´re on even field regarding CP just as I still will get my a** handed by players in pvp who are better than me. As soon as the cap is installed prepare for a raise of "nerf X, nerf Y" threads....
Needless to say we´re talking about small fights (1v1,2v2,3v3) which are affected by this and the game is an AvAvA scenario and most people run in big groups zerging around.

These two aspects are the only ones people cry about. Why not just deactivate the CP benefits in pvp and leaderboard based encounters instead of taking away what keeps people playing?

Most people in my guilds who praise the CP cap aren´t even able to finish WPT and IP even after the nerfs. They are convinced people who can do that are these with 2k CP.

So, in my book fine. Cap CP. But if it happened don´t you dare to come back to the forums again and cry for nerfs in difficulty because you still are not able to do it. Everything gets nerfed because some people never come to the thought that they could improve something about their gameplay. They always seek to blame something so they don´t have to realise it´s themselves that holds em back. I´m curious how they will dumb down content again...

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Still amazes me that around 30 or so people on here get to dictate to the masses what gets nerfed, that resets are no longer part of the updates etc etc. I mean, say a future update renders our build ***, does that mean those 30 or so whiners pay for everyone's skill resets?

Unbelievable that the vocal minority on here get to dictate to ZoS and the rest of us what direction the game goes. Can't recall this happening in any other game I've played.

I completely agree. I only remember seeing a couple of forum posts about that "issue", and I thought it was a silly complaint at the time.

I'm horrified that ZOS actually listened to those fools!

Funkopotamus wrote: »

G0ku wrote: »

Well, kinda sucks. Leveled 6 chars to VR16, one char to VR14 by now. Naturally I got at 500 CP this weekend, didn´t grind for the CP, sometimes for levels on my toons (all got Cadwells gold).



So, in my book fine. Cap CP. But if it happened don´t you dare to come back to the forums again and cry for nerfs in difficulty because you still are not able to do it. Everything gets nerfed because some people never come to the thought that they could improve something about their gameplay. They always seek to blame something so they don´t have to realise it´s themselves that holds em back. I´m curious how they will dumb down content again...

Thing is at least now ZOS can make a decent attempt at "Balancing" the game both PvP,and PvE wise.. Right now they have been trying to balance this game for two groups of players. The "New" player and the CP farmers.

Without capping CP's ZOS were only making it impossible to program "Balance" as they were having to program TWO games at the same time basically.

And if you are saying that the only reason people were able to complete some things in this game was because they had farmed CP then that alone says the game needed this cap.. The devs should never have to program two games simply because some few 2%ers want to sit and farm CP's till their characters are OP enough to solo bosses and then expect the rest of the player base to do so.

That was not going to ever be a working system.

The new content doesn't require more CP to complete. It requires very capable players with excellent team work. Ive been in competitive groups completing content as its released prior to CP being the blame at what holds players back. It has always been the case where some people will complete the content and some wont. Two distinct groups ,regardless of CP caps, will always exist with content be it the two new vet dungeons or VDSA/SO prior to the nerfs. The real tough end game content will always require good cordinated players. CP has little to do with this. Example: SO HM being completed shortly after 1.6 by WKB with minimum CP and developed builds. How many groups are doing it now with several hundred? Very few. The notation that a cap will create a "fair" development of content is ludicrous .

I got lost at soloed Molag Bal...

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Still amazes me that around 30 or so people on here get to dictate to the masses what gets nerfed, that resets are no longer part of the updates etc etc. I mean, say a future update renders our build ***, does that mean those 30 or so whiners pay for everyone's skill resets?

Unbelievable that the vocal minority on here get to dictate to ZoS and the rest of us what direction the game goes. Can't recall this happening in any other game I've played.

I completely agree. I only remember seeing a couple of forum posts about that "issue", and I thought it was a silly complaint at the time.

I'm horrified that ZOS actually listened to those fools!

yet another 'fix' of something that wasn't broken.

sadly, it seems to be a default response from zos.