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Nightblade = God Mode In The Imperial City
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ChefZero✭✭✭✭Soloplayer<NB<organized groups
Of course NB's feels strong on PTS, but there are no big guildraids. Wait for Live and you will see, that NB's aren't the big problem.PC EU - DC only1 -
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Of course NB's feels strong on PTS, but there are no big guildraids. Wait for Live and you will see, that NB's aren't the big problem.
What makes you think there will be big guild raids in every district, every sewer, all day, at 1 month after release? Especially if they introduce gated access which they intend to do.
If NBs are de facto better off than other solo players as you seem to suggest, doesn't that show a problem with the way the content is designed?
To stress, even though I believe NBs are the strongest class in 2.1, I don't believe they are OP in Cyrodiil. I just believe IC suits the magicka NB's skillset and playstyle far, far more than any other class. And that's even before all the buffs and fixes they got this patch.EU | PC | AD5 -
twistedmonk✭✭✭Imperial City PvP was designed for group PvP / PvE
Join a group and stop trying to 1vX. you can't 1vX in this game anymore and that's a good thing.
A group of 8 people can still kill a group of 16 or more if they are well organized.
the game has changed. adapt.2 -
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That's because the 10000 ahead of you quit already.
Sorry couldn't resist. You pitched a softball. Lol2 -
Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭Darnathian wrote: »
That's because the 10000 ahead of you quit already.
Sorry couldn't resist. You pitched a softball. Lol
Except you're wrong. I was emperor many many months ago, and it was extremely difficult. That and I never speak about it or even use the title until some cheeseball tries to question my experience level.
While were on the subject. I didnt do it for bragging rights. I did it for 2% regen, but now, thats been sh*tcanned too.
Edited by Xeven on August 26, 2015 12:54AM2 -
twistedmonk✭✭✭The Zerg is going to be god-mode in Imperial City when it goes live.
solo players won't do very well at all.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭When i took part in the skirmishes on PTS (memorial district), i could survive on my sorc way easier than on my NB, despite having far more experience playing a NB than playing a sorc. Shield, shield, bolt towards enemy line, unload, someone on me? bolt back to safety behind teammates, repeat. I think i died once because i fat-fingered the wrong button.1 -
Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭I say screw it, give us sandbox spec lines. That way I can have a Whip, ward, breath of life and cloak spamming toon. That sounds like fun.Here since Beta.
Characters: All of them, both Stamina and Magicka.2 -
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Cloak is a key skill used in a technique to drop aggro, which is easily done in the IC. You can see it for yourself right now. Log in.
Hi, ESO is so awesome. Still so much stuff to learn. Would you mind sharing that technique with us? The only way I manage to clear Aggro with Cloak is to perma clock until the mobs reset. But if there is a more efficient way to do it, I would gladly take lessons from you.
BTW: Sorry for not contributing to the OT, but there are already so many threads about that...Jeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.2 -
hellkrasher✭✭✭snip
NB Fanboy detected. You are blindly defending anything regarding NBs. You may have trueth in some regards, but wow... you cant argue that you are blinded about NBs :P
[Moderator Note: Removed moderated quote]Edited by ZOS_Brett on August 26, 2015 9:08AMAldmeri Dominion Characters: Hellkrasher, Hellcrasher, Hell Krasher, Hell Crasher, Hellcrash.
VR16 Dunmer DK
VR16 Arognian Templar
VR14 Argonian DK
VR14 Altmer Sorcerer
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sagitter✭✭✭✭✭Pangnirtung wrote: »Is this any different than a year ago when it was the DKs who were overpowered?
Just a hunch, this will be a complaint until the servers go down for good one day. There will NEVER be balance in PVP.
There is a difference, dk have been better, NB have not been buffet just got cloak almost fixed.1 -
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✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »I think they need to stop Magicka Regen from Cloak just like Mist Form. This way magicka nightblade's will eventually need a safe place to regen rather then running around cloaking 24/7.
Then stamina nightblades can use cloak 2-3 times (if it doesn't get countered) then die, specially with the dodgenerf?
Rather a cost increase if you spam it.
Add a no regen when spamming shields aswell then , see how all people like this.
People always seems to forget not every nightblade is a magicka nb permacloaking.
People also seem to forget that not every sorc is a magic sorc with 2k magic regen and stacked cost reductions. But hey, lets nerf bolt escape some more lol.
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✭✭No matter how many of these threads pop up. The meta will change and after a couple of weeks, no one talks nightblades anymore and everyone will bash on the emergent FOTM for three month, then we have the next patch and the same cycle starts anew.
Like seasons. Can't fight them so live with them.1 -
Junglejim82✭✭✭Hmm people really are against invisibility/detect pots aren't they? What's worse than fighting a shield stacked sorc? Fighting one with a stack of invisibility pots. I never pvp without detection pots ready for the ramparts . Nice crit buffing detection potsJungleim
Stamblade extrordinaire (for now)
Mass Terror /elders of anarchy ps4 e.u
Daggerfalls finest
Always looking for serious pvpers not afraid to mic up. See below
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/181697/massterror-ps4-eu-daggerfall-are-recruiting#latest0 -
Amica✭✭✭Hey shashu of dc, Peoples QQ about NBs. Just wait for the zerg's in the city, your NB issues will seem petty. Oh the impulse spam and the Templar jabs spam is going to be EPIC rage materiel.NB Shashu of DC
DK William x Wallace of DC
In game @Amica.
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Seth_Black✭✭✭it's like other classes can't use vanish potion...
3-piece alchemy cd reduction enchants + vanish/immovable/hp restore potion or vanish/speed/stam restore
ANY class can fight NB with same weapon (stealth)
and biggest problem for most of the players is understanding how NB fights.
JUST CREATE ONE - L2P it, understand it and then find a way to fight it
just stop crying on forums about OP classes
some players are op as any class - secret is in using BRAIN
Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
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✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »I think they need to stop Magicka Regen from Cloak just like Mist Form. This way magicka nightblade's will eventually need a safe place to regen rather then running around cloaking 24/7.
Then stamina nightblades can use cloak 2-3 times (if it doesn't get countered) then die, specially with the dodgenerf?
Rather a cost increase if you spam it.
Add a no regen when spamming shields aswell then , see how all people like this.
People always seems to forget not every nightblade is a magicka nb permacloaking.
I dont see why not, stamina sorcerors can maybe cast bolt escape 3 times before depleting thier magicka. Why should cloak be any different.
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Cloak is a key skill used in a technique to drop aggro, which is easily done in the IC. You can see it for yourself right now. Log in.
Hi, ESO is so awesome. Still so much stuff to learn. Would you mind sharing that technique with us? The only way I manage to clear Aggro with Cloak is to perma clock until the mobs reset. But if there is a more efficient way to do it, I would gladly take lessons from you.
BTW: Sorry for not contributing to the OT, but there are already so many threads about that...
Well, the way I do it, is I cloak, the monsters go passive as if they have a seisure, if noone else is around for them to aggro, they will stand there passive until I reappear, then I just recloak. If there is someone nearby for them to aggro while im cloaked, mobs will target that player, then I can pop out of cloak again and attack that other player with the mobs, they might reaggro me after littlebit, sure, but if they do, rince and repeat.
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✭The end is nigh."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
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Well, the way I do it, is I cloak, the monsters go passive as if they have a seisure, if noone else is around for them to aggro, they will stand there passive until I reappear, then I just recloak. If there is someone nearby for them to aggro while im cloaked, mobs will target that player, then I can pop out of cloak again and attack that other player with the mobs, they might reaggro me after littlebit, sure, but if they do, rince and repeat.
From my experience in a certain cave in Cyrodiil, the mobs stay aggro on the cloaked player until the other guy starts attacking them in some way. If not, they just reaggro you after you reappear. Did this behaviour change in Update 7?
Seems to be a rare occation as well as your target needs to move to the mob group you're hidding instead of going "who cares" and moves on, doesnt have a detection potion ready, doesnt use mage light and has no flare. Sure people say that flare is rarely used but meta is shifting fast and IF everyone and their mothers roll Magicka Nightblades in the next patch, using a slot or 2 to counter 90% of the IC population seems reasonable.
Edited by Jeckll on August 26, 2015 10:34AMJeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.2 -
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Well, the way I do it, is I cloak, the monsters go passive as if they have a seisure, if noone else is around for them to aggro, they will stand there passive until I reappear, then I just recloak. If there is someone nearby for them to aggro while im cloaked, mobs will target that player, then I can pop out of cloak again and attack that other player with the mobs, they might reaggro me after littlebit, sure, but if they do, rince and repeat.
From my experience in a certain cave in Cyrodiil, the mobs stay aggro on the cloaked player until the other guy starts attacking them in some way. If not, they just reaggro you after you reappear. Did this behaviour change in Update 7?
One cloak might not do it, but 2-3+ and mobs are surely looking for someone else to attack.
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Well, the way I do it, is I cloak, the monsters go passive as if they have a seisure, if noone else is around for them to aggro, they will stand there passive until I reappear, then I just recloak. If there is someone nearby for them to aggro while im cloaked, mobs will target that player, then I can pop out of cloak again and attack that other player with the mobs, they might reaggro me after littlebit, sure, but if they do, rince and repeat.
From my experience in a certain cave in Cyrodiil, the mobs stay aggro on the cloaked player until the other guy starts attacking them in some way. If not, they just reaggro you after you reappear. Did this behaviour change in Update 7?
One cloak might not do it, but 2-3+ and mobs are surely looking for someone else to attack.
No they are not. Proximity aggro (pulling mobs simply by standing close to them) only works if the mob is not already aggroed on someone else. If you do not hit the mob that is aggroed on the cloaked nightblade, it will stay aggroed on him forever(or until the NB runs so far away that the mob resets, same as with a non-cloaked player)1 -
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Well, the way I do it, is I cloak, the monsters go passive as if they have a seisure, if noone else is around for them to aggro, they will stand there passive until I reappear, then I just recloak. If there is someone nearby for them to aggro while im cloaked, mobs will target that player, then I can pop out of cloak again and attack that other player with the mobs, they might reaggro me after littlebit, sure, but if they do, rince and repeat.
From my experience in a certain cave in Cyrodiil, the mobs stay aggro on the cloaked player until the other guy starts attacking them in some way. If not, they just reaggro you after you reappear. Did this behaviour change in Update 7?
One cloak might not do it, but 2-3+ and mobs are surely looking for someone else to attack.
No they are not. Proximity aggro (pulling mobs simply by standing close to them) only works if the mob is not already aggroed on someone else. If you do not hit the mob that is aggroed on the cloaked nightblade, it will stay aggroed on him forever(or until the NB runs so far away that the mob resets, same as with a non-cloaked player)
I'm pretty sure there is a timer after which they reset. That timer used to be 5 seconds in 1.5, which is why you could sometimes drop aggro in a 6" Batswarm and reset the fight.
It is no longer is 5" but there is a timer, not sure what it is but I will test and find out.
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WolfingHour✭✭✭✭Crikey, so much inaccurate information in the OP...
I suggest closing this thread and starting over to get a new conversation, based on facts rather that fiction, going. Or at the very least edit the OP.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »
Well, the way I do it, is I cloak, the monsters go passive as if they have a seisure, if noone else is around for them to aggro, they will stand there passive until I reappear, then I just recloak. If there is someone nearby for them to aggro while im cloaked, mobs will target that player, then I can pop out of cloak again and attack that other player with the mobs, they might reaggro me after littlebit, sure, but if they do, rince and repeat.
From my experience in a certain cave in Cyrodiil, the mobs stay aggro on the cloaked player until the other guy starts attacking them in some way. If not, they just reaggro you after you reappear. Did this behaviour change in Update 7?
One cloak might not do it, but 2-3+ and mobs are surely looking for someone else to attack.
No they are not. Proximity aggro (pulling mobs simply by standing close to them) only works if the mob is not already aggroed on someone else. If you do not hit the mob that is aggroed on the cloaked nightblade, it will stay aggroed on him forever(or until the NB runs so far away that the mob resets, same as with a non-cloaked player)
I'm pretty sure there is a timer after which they reset. That timer used to be 5 seconds in 1.5, which is why you could sometimes drop aggro in a 6" Batswarm and reset the fight.
It is no longer is 5" but there is a timer, not sure what it is but I will test and find out.
To be honest, i never actually tried to aggro something and then continually cloak for 5 minutes to see if it deaggos or not(i'm playing a stamina NB since release so i never could do that).
However, i did often cloak several times in a row(for longer than 5 seconds for sure) when trying to get away from a bad pull, and never saw the mobs reset. They froze while i was invisible, then continued to chase. Only when i managed to get out of their tether range did they reset (they ran up to me, hit me once, then sheathed weapons and ran back).1 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭Guy's, mobs have to reset aggro, if the target isn't visible. Otherwise cloakspamming NB would be the best tank in PVE
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olemanwinter✭✭✭✭✭I don't understand ESO players.
Ability to "1vX" is perfectly "balanced".
1 player killing another single player? "OP god mode"
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trimsic_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I know so many people who currently are rerolling a NB (me included)...
The positive side effect of this is that the other classes will get some love in the next patch. Well may be.0 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭olemanwinter wrote: »I don't understand ESO players.
Ability to "1vX" is perfectly "balanced".
1 player killing another single player? "OP god mode"
lol
Right! IC is still a grouppvp update. Not my problem, if someone plays mmorpg solo :PPC EU - DC only0