Patch Notes disappointment.

Lady_Rosabella · September 2015

Agreed, patch is a joke. Loading screens are still ridiculous, I have enough time to go shave my legs in between loading screens. And don't even get me started with the lag spikes. Oh yea and the random crashes back to sign in screen. Still can't jump over a small stone or tree branch while in sneak (that change was never mentioned in the new 1.7 update/patch so why is it in there), which makes it pretty hard to stay in sneak due to the fact you have to come out to jump then sneak again. My guild roster & friends list still won't show other characters locations after initially opening it preventing me from being able to "travel to player".

And before anyone says anything, I've turned off all addons, and it's not my rig or internet connection, did not have these problems before the update/patch.

Hubby and I have been subscribers since July 4, 2014 and it's seriously getting to be not worth $30 a month to pay for an unplayable game.

Troneon · September 2015

DO NOT PATCH EU ZOS PLEASE DO NOT PATCH EU!!!!!

Seravi · September 2015

I have the lag spikes, forever loading screens, falling out of the sky to my death, etc and I don't use addons, never have. The last thing I received from CS on my ticket was they were sending it to the devs for further inspection. My issues started after update 7.

Carde · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

@gard too :
If you remove them ONLY for people who don't have the DLC you go back to what @Freeman already pointed out : easier access to gold keys for people who don't have the DLC => absolutely unfair. And making the pledges different depending on "player status" negates the very purpose of pledges : people can group up for a common purpose more easily.

No, really, people, stop being picky. You don't have the DLC, you don't get access to gold keys the days one of the two IC dungeons comes out. End of story. Really. Looks like you want to spoil our pleasure to play the DLC just because YOU did not like it.

When Firor compares what Elder Scrolls will offer its premium players to free offerings, he brings up issues that F2P titles once had in abundance, yet are not as prevelant now. "Elder Scrolls is about being in a giant world, where you’re exploring, and you go to a dungeon, and you don’t get a paygate in front of you saying you don’t have this dungeon," Firor says. "Which means, to us, you need to monetise it outside of the game." While paygates are increasingly less common, some barriers still persist. Certainly, the penny-pinching tactics found in The Old Republic are not desirable.

And there's something to be said about not being confronted with extra costs while in the game itself. "You go outside the game, you pay your month, you go in the game, and when you’re in the game, you’re in the game," Firor clarifies. "There’s no real world stuff reaching in to grab you." Few things break immersion quicker than a game telling you that you can spend cash to unlock chests or get special gear.

Tandor · September 2015

I haven't got the patch yet, being in the UK, so can't comment on the stability of it. However, I haven't had any loading screen or other performance issues prior to it.

I am, however, disappointed that the patch notes make no mention of disabling the constant health/magicka/stamina bars being visible outside of combat when buffed until such time as they can be made optional.

Robbmrp · September 2015

Dracane wrote: »

These patchnotes are pretty poor. No needed fixes as it seems.
No shieldbreaker fix, loading screens, abilities not reacting when you push the key.

This seems to be worse in normal PVE areas. Using Rapids in Reapers you have to hit the button 3-5 times to get it to trigger. There's all kinds of game delay there as well. Make a comment in zone, 1-2 seconds later it shows up.

FireCowCommando · September 2015

Its like the FPS patch all over again! Hopefully it doesnt take as many weeks to get a fix as it did for that.

Jimboo84 · September 2015

timidobserver wrote: »

The load times are not fixed? I thought I read a dev post about them having a fix for that

I'm one who initiated that post. Fix was there, but be applicable in a few weeks, they didn't mention this weeks patch.

gard · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Giraffon wrote: »

Hold on there. DLC is optional add-on content. It's supposed to add to what you have...not take away. This effectively takes away something that I've already paid for. Common or not, this practice is unethical.

Hold on there.

The only option to make everyone even would be to remove the 2 new dungeons from the pledges for everybody. BUT then daily pledges make it far easier for people to find groups to do those dungeons. Removing 2 of them from the pledges rotation would effectively take away something from people who have bought the DLC and paid for it.

So please people who chose not to buy it, stop being picky.

They need to remove the two new dungeons from the daily pledges or open them up to everyone. Of those two options, I think the IC dungeons should only be available to people that have purchased the DLC. They should not be in the rotation of pledges for the people that did not purchase the DLC.

Perhaps either one of the options above "takes something away from people who have bought the DLC", but only something that shouldn't have been there to begin with.

@gard too :
If you remove them ONLY for people who don't have the DLC you go back to what @Freeman already pointed out : easier access to gold keys for people who don't have the DLC => absolutely unfair. And making the pledges different depending on "player status" negates the very purpose of pledges : people can group up for a common purpose more easily.

No, really, people, stop being picky. You don't have the DLC, you don't get access to gold keys the days one of the two IC dungeons comes out. End of story. Really. Looks like you want to spoil our pleasure to play the DLC just because YOU did not like it.

But they won't have access to the loot from the expansion, right? They can run the content and get the key, but they shouldn't get the same loot.

Arreyanne · September 2015

timidobserver wrote: »

The load times are not fixed? I thought I read a dev post about them having a fix for that

They made a post last week said they had a fix for that and it would be in today's patch. Guess they told a fib

BugCollector · September 2015

No templar buffs...

amatic · September 2015

Never heard of game forcing players to buy dlc..you never played destiny then?

Lady_Rosabella · September 2015

Jimboo84 wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

The load times are not fixed? I thought I read a dev post about them having a fix for that

I'm one who initiated that post. Fix was there, but be applicable in a few weeks, they didn't mention this weeks patch.

I read your post and according to @ZOS_BrianWheeler on September 3rd and I quote "This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch." next weeks patch refers to the patch today, right?

Jimboo84 · September 2015

Lady_Guinevere wrote: »

Jimboo84 wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

The load times are not fixed? I thought I read a dev post about them having a fix for that

I'm one who initiated that post. Fix was there, but be applicable in a few weeks, they didn't mention this weeks patch.

I read your post and according to @ZOS_BrianWheeler on September 3rd and I quote "This is an issue we're tracking and have some fixes in the works for next weeks patch." next weeks patch refers to the patch today, right?

I've misunderstood the weeks part. Indeed it should've been fixed already. I don't read it in the notes. Patch should be rolled out here on desktop version within a couple of hours.

Austacker · September 2015

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Destiny.

Weekly content tied to DLC content. Much uproar over this was had.

cyclonus11 · September 2015

Still can't jump worth &^@% while in stealth.

Carde · September 2015

My magicka regen is completely busted right now. I'm tapped no matter how slow I go or even using drinks. Really getting tired of this game being so broken all the time, I thought a year away would give it time to hash everything out, but I think I was wrong.

edit: felt I should point out this is only happening since today's patch, it was fine the rest of the week after IC patch and before it, but now today I might as well just not be playing at all.

Sidecar · September 2015

everybook i read still says lorebook discovered,how hard is that to fix?Boneheads..

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

Wing wrote: »

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Destiny, its weekly nightfall and heroic quests would not only add the new DLC content to the rotation, but increase the light level required to attempt / stay competitive in ALL the weekly quests to the newly increased DLC light level that was only attainable through. . .DLC gear.

its a sad day when games mimic that greedy money obsessed lack of content lack of story RNG based gameplay toxic community that preys on weakness and flaws in the human brain piece of garbage.

but it made $$$$$$$$$$ so screw it who cares right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an important point. Destiny is seen as a failure and a disappointment from a gamer's perspective. From a perspective of an evil marketer or unscrupulous game developer, it was a success.

Good game?

Doesn't matter made $$$

Mighty_oakk · September 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Destiny, its weekly nightfall and heroic quests would not only add the new DLC content to the rotation, but increase the light level required to attempt / stay competitive in ALL the weekly quests to the newly increased DLC light level that was only attainable through. . .DLC gear.

its a sad day when games mimic that greedy money obsessed lack of content lack of story RNG based gameplay toxic community that preys on weakness and flaws in the human brain piece of garbage.

but it made $$$$$$$$$$ so screw it who cares right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an important point. Destiny is seen as a failure and a disappointment from a gamer's perspective. From a perspective of an evil marketer or unscrupulous game developer, it was a success.

Good game?

Doesn't matter made $$$

I actually like Destiny and really like Bungie. Destiny still has something like 4million unique log ins a day and doesnt do any micro transaction bs.

Iluvrien · September 2015

Wait.... they really didn't fix the loading screen times. Really?!

Excuse me, @ZOS_GinaBruno & @ZOS_JessicaFolsom could we possibly have an explanation as to why this wasn't included? It is an issue that is, quite literally, causing people to stop playing the game until it is resolved.

I am one of these people. My playing hours have been taking a beating since the patch came out and the loading screen issues began. I was attempting to set aside my annoyance (primarily by sticking to one zone... but even then they trigger on instances and delves) until today's patch rolled out to the EU server.

The fix is not present, according to the reports we are getting from the NA servers. On EU I have been experiencing 1-7 minute delays on entering instances as small as the Thrizzini arenas or the Fardir's Folly delve in Reaper's March. These were not present before IC. They persist whether I have add-ons on or off.

What is ZOS doing to resolve this issue? When will we get a fix? Is this something you have not resolved, or that you cannot resolve?

Jspringy · September 2015

I'm sorry, but those who "need" add-ons to play are just plain silly. It's crazy how many people just can't seem to play a game as it is delivered.

That being said, anyone who doesn't use addons having fps or loading screen(time) troubles?

JDar · September 2015

Let's all remember not to shoot the messenger. @ZOS_GinaBruno always goes hard on patch days.

Iluvrien · September 2015

JDar wrote: »

Let's all remember not to shoot the messenger. @ZOS_GinaBruno always goes hard on patch days.

Who's shooting the messenger?

Quite simply what people seem to want to know (myself included) is:
1) Why wasn't it included in this patch (and if it wasn't ready, why wasn't it enough of a priority that it was fixed in time)
2) Is this fixable at all?
3) If it is fixable, then what kind of time span are we looking at before this gets resolved?

Expecting people to carry on playing without this information makes some of us concerned that this is a long term issue and that ZOS just doesn't want to start losing the players who would leave if this was the case. Instead it seems like they might just want to wait until people actually lose both hope and patience and quit due to the lack of resolution and information.

In short, it smells like marketing... not community management.

[EDIT: Clarity]

UltimaJoe777 · September 2015

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

no dragons

As much as a Dragon from TESV: Skyrim would be interesting to face there are 2 things to keep in mind here:

1. This isn't the fourth era of Nirn, it's the second. No dragons in 2E, sorry.
2. The Daedric Titans are close enough to dragons.

Harasdar · September 2015

WarlordGrievous wrote: »

Man these loading screens give me enough time to get my house work done D.

Haha...me too...my appartment was never clean like that beforer

VincentBlanquin · September 2015

olsborg wrote: »

Anyone else having delay to combat/animations after using wrecking blow/ snipe?

yes

Rev Rielle · September 2015

They've done what they can with the time they had, and they'll continue to do more as time goes on.
Did you honestly expect all the problems to be addressed in one week?

Gnorok · September 2015

Rev Rielle wrote: »

Did you honestly expect all the problems to be addressed in one week?

All the problems? No.

The major problems like the loading screen issue? Yes.

Or at least some information about what is going on.

P3ZZL3 · September 2015

Anything that stops a player playing your game, or one that instantly boots the player back to a loading screen, for no apparent reason, especially when they are in a Dungeon or fighting a large boss, then yes, yes I would expect them to fix it.

Apparent thought process: "Hmmm, do we worry about changing the text on some dialogue, do we turn on the lamps again in a dungeon or do we fix the fact people can't play our game. Meh, let's go with the dialogue and flames, it's easier".

*shrugs*