Don't make AP worthless.
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We badly need vr16 versions of existing gear such as morag tong, light of cyrodiil etc. Now, I'm not sure if these are going to become the new Rewards of the Worthy, because I did see something about 11 sets being available in those rewards now? If so, /end thread.
However, if not, then AP has almost no purpose. Even now on live Cyrodiil feels dead. People don't want to PvP because there are no rewards. A ridiculously small % of people get any decent campaign rewards. (2%...LOL did zos forget people have jobs, lives, families? 20% would be more reasonable.) Which leaves the only reward for PvP for most people being AP. If no VR16 gear is available with AP, its worth is greatly decreased, and overnight the battle for cyrodiil becomes only about IC access, a very depressing state of affairs.
Please don't let this happen. We need VR16 versions of the lottery bags and the vendor AP gear. Tonight I logged in to Cyro, thought to myself, wtf is the point, and logged back out to play something else...
If anyone on PTS can comment on new rewards for the worthy that would be appreciated, thanks.
/end thread.
However, if not, then AP has almost no purpose. Even now on live Cyrodiil feels dead. People don't want to PvP because there are no rewards. A ridiculously small % of people get any decent campaign rewards. (2%...LOL did zos forget people have jobs, lives, families? 20% would be more reasonable.) Which leaves the only reward for PvP for most people being AP. If no VR16 gear is available with AP, its worth is greatly decreased, and overnight the battle for cyrodiil becomes only about IC access, a very depressing state of affairs.
Please don't let this happen. We need VR16 versions of the lottery bags and the vendor AP gear. Tonight I logged in to Cyro, thought to myself, wtf is the point, and logged back out to play something else...
If anyone on PTS can comment on new rewards for the worthy that would be appreciated, thanks.
/end thread.
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Trayyacakes✭✭✭✭While I will agree that AP needs a point, and there should be V16 sets to buy with AP and such. Cyrodiil is not loosing pop just because of the lack of rewards. Cyrodiil is loosing population because of poor performance and the one shot or zerg meta.Bjorn Uldnost7 -
Detector✭✭✭✭I'm agree. Need v16 version of old equipment. Or AP is useless...Edited by Detector on August 11, 2015 2:11PM0
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MCMancub✭✭✭✭Trayyacakes wrote: »While I will agree that AP needs a point, and there should be V16 sets to buy with AP and such. Cyrodiil is not loosing pop just because of the lack of rewards. Cyrodiil is loosing population because of poor performance and the one shot or zerg meta.
This. I've had to switch campaigns from Azura's Star to Haderus simply because it is not possible for me to join Azura's during peak hours and ever have less than 500 ping anywhere on the map. The lag is destroying it.0 -
Beesting✭✭✭✭I played on the pts with 2 chars for a few days and got 2 end of campain emails. Time split was even on both chars, i got two purple rewards and 1500 gold
I shared my drops in this post:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/204618/my-end-of-campain-rewards-share-yours#latest
interesting fact is that the rewards are BOUND ON PICKUP
so it will take a while to get the gear you like
Another dude dropped a blue vr15 elf bane chest in a normal rewards bag, the one that you get during normal play. I dont know if it was bound when he got it, it was when he linked it to me.
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✭We need to be able to use AP for things other than siege weapons and repair equipment. We need sets to spend these on. I have over a million AP and don't have the room for only buying siege equipment with that. All existing AP sets should be increased to max level whether that's V14 for them or higher.
Give us something decent to use AP on please....NA Server - Kildair0 -
Rioht✭✭✭I played on the pts with 2 chars for a few days and got 2 end of campain emails. Time split was even on both chars, i got two purple rewards and 1500 gold
I shared my drops in this post:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/204618/my-end-of-campain-rewards-share-yours#latest
interesting fact is that the rewards are BOUND ON PICKUP
so it will take a while to get the gear you like
Another dude dropped a blue vr15 elf bane chest in a normal rewards bag, the one that you get during normal play. I dont know if it was bound when he got it, it was when he linked it to me.
This is the same as live. End of campaigns are for the most part BOP. I've heard of some.being tradable, never got any myself.0 -
Stikato✭✭✭✭✭I played on the pts with 2 chars for a few days and got 2 end of campain emails. Time split was even on both chars, i got two purple rewards and 1500 gold
I shared my drops in this post:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/204618/my-end-of-campain-rewards-share-yours#latest
interesting fact is that the rewards are BOUND ON PICKUP
so it will take a while to get the gear you like
Another dude dropped a blue vr15 elf bane chest in a normal rewards bag, the one that you get during normal play. I dont know if it was bound when he got it, it was when he linked it to me.
This is the same as live. End of campaigns are for the most part BOP. I've heard of some.being tradable, never got any myself.
Hmm, I sold some ravager gear I got from an end of campaign mail a couple months ago. Did this change recently?Mordimus - Stam Sorc0 -
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Maybe people will actually siege now instead of hoarding ap for gear while expecting everybody else to to the leg work.1
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✭✭I played on the pts with 2 chars for a few days and got 2 end of campain emails. Time split was even on both chars, i got two purple rewards and 1500 gold
I shared my drops in this post:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/204618/my-end-of-campain-rewards-share-yours#latest
interesting fact is that the rewards are BOUND ON PICKUP
so it will take a while to get the gear you like
Another dude dropped a blue vr15 elf bane chest in a normal rewards bag, the one that you get during normal play. I dont know if it was bound when he got it, it was when he linked it to me.
This is the same as live. End of campaigns are for the most part BOP. I've heard of some.being tradable, never got any myself.
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asteldian✭✭✭✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »Maybe people will actually siege now instead of hoarding ap for gear while expecting everybody else to to the leg work.
Except what are they seiging for? AP is worthless and so is Cyrodil. If you want PvP go to IC where you get more combat and currency to buy gear.2 -
Yuke✭✭✭✭✭some1 told me that you will be able to buy IC teleportation stones with APs? Can anyone else cofirm this? Couldnt find info about it.0 -
AssaultLemming✭✭✭✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »Maybe people will actually siege now instead of hoarding ap for gear while expecting everybody else to to the leg work.
Except what are they seiging for? AP is worthless and so is Cyrodil. If you want PvP go to IC where you get more combat and currency to buy gear.
I'm really hoping that the new rewards for the worthy and end of campaign rewards contain the vr16 sets that currently cost AP, but no-one seems to know which sets are now included in these.
If they do then that's actually a really positive move for cyro as those are granted for playing the objectives (although I'm not 100% sure on the rewards for the worthy, are those granted for attack/defence, or for AP?)
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Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »Maybe people will actually siege now instead of hoarding ap for gear while expecting everybody else to to the leg work.
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Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »Maybe people will actually siege now instead of hoarding ap for gear while expecting everybody else to to the leg work.
Except what are they seiging for? AP is worthless and so is Cyrodil. If you want PvP go to IC where you get more combat and currency to buy gear.
Im not sure if you are serious or joking... you possibly cant be that hum... unsmart
Regardless, you gain ap, you receive rewards of the worthy in mail.
Ill stop there and wait and see if you are smart enough to guess what this means...0 -
asteldian✭✭✭✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »Maybe people will actually siege now instead of hoarding ap for gear while expecting everybody else to to the leg work.
Except what are they seiging for? AP is worthless and so is Cyrodil. If you want PvP go to IC where you get more combat and currency to buy gear.
Im not sure if you are serious or joking... you possibly cant be that hum... unsmart
Regardless, you gain ap, you receive rewards of the worthy in mail.
Ill stop there and wait and see if you are smart enough to guess what this means...
For the very small minority the potential of good stuff (top 2%?) For everyone else it means an evening or two to get top tier rewards then IC.0 -
Tors✭✭✭✭✭AssaultLemming wrote: »A ridiculously small % of people get any decent campaign rewards. (2%...LOL did zos forget people have jobs, lives, families? 20% would be more reasonable.).
Its not that bad, sometimes when you enter a campaign and get a single AP you are in the top thousand already. It takes little work to get into the top 50.
By making it that much easier, you take away from the people who PvP every night, day in day out. These people already play with the lack of PvE goodies (generally) and have fewer CP that those who spend the time in PvE.
Why make this imbalance even greater?Better late Than Pregnant....
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That has been mentioned in passing. Haven't actually remembered to look for it on PTS myself though.some1 told me that you will be able to buy IC teleportation stones with APs? Can anyone else cofirm this? Couldnt find info about it.
I agree that AP still needs to mean something; if they are adamant that TV Stones will be the only way to "buy" V16 gear, can we think of anything else that AP could be good for instead? It's also possible that when V16 has existed for a while that there will be gear available to buy with APs; I don't think the V12 gear was available with APs as soon as V12 was rolled out.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Tors✭✭✭✭✭some1 told me that you will be able to buy IC teleportation stones with APs? Can anyone else cofirm this? Couldn't find info about it.
Not that I have seen, only with TV stones (500 a pop and can only carry the one)Better late Than Pregnant....
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Taonnor✭✭✭✭✭It will be great to have more options with AP like upgrades for guild keeps/resources to make them stronger in defense or add more/harder guards.
Add more objectives into the map like the broken mile gates and bridges (faction specific) that can we claim and upgrade too, so we got better border safety of our home keeps.
Or add controlling over the cities around the map with upgrading too, so that they give resources to the front line (guards, stronger walls/gates and so on).Guild
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It's not completely worthless. Just mostly. I make good gold laundering it with Cyrodiil Light rings. Of course I don't need more gold any more than I need more AP...Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
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Having extra keep upgrades as an AP sink would be a great addition I think. Assuming upgrades would be lost if the keep was captured by an enemy, this would be a constant and persistent sink of AP that you wouldn't "outlevel" or "complete" like you do with gear sets bought with AP.It will be great to have more options with AP like upgrades for guild keeps/resources to make them stronger in defense or add more/harder guards.
Add more objectives into the map like the broken mile gates and bridges (faction specific) that can we claim and upgrade too, so we got better border safety of our home keeps.
Or add controlling over the cities around the map with upgrading too, so that they give resources to the front line (guards, stronger walls/gates and so on).UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭It's very simple, they don't want those people with millions of AP stored up to have an immediate advantage because they can buy all the best gear as soon as they log on after Update 7 hits. You will get the new higher leveled versions of pre-existing sets from Rewards of the Worthy.0
