I think you were unlucky. Sometimes he procs, and sometimes not.

But it is true, they promised to make the daedroth viable (viable means valkyn skoria viable), but he isn´t. He needs to stay longer.

I agree with what OP wrote. I tested out the set on PTS and it is definitely still WAY too weak compared to the other popular sets like Skoria. Here is why:

The main problem is his AI. It's absolutely stupid. I watched him run up to an assassin type enemy, wind up his fire breath, and then MISS COMPLETELY since the enemy moved two steps to the left.

In another test against a ranged mob (initially in close range), he spent 1 second staring at me after the summoning and 1/2 seconds more running to the enemy's position. He then wasted a few more chasing after that mob (since ranged mobs like to back away from melee range and into cover) since apparently he doesn't like to attack while moving. If the sorc's Clannfear/Familiar can do it, why can't this summon do it as well?

Next test against a group of 2/3 mobs. He apparently has occasional aggro issues as well, since he'll swipe one enemy once, then mysteriously disengage to chase down that archer 10 meters away that just hit him with an arrow spray. WHY?

And finally, the nail in the helmet for this set. The daedroth that is summoned is NOT immune to CC. Unlike every other daedroth in the wild, the one you summon can be knocked around. Is he gonna breathe fire on that Ravager mob? Nope, he was interrupted by an Uppercut. Is he gonna chase down that Ice Mage? Nope, he just got rooted by her Icy Whirlwind.

And finally, when all the stars align and he actually gets into a good position to breathe fire on a bunch of enemies... he immediately DIES since his timer ran out. I know the above problems also apply to sorceror summons, but at least they last indefinitely, so they will eventually hit their targets.

Sigh. I love the idea of combat companions, and any game with competent friendly AI gets a huge plus in my book. Skyrim had companions that knew how to swap spells based on enemy weaknesses, and this MMO can't even get a simple attack sequence right?

This is a boss set, Zenimax. It is supposed to be something players should be excited to get and excited to use, so here are my suggestions on how to improve the set

- increase duration of summon
- increase attack speed
- or perhaps scrap the Daedroth altogether and replace it with a skeletal/Dremora Fire Mage or something (Banished Cells theme I guess). Ranged NPCs don't have the problem of wasting time chasing enemies, which would increase the time actually spent ATTACKING THE ENEMY.

They improved Nerienth´s, cant be so hard to make the other Monster Sets viable ^^

Dracane wrote: »

actosh wrote: »

They improved Nerienth´s, cant be so hard to make the other Monster Sets viable ^^

Nerien Eth hits pretty hard now, I tested it. This is a great option to Valkyn now. As not everyone uses DoTs. This basially is the non-DK Valkyn

So basically all monsters sets are great now expect for the Daedroth and this Fungal Grotto thing

Which sucks because mephala's set has a pretty cool ability and I like the way it looks. But it's just not nearly as good as bloodspawn for tanking

LOOK, how bravely big Dino is fighting.
Big Dino procs (after 10 minutes of light attack spamming) the first thing Big Dino does, is launching a fire attack right into nowhere. Seems like the Dino is blind and cannot see the enemies.

The next thing the Dino attempts to do, is trying to hit an enemy. The first hit totally misses, as his range is too short and the enemy took 1 step. His second hit (and the only in his short 15 seconds life) hits the target for WOOOOW 2,2k ?Dinooo, you are so strong, but can't you do more ? Wait no.... Dino's attacks can't crit.

You might ask, why I don't tell him to attacka target ? I can't unlike the Sorcerers pets, you cannot command the Dino.

And in the last seconds of his short life, Dino FINALLY is next to an enemy and he is just about to launch is fire breath. But.... then gets knocked back by wrecking blow and in mid air, his short Dino life ends.

REST IN PEACE DINO. Thanks for dealing 2k damage in 15 seconds. #KillerDPS

I care about the set because it is the coolest thematically.

I agree it isn't viable. Biggest problems associated with the set:

• Procs too low. I am of the opinion a user should NEVER forget they are wearing a monster set. Valkyn has a chance to proc without doing anything. Engine proc on any skill you use. Not a coincidence these are two of the most popular sets. Even if Zos tripled the proc rate - 15% on basic attack - it would still be a novelty item.
• Moves too slow / takes to long to attack.
• Lack of crit as per the OP
• Very short "active" time. Low proc rate + slow speed + short duration = wondering what it actually did.

• Proc rate too low
• Dmg too low
• moves too slow
• Needs way more health

I agree with the above.

I also find it odd that an npc charge attack can knock the daedroth down. Yet when I fight one, none of my knockdowns will work on them as they are boss monsters. Last night I had a Kwarma knock mine down. The mass difference of of the two doesn't even make sense.

Allowing the Daedroth to turn or move when breathing fire would alleviate the enemies just staking a step to get out of it.