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Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible - Do you like it?

  • SilentRaven1972
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    No
    It really should be optional. Bad enough they made the enemy health bars narrower and harder to see (the ones above their heads), but now I have giant stat bars taking up my visual space. DO NOT WANT!
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  • J2JMC
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    No
    This is a big deal to me. On console we get screwed as turning it off still pops up when buffed which is stupid. Off is off

    Now it's always on which is stupid

    Oh the irony of you asking for options.

    Anyway, this does need to be optional. This particular problem does not bother me. That being said, I need to ensure most, if not all, UI configurations are optional so I can have my buff timers and damage numbers on console without interrupting the play of those who do not like them. ZOS listen to the people. We want information, communication and option...ation.

    Edit: Changed OP to more accurately reflect my intentions.
    Edited by J2JMC on September 1, 2015 5:26PM
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  • MissBizz
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    This is a big deal to me. On console we get screwed as turning it off still pops up when buffed which is stupid. Off is off

    Now it's always on which is stupid

    Oh the irony of you asking for options.

    Anyway, this does need to be removed. This particualar problem does not bother me. That being said, I need to ensure most, if not all, UI configurations are optional so I can have my buff timers and damage numbers on console without interrupting the play of those who do not like them. ZOS listen to the people. We want information, communication and option...ation.

    Thanks @J2JMC I am actually a supporter of a more robust UI so long as those are options, and not forced upon anyone. I maybe should have been a bit clearer, but I'm not asking for the change to be reversed at all, as this thread has pointed out - many people like it, I would just like to have the option of when this happens. Seems silly to now have an option to turn your health bars off that doesn't actually work ;) I'll be quite happy when ZOS adds things such as an on screen buff tracker, means one more add-on can go, and I can just switch it on when I head to dungeons ;)
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  • Morimizo
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    No
    I really don't like this at all; there was no need to have them permanently clutter up the immersive HUD; food/drink effects always were clearly signaled when they ended, by the bars appearing, shrinking, then going away.

    Not only that, if for some reason I didn't notice the visual, I could just tell from the difference in combat (one extra hit to eradicate a standard mob, i.e.).

    PLEASE give us the option to disable this.
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.
    Gina Bruno
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  • nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO
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    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Why on earth did you change it?? It worked so well and perfectly before the patch. This is a classic if it works don't touch it!
  • Hope499
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    No
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Thank you :)

    Nice to see a fast reply in this. please change ASAP.
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  • Anhedonie
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    No
    [snip] that's awful. Even worse than stambuilds/block nerf.

    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 26, 2024 5:53PM
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  • milesrodneymcneely2_ESO
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    No
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.
    Gina, thanks for listening to us. You guys are doing a great job, and when it comes to being available and listening you have been GOLDEN.

    Thank you!

    o:)
  • nine9six
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    I don't care
    I use an addon to keep my bars visible at all times, and centered.
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  • Talemire
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    I don't care
    I use drink so I don't see it.
  • gard
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    [EDIT] Please also voice your opinion via /feedback in game. [/EDIT]

    I read the patch notes.. twice. Yet I didn't seem to catch this.

    I was online today when a guildmate mentioned their stamina and health bar never going away.. I also noticed my magicka and health never going away. I disabled all addons, removed the folder, all that jazz. Just to be told that this was an INTENDED change. (I must have missed it) Now, if you have an active effect (such as food buff) the stat (mag,stam or health) that it effects - the bar will NEVER go away. To the point of turning all healthbars in the game "OFF" it still will not go away.

    It was mentioned upcoming changes to the UI will be completely optional. I would have REALLY enjoyed this to be optional. I never noticed in the PTS as I was in IC and always seemed to be in battle - not peacefully questing. As someone who plays certain characters with minimal UI (no quest tracker, no quest markers on some) I would really prefer that this be an option.

    Do you like the new change?
    Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible while under an active effect, such as food buffs.

    It would probably be possible to disable them with an addon. Though that won't help console players much.

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  • capnbinky
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    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Thanks for quickly responding to this. Quality of play issue, for certain.
  • MissBizz
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    No
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Thank you very much Gina! It's greatly appreciated you will have some folks look into this, and will be even more appreciated if they find a way to make it an option! :)
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  • Tandor
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    No
    gard wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    [EDIT] Please also voice your opinion via /feedback in game. [/EDIT]

    I read the patch notes.. twice. Yet I didn't seem to catch this.

    I was online today when a guildmate mentioned their stamina and health bar never going away.. I also noticed my magicka and health never going away. I disabled all addons, removed the folder, all that jazz. Just to be told that this was an INTENDED change. (I must have missed it) Now, if you have an active effect (such as food buff) the stat (mag,stam or health) that it effects - the bar will NEVER go away. To the point of turning all healthbars in the game "OFF" it still will not go away.

    It was mentioned upcoming changes to the UI will be completely optional. I would have REALLY enjoyed this to be optional. I never noticed in the PTS as I was in IC and always seemed to be in battle - not peacefully questing. As someone who plays certain characters with minimal UI (no quest tracker, no quest markers on some) I would really prefer that this be an option.

    Do you like the new change?
    Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible while under an active effect, such as food buffs.

    It would probably be possible to disable them with an addon. Though that won't help console players much.

    Nor anyone else who has no wish to use any addons.
  • jk.turner_ESO
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Yes, thank you for that. I also do not like that particular change to my UI. I've always kept track of my buffs and really find this to be an eyesore ;)
  • Merlight
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    No
    Don't like it.
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  • Rayste
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    Yes
    MissBizz wrote: »
    [EDIT] Please also voice your opinion via /feedback in game. [/EDIT]

    I read the patch notes.. twice. Yet I didn't seem to catch this.

    I was online today when a guildmate mentioned their stamina and health bar never going away.. I also noticed my magicka and health never going away. I disabled all addons, removed the folder, all that jazz. Just to be told that this was an INTENDED change. (I must have missed it) Now, if you have an active effect (such as food buff) the stat (mag,stam or health) that it effects - the bar will NEVER go away. To the point of turning all healthbars in the game "OFF" it still will not go away.

    It was mentioned upcoming changes to the UI will be completely optional. I would have REALLY enjoyed this to be optional. I never noticed in the PTS as I was in IC and always seemed to be in battle - not peacefully questing. As someone who plays certain characters with minimal UI (no quest tracker, no quest markers on some) I would really prefer that this be an option.

    Do you like the new change?
    Your Magicka, Health, and Stamina bars will now remain visible while under an active effect, such as food buffs.

    Love it, if anything make it a toggle, but please leave them on.
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  • Araxleon
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    Yes
    Options are nice.

    I do think it should START with this turned on when you make a character as this is VERY useful for a new player, and if they want it off they can have it in the options to turn it off. (but keeping it on has many benefits)

    after all the UI is extremely minimal already
    Edited by Araxleon on September 1, 2015 11:20PM
  • MissBizz
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    No
    Araxleon wrote: »
    Options are nice.

    I do think it should START with this turned on when you make a character as this is VERY useful for a new player, and if they want it off they can have it in the options to turn it off. (but keeping it on has many benefits)

    after all the UI is extremely minimal already

    I actually think the same @Araxleon . I saw someone mentioned they didn't care if it was off by default, but I think on by default would be much better. Many people don't read patch notes (or do and miss a couple) so having it on lets people know its available. If they don't like it, I bet they will look for a way to turn it off (like I did)
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  • Avenias
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    Yes
    I like it because i dont want to use the dam add on to see it. Its one of the basic aspects of any rpg, being able to monitor ur dam hp and mana bars.
  • Dahkoht
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    No
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    What possible reason did you take the option away to begin with ? No really , answer that ,

    Bets on response from them ?
  • Dahkoht
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    No
    J2JMC wrote: »
    This is a big deal to me. On console we get screwed as turning it off still pops up when buffed which is stupid. Off is off

    Now it's always on which is stupid

    Oh the irony of you asking for options.

    Anyway, this does need to be optional. This particular problem does not bother me. That being said, I need to ensure most, if not all, UI configurations are optional so I can have my buff timers and damage numbers on console without interrupting the play of those who do not like them. ZOS listen to the people. We want information, communication and option...ation.

    Edit: Changed OP to more accurately reflect my intentions.

    I think the option should be there also , but the deliciousness I am getting from him having wanting an option he wants and isnt going to be there is , oh god , so delicious.
  • Rodvic
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    No
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Yay!
  • Moloch1514
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    No
    I thought this was a bug! Immersion is broken with this forced on us. Please make an optional UI setting ZOS!
    PC-NA
  • TequilaFire
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    I don't care
    Hey guys, thanks for all your feedback. We are looking into other options for this, and will let you know when we have something nailed down.

    Console too please!
    And a way to turn UI off on console for screenshots like I can on my PC version would be nice.

  • Hope499
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    No
    Avenias wrote: »
    I like it because i dont want to use the dam add on to see it. Its one of the basic aspects of any rpg, being able to monitor ur dam hp and mana bars.

    But they show during combat anyway....
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Hope499 wrote: »
    Avenias wrote: »
    I like it because i dont want to use the dam add on to see it. Its one of the basic aspects of any rpg, being able to monitor ur dam hp and mana bars.

    But they show during combat anyway....

    Options are key. For everyone ;).
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  • MissBizz
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    No
    Hope499 wrote: »
    Avenias wrote: »
    I like it because i dont want to use the dam add on to see it. Its one of the basic aspects of any rpg, being able to monitor ur dam hp and mana bars.

    But they show during combat anyway....

    Options are key. For everyone ;).

    Exactly @Attorneyatlawl ! I'll keep voting for those ugly *ehem* useful name tags floating above people's heads ;) (You know, since they'll obviously have an "off" option heh)
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    <3@MissBizz. Exactly the reasoning I have for most options. If you don't like them, they can always be toggled on or off, dependent on if you do of course :)!
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