Patch Notes disappointment.

Treasure_Goblin

• No fix for loading times
• When completing writs, the quest progress will not show up in the crafting menu except for (I THINK) woodworking.
• In some areas of the world, when in a subzone, (The Rift my biggest offender), opening up the map will show you show up on some random part of the zone map (rather than subsection), with the player indicator moving across the map at 200 mph, the way to fix this is to zoom out, bringing you to the same screen for the zone map.
• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.
• MASSIVE FPS drops, especially when first traveling to Cyrodiil, 2-6 FPS, with ping shooting up to 999+, the only way I found to fix this is to reload ui.
• Ping seems to randomly rise over time, especially in Imperial City and Cyrodiil, jumping to 200, then 400, then anywhere above. The only fix for this I found is to relog, either quit or go to character select.
• no dragons

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Xeven

Lol. What did you expect?

timidobserver

The load times are not fixed? I thought I read a dev post about them having a fix for that

Scyantific

Agreed. No fixes for the borked instancing/scaling/party warp issues.

The worst offender is the FPS stuttering and memory leak issues and we didn't even get a fix for those (no, removing addons is NOT a fix).

The worst part is that it took them a week to figure out the UI scaling issue while Mer released an addon fix by the end of the week. Guess the Bethesda tradition is alive and well (have the modders fix the game).

AngryNord

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

[*] no dragons

Thank goodness!!!

LoreRiley

wrote:

[*] Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.

Destiny

gw2only1b14_ESO

You ever been to Temple District? theres a dragon...

Nifty2g

most of those points are things that dont make it into patch notes though

ZheinLevin

On the better side, teleporting to group members will be fixed. My lazy ass is quite happy.

Dracane

These patchnotes are pretty poor. No needed fixes as it seems.
No shieldbreaker fix, loading screens, abilities not reacting when you push the key.

Ourorboros

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

• No fix for loading times
• When completing writs, the quest progress will not show up in the crafting menu except for (I THINK) woodworking.
• In some areas of the world, when in a subzone, (The Rift my biggest offender), opening up the map will show you show up on some random part of the zone map (rather than subsection), with the player indicator moving across the map at 200 mph, the way to fix this is to zoom out, bringing you to the same screen for the zone map.
• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.
• MASSIVE FPS drops, especially when first traveling to Cyrodiil, 2-6 FPS, with ping shooting up to 999+, the only way I found to fix this is to reload ui.
• Ping seems to randomly rise over time, especially in Imperial City and Cyrodiil, jumping to 200, then 400, then anywhere above. The only fix for this I found is to relog, either quit or go to character select.
• no dragons

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Collectible hunters (monster trophies) are still SOL.

MisterJimothy

Scyantific wrote: »

Agreed. No fixes for the borked instancing/scaling/party warp issues.

The worst offender is the FPS stuttering and memory leak issues and we didn't even get a fix for those (no, removing addons is NOT a fix).

Unfortunately, it is a fix. ZOS doesn't support any add-ons and all their testing is based solely on a vanilla game. If an add-on is causing issues, that's not their problem nor is it their responsibility to fix it.

Thymos

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.
  

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Take it as a day off then, or two...

eliisra

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Well...owners of DLC cant really complete the gold key for VR WGT or ICP either. It's not really pug- or average player friendly. I only know like one or two guilds that can do it.

While I'm all for difficult PvE content, maybe not assign it as the daily quest. Kinda silly when only 0.05% of the player population can complete the pledge

Other than that, I do agree, many things that needed fixing desperately. This patch is disappointing. However, I still think IC is awesome, just need a few tweaks.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO

Disappointed about the load screen issue.

Also disappointed about no word about the unblockable spells npcs cast that used to be blockable.

ontheleftcoast

timidobserver wrote: »

The load times are not fixed? I thought I read a dev post about them having a fix for that

Having a fix is way different from releasing one. My guess is they found the problem, made a change, and it broke 10X's as many things as it fixed. We're going to have ESO:LSU for a while. (Elder Scrolls Online: Loading Screens Unlimited)

olsborg

Anyone else having delay to combat/animations after using wrecking blow/ snipe?

Wing

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

Destiny, its weekly nightfall and heroic quests would not only add the new DLC content to the rotation, but increase the light level required to attempt / stay competitive in ALL the weekly quests to the newly increased DLC light level that was only attainable through. . .DLC gear.

its a sad day when games mimic that greedy money obsessed lack of content lack of story RNG based gameplay toxic community that preys on weakness and flaws in the human brain piece of garbage.

but it made $$$$$$$$$$ so screw it who cares right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paulhewhewria

Man these loading screens give me enough time to get my house work done D.

Corellon Thromorin

You can now use the group finder...

anitajoneb17_ESO

MisterJimothy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

Agreed. No fixes for the borked instancing/scaling/party warp issues.

The worst offender is the FPS stuttering and memory leak issues and we didn't even get a fix for those (no, removing addons is NOT a fix).

Unfortunately, it is a fix. ZOS doesn't support any add-ons and all their testing is based solely on a vanilla game. If an add-on is causing issues, that's not their problem nor is it their responsibility to fix it.

"Legally" and "formally" speaking, you're right.
Concretely speaking, you're wrong. At this stage, if given a choice between "play without addons" and "stop playing" I choose "stop playing" no matter how much I like the game, because in my opinion, the game is not playable at all without addons.

I bet I'm not the only one.

So even though formally ZOS doesn't have to work on add-on compatibility, they should better do it imho.

ontheleftcoast

CONFIRMED: Loading Screens still take !@#(*& forever.

I just downloaded the patch and hopped on my first toon and... a minute+ of loading screen. They probably didn't fix the FPS or other issues they didn't mention in the patch. Disappointment indeed.

Giraffon

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

• No fix for loading times
• When completing writs, the quest progress will not show up in the crafting menu except for (I THINK) woodworking.
• In some areas of the world, when in a subzone, (The Rift my biggest offender), opening up the map will show you show up on some random part of the zone map (rather than subsection), with the player indicator moving across the map at 200 mph, the way to fix this is to zoom out, bringing you to the same screen for the zone map.
• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.
• MASSIVE FPS drops, especially when first traveling to Cyrodiil, 2-6 FPS, with ping shooting up to 999+, the only way I found to fix this is to reload ui.
• Ping seems to randomly rise over time, especially in Imperial City and Cyrodiil, jumping to 200, then 400, then anywhere above. The only fix for this I found is to relog, either quit or go to character select.
• no dragons

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

All of this!! I totally agree. I'm very annoyed about the pledge issue. They seemingly took something away from people that did not buy the DLC. This is not cool. I challenged them on this matter in a support ticket and they referred me to the forums! Check this out:

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I haven't purchased IC yet. Imperial City Prison is vet pledge today. I can't go? It le

Response By Email (Ricky) (09/05/2015 04:37 PM)
Greetings,

Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited team. In light of the excitement and great demand for ESOTU, we are currently experiencing high contact volume. We encourage you to search our support site at https://help.elderscrollsonline.com for any in-game topics or issues you may have questions about. There are lots of helpful FAQs and links to our social pages.

Most in-game UI issues (including NPC, quest problems and missing crowns/entitlements) can be resolved by logging out for five minutes then back in which will load you into a new game instance.

Additionally, other great resources for in-game mechanics can be found via our forums: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en

There are also many wonderful community wikis:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/

Please note, we have also recently released a new patch for PC/Mac including our first DLC game pack: Imperial City! Review the patch notes for all of the recent changes here: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/category/patch-notes
Best Regards,
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Team
Question Reference # XXXXXXXXXXX (removed by me)
• Date Created: 09/05/2015 04:23 PM
• Date Last Updated: 09/05/2015 04:37 PM
• Status: Solved
========================================================
I LOVE the last line...

I don't even like gold pledges, but it ticks me off that they took away the option for me to do them on a daily basis. Buy the DLC or else!! What's next?

Alucardo

The loading screens is a major issue. When a game has as many loading screens as this one does, having their time reduced is an important thing. It's like playing Sonic 06 again.

ontheleftcoast

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

MisterJimothy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

Agreed. No fixes for the borked instancing/scaling/party warp issues.

The worst offender is the FPS stuttering and memory leak issues and we didn't even get a fix for those (no, removing addons is NOT a fix).

Unfortunately, it is a fix. ZOS doesn't support any add-ons and all their testing is based solely on a vanilla game. If an add-on is causing issues, that's not their problem nor is it their responsibility to fix it.

"Legally" and "formally" speaking, you're right.
Concretely speaking, you're wrong. At this stage, if given a choice between "play without addons" and "stop playing" I choose "stop playing" no matter how much I like the game, because in my opinion, the game is not playable at all without addons.

I bet I'm not the only one.

So even though formally ZOS doesn't have to work on add-on compatibility, they should better do it imho.

You're not the only one. Having to disable minimap is a game breaker for me. I get turned around all too often, especially in places like the sewers. And getting separated from your group means death (and loss of your TVS). I need my minimap. I'm probably just going to login to run writs and feed my mounts. Playing isn't really an option.

Treasure_Goblin

Giraffon wrote: »

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

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I find it hilarious that they say "real life humans are responding to your requests", yeah, with a friggen ctrl+v, with no chance of them reading what you wrote.

Hiero_Glyph

Would it really have been too complicated for ZoS to offer an IC-pledge and non-IC pledge options when accepting them (same quest giver, just two options available for non-vet and vet)? They'd still be random but the two new dungeons would be in/excluded depending on your choice. Imagine how much worse it will become after Orsinuium, Dark Brotherhood, Thieves Guilds, etc.

OGLezard

All your worries will be fixed in the NEXT major content release, same thing they do every time. They dont care about fixing it now, they need to string you along until the next content update, then fix the broken crap from that update during the next next content update

P3ZZL3

Please tell me you responded to it?

I would also ask that the issue be elevated immediately to Hap Campbell, who also heads up the Customer Service Delivery teams, Global.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is this true, that even though they are included in to the rotation of Undaunted, they are not accessible to non DLC Owners? That's a pretty unforgiving oversight on @ZoS's side isn't it?

MisterJimothy

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

MisterJimothy wrote: »

Scyantific wrote: »

Agreed. No fixes for the borked instancing/scaling/party warp issues.

The worst offender is the FPS stuttering and memory leak issues and we didn't even get a fix for those (no, removing addons is NOT a fix).

Unfortunately, it is a fix. ZOS doesn't support any add-ons and all their testing is based solely on a vanilla game. If an add-on is causing issues, that's not their problem nor is it their responsibility to fix it.

"Legally" and "formally" speaking, you're right.
Concretely speaking, you're wrong. At this stage, if given a choice between "play without addons" and "stop playing" I choose "stop playing" no matter how much I like the game, because in my opinion, the game is not playable at all without addons.

I bet I'm not the only one.

So even though formally ZOS doesn't have to work on add-on compatibility, they should better do it imho.

I don't disagree with your opinion. Just simply stating the reality. The problem with trying to work with add-on compatibility is the following

1. Add-ons add more load to your client. Sure, it's just visually showing more of what's already happening in the background, but it's not a free resource cost. This is more an issue because of how CPU-bound this game already is.
2. Hypothetical: ZOS starts working with add-on devs to officially support the more popular ones. How do you decide which ones to support? Who gets to decide what add-ons are more important? Where is the cutoff? "We'll support FTC, Srendarr, and Wykkyds and work with the devs!" "But what about my mini-map? Or Master Merchant?! FU ZOS! I QUIT" On a side note, who are you going to get to work with add-on devs? Do you hire someone else?

There just isn't a simple way to deal with it really.

All that to say, when the PTS released, I simply decided to disable add-ons just to not have to deal with any compatibility issues. Turns out, once you learn to play with addons and get an idea of what's you're doing, it's surprising how easy it was to play without them. The visual and sound cues especially are infinitely better than they were. Now I know that's not an excuse, but just thought it was worth mentioning.

Mighty_oakk

Giraffon wrote: »

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

• No fix for loading times
• When completing writs, the quest progress will not show up in the crafting menu except for (I THINK) woodworking.
• In some areas of the world, when in a subzone, (The Rift my biggest offender), opening up the map will show you show up on some random part of the zone map (rather than subsection), with the player indicator moving across the map at 200 mph, the way to fix this is to zoom out, bringing you to the same screen for the zone map.
• Non DLC owners cannot complete pledges half the time because they're getting the objective to complete WGT and ICP. I refuse to think this is intended, as I've never heard of a game forcing players to purchase a DLC.
• MASSIVE FPS drops, especially when first traveling to Cyrodiil, 2-6 FPS, with ping shooting up to 999+, the only way I found to fix this is to reload ui.
• Ping seems to randomly rise over time, especially in Imperial City and Cyrodiil, jumping to 200, then 400, then anywhere above. The only fix for this I found is to relog, either quit or go to character select.
• no dragons

Yeah.... This is disappointing.

All of this!! I totally agree. I'm very annoyed about the pledge issue. They seemingly took something away from people that did not buy the DLC. This is not cool. I challenged them on this matter in a support ticket and they referred me to the forums! Check this out:

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Helping you is our passion!

We will assume your issue has been resolved if we do not hear from you within 96 hours (4 days).

If your issue has not been resolved, you can respond directly to this email. We look forward to working with you again should you need us!
Subject
I haven't purchased IC yet. Imperial City Prison is vet pledge today. I can't go? It le

Response By Email (Ricky) (09/05/2015 04:37 PM)
Greetings,

Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited team. In light of the excitement and great demand for ESOTU, we are currently experiencing high contact volume. We encourage you to search our support site at https://help.elderscrollsonline.com for any in-game topics or issues you may have questions about. There are lots of helpful FAQs and links to our social pages.

Most in-game UI issues (including NPC, quest problems and missing crowns/entitlements) can be resolved by logging out for five minutes then back in which will load you into a new game instance.

Additionally, other great resources for in-game mechanics can be found via our forums: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en

There are also many wonderful community wikis:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/

Please note, we have also recently released a new patch for PC/Mac including our first DLC game pack: Imperial City! Review the patch notes for all of the recent changes here: http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/category/patch-notes
Best Regards,
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Team
Question Reference # XXXXXXXXXXX (removed by me)
• Date Created: 09/05/2015 04:23 PM
• Date Last Updated: 09/05/2015 04:37 PM
• Status: Solved
========================================================
I LOVE the last line...

I don't even like gold pledges, but it ticks me off that they took away the option for me to do them on a daily basis. Buy the DLC or else!! What's next?

Way to solve another one CS. The funny thing is if you reply to a CS ticket saying it didn't work you just get the same email over and over again.

Didn't they just lay off half their CS? B2p is awesome sometimes.