I chose no, however, they should just add a FREE 'respec' scroll to every player's inventory to give them that option. I can imagine how much of a pain this would be for a player who has several alts and over 100 skill points to have to try and remember where they put their points, morphs, etc... for every single character.

Hyperplexed wrote: »

Free scrolls every major reset is not a solution, otherwise ppl could save it whenever they felt it was convenient to them.

Why is it a problem?

I think what amazes me more is after a large update where skills, armor, weapons or what ever is updated or changed, why would you not expect your skill points to be reset so you can set up your build because you old build may no longer work for you.

I guess now there does need to be an option the first time you long in to reset, but I wonder how many people would just click through it and never read it

I guess we found a new way to do away with free respects after major changes, /facepalm

@BigMac_Smiley @MissBizz

Ok, I understand. I'm of the type to generally only have 1 character if I can get away with it, but that won't really be the case for ESO. I've been so used to having a single character due to past my MMO experience, I did not properly take into account people that have multiple characters.

With this said, a better way could have been to nullify the cost of shrines for around 2 weeks after a major patch. Or create an item that will reset a characters skill points on use and mail these to each character after the patch. I believe you already mentioned such methods, as have others.

However, if they create an item that will reset your skill points on use, I can see major problems with them all being mailed at the same time? Maybe I don't understand the mailing system they have, but it seems like it'd get extremely congested due to this. So as an alternative method, they could have the reset item purchasable in the crown store for free, after major patch. But doesn't the crown store use the same mailing system? I've never bought anything before lol.

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Hyperplexed wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Why is it a problem?

Because it defeats the reset purpose... the reset is needed, because skills change, get nerfed, get buffed, etc, in general, will affect gameplay. Doesn't make any sense that you would want to reset it after 1 month for free...

If you say a free scroll is a solution, you're already aknowledging that no reset is neccessary after major update.

All I'm acknowledging is that some people don't want to reset their skills - and there are so many of them and they complained so loudly that from now on, nobody will be able to reset. So fine, I'm not going to force anyone to reset. But an optional reset, like the scrolls you mentioned, might work. I don't mind if people keep them to reset for free at a later date. It harms nobody.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Honestly, it's no big deal to just go to the shrine and reset morphs. It's cheap and a lot less hassle than getting a full blown skill reset on a major patch.

I'm surprised so many people want the forced reset, but perhaps this is just blind-wanting because it's "free"? If they did decide to keep the reset after major patches, over time I can guarantee most of you that want this will get tired of it and probably bring this up again.

Also, you talk about "hard earned gold" like it's actually hard earned and that using a shrine is overly expensive, the option to reset morphs is your friend. The majority of my gold has came from running around doing quests and w/e else in a zone before I leave. I've never once felt short on gold, and I've been upgrading inventory and bank space when I need it.

Not everyone farms and grinds some of us just play I have Trading Guilds solely to buy gear and mats for gear. The most money I "earn" is from selling the drops needed to open rooms in the IC 15k per respect for me plus 3k to the Champion System cause that's fine tuned to the powers on my bar.

A free respec option needs to be given I'm not grinding mobs for 18k just cause ZoS added an play style option that was not there before is now playable.

Sorry, my second post explained my perspective. I'll need to make an edit in the original I guess.

Tholian1 wrote: »

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

I wonder where they get there feedback from. Sometime I wonder if a dev just has his 13 year old kid play for a couple hours then asks him what he should change.

I'm guessing they either filed tickets or complained on social media. I saw very few mention it here on the forums.

I'd guess it's the ticket thing. A few first time posters came here saying 'IC bug all my skills were reset'.

Maybe zos is assuming because they reported it as a bug they would be against it even if they had all the information about skill changes.

A banner on the loading screen saying all your skillpoints have been reset probly would have reduced the outcry.

Zos fails at comnunication.

This is a load, Iam a PS4 player.

If you make major changes to skill lines in a patch/DLC/update skill points should be reset.

I should not have to pay to get t a new skill that was changed or get rid of something that was changed that I no longer want.

You could email players an itme that resets skill points this blanket we are going to do it now we are not going to do it all s irritating.

He didn't even say if they are still resetting PC players butnot console players which will upset me even more.

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Seriously? How is a free respec a bad thing? Once again look at the vote totals.. Scratching my head on this

My problem was I was into the vet levels. At first I was happy to get some points out of skills I wasn't using, but then I got into "wait... Did I have that passive or not... Uh... Hmm." We don't all have eidetic memory.

But as others have said, it's not the false dichotomy the poll tries to force us into (no vote from me). The idea above of a free respec scroll sounds like the perfect solution.

I think it's important to offer a free respec automatically, not least for those characters that aren't yet at a level where they can access the main cities with respec facilities (assuming the player even knows about them).

It's also often important for a respec to be imposed in order to avoid a conflict in the coding between old and new versions of the skills. Where that isn't the case, however, it would be desirable in my view for any such respec to be covered by a token in the mail which can be used at the player's discretion. That's the way some other games operate respecs and it enables players either to stick with their existing build or choose when to respec. The other way some games operate them is for the game to automatically respec as close as possible to your previous build while giving you the option to respec for yourself if you wish to do so. Both methods work well and are better than logging in to discover you have no skills set and have to respec the whole lot there and then - especially irritating for those of us with a lot of alts !

Are the console players so dense as to not expect to respend their skill points after a major update?
Or are the majority so new to MMOs they are just ignorant/newb?

Although!
I do understand the minority "don't refund my skillpoints."
Not everyone is thrilled about respending their points or wanting to see how their skill changes effect battle.
The Free Respec Scroll sounds like a good idea and I gladly #approve it.
If you like the changes to your skills, stash it (or it could expire after so many hours/days after logging on or retrieved from mail).

I'd rather just see a scroll of skill respec to just be either inserted into their inventory, preferrably in the quest item section of the inventory, so that it doesn't take up a slot of my inventory, or mailed to each character as soon as they log in.

Free Respec was brilliant. Otherwise 12k (over 250 points at VR 16)to reset all my skills and another 3k to reset attributes.( plus 3k for CP reset)

I have seen some feedback from a console player saying that having to put back 40 or so skill points was a chore. Others just didn't realise the points were still there and they just had to re-spend them. So I would question how much of the outrage, was just because people didn't know it would happen.

I hope that ZOS will also listen to the feedback posted here, since in this poll sample, the majority still want our respecs ( and didn't ask for the change). I believe our feedback should count as much as everyone else's.

However, ZOS have had a knee jerk reaction and probably won't go back on it. Therefore, perhaps they could ( as suggested by others in this thread) offer an OPTIONAL free respec. I would totally support this, since no one has the choice taken away from them. All ZOS have done now, is do "all or nothing" again which will divide the playerbase, leaving some people inevitably unhappy.

Optional free respec FTW!

If it's really that big of a deal just a respec scroll in the mail , no obligation to use it