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110-150 Raw Materials To Craft ONE VR16 Item!?
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Gyudan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭5 traits required, really?
Does crafting matter at all anymore? EVERYBODY can create those items.
Wololo.2 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭oooh .. need to work on my grip
Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
Francis Ford Coppola - BS Dracula: The Film and the Legend0 -
Rioht✭✭✭That's insane.
Hopefully ZoS realises this is a bit overkill on the grinding and reduces this before it goes live.2 -
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✭✭I completely agree. Unless the raw materials are going to drop three times as easily/more plentiful than what we currently see in the PVE areas of the game, then the amount of refined mats they are requiring to make armor for IC is just asinine.
It should follow the same as every other refined material in this game for Crafting and be no more than 10 mats above what is required for current V14 armor to make V15 and another 10 refined mats above that for V16.
I am feeling better and better about my decision not to purchase this with everything I am seeing coming out of there now that PTS is released.
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Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »What I don't like is the fact that I see based on the icon that the new metal does not change the swords detail whatsoever. I guess swords will no longer receive any more detail enhancements after veteran ranked armor huh.
They stopped making visual enhancements even before vet level. Once you hit dwarven ore level (high 30's), your weapon/armor appearance is the same after that. Guess they ran out of ideas for enhancements on appearance.
Actually, they made visuals for all weapons and shields beyond the ones we have now. For whatever reason they just don't use them for crafted stuff.
For example, master weapons use that style. The Master Frost Staff uses the unimplemented Nord style, etc.
And the material cost, combined with the low decrafting yield and high TV cost, seems wildly excessive.Edited by Faulgor on July 29, 2015 5:03AMAlandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.0 -
AJ_1988✭✭✭I'm more than happy to gather that many mats to craft I personally think it's too easy with small amounts. All I do is sell them these days as I have too many. Deadric and dwemer are the only ones I collect. But that's my personal opinion. I enjoy the challenge.
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What's weird is VR15 uses WAY less. I don't recall the piece, but something I checked took 15 mats for VR15 and 150 for VR16. I am hoping its a typo.
Every VR16 item is like that. The VR15s have mat costs that are either equal to Vet 9 quantities, or Vet 10 quantities... you know, like normal. Then the VR16s all have a cost that is ten times higher than the VR15 costs. If the VR15 cost 10, the VR16 costs 100. If the VR15 cost 15, the VR16 costs 150.0 -
ontheleftcoast✭✭✭✭✭This looks so out of whack that I'm guessing it's a ploy by ZOS to keep heaps of VR16 gear from being made, even on the PTS. at least for now. They want to see what people can do with the VR15 stuff before they open the flood gates to VR16 items.
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✭Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.
LMAO "Grind mindlessly until the next DLC comes out which will make everything you grinded for obsolete. Then repeat"
Great plan
Uh...MMO?Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...0 -
R3DTHR3AT✭✭Nice decision, IC should be longtime content.Aetherius Eight guild. World 1st HM SO team member.1 -
OzJohnD✭✭✭✭Nice decision, IC should be longtime content.
until V18 with Orsinium
... and V20 with Thieve's Guild
.. and ..
. and .
Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.
Francis Ford Coppola - BS Dracula: The Film and the Legend4 -
azoriangaming✭✭✭✭i'm sure that this is just a error in code this is why we have thing in pts to test and if it isn't an error then it needs changing lol3 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.
That could be reasonable if they increased DSA and Trials to scale to VR16 for example, but the grind seems to be all there is. You spend time grinding and then what? I think there should be some goal to accomplish with the gear, rather then the gear being the goal.5 -
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✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »i'm sure that this is just a error in code this is why we have thing in pts to test and if it isn't an error then it needs changing lol
Errors like this in code should not be making it to the PTS. It is obvious they have no Quality Control department.Far too many characters to list any more.4 -
azoriangaming✭✭✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »i'm sure that this is just a error in code this is why we have thing in pts to test and if it isn't an error then it needs changing lol
Errors like this in code should not be making it to the PTS. It is obvious they have no Quality Control department.
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Ra'Shtar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hey guys don't forget that there are NO new raw material, only Refined version...
(which you get from deconing stuff and buying 1 for 100 telvar stones...and it seems the drop from deconing is...almost 5% chance lol) Edited by Ra'Shtar on July 29, 2015 6:21AMSome of my favorite screenshots
My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hey guys don't forget that there are NO new raw material, only Refined version... (which you get from deconing stuff and buying 1 for 100 telvar stones...and it seems the drop from deconing is...almost 5% chance lol)
The thing that honestly cracks me up about this? The Vet 16 stuff isn't really that much better than the Vet 15. It's the same normal "one VR higher" change you get from going from 10 to 11, or 14 to 15.
Maybe it has some crazy scaling in the quality upgrades, but if that's the case, I'm not seeing it (obviously).3 -
fallensbane_ESO✭✭✭rdbrown1987 wrote: »i'm sure that this is just a error in code this is why we have thing in pts to test and if it isn't an error then it needs changing lol
Errors like this in code should not be making it to the PTS. It is obvious they have no Quality Control department.
If this makes it to launch, horrible. But you have no basis to judge the QA team that likely does its job and is ignored by the higher ups...
http://kotaku.com/quality-assured-what-it-s-really-like-to-play-games-fo-1720053842
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perhaps the new PVE zone isn't far off and once that releases there will be the opportunity to farm it in raw form. not that i think its a good idea, but they like to half ass odd systems in hopes you stick around longer, a lot.I will work. I will save. I will sacrifice. I will endure. I will fight cheerfully and do my utmost, as if the whole issue of the struggle depended on me alone.
Martin A. Treptow
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Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »Hey guys don't forget that there are NO new raw material, only Refined version... (which you get from deconing stuff and buying 1 for 100 telvar stones...and it seems the drop from deconing is...almost 5% chance lol)
The thing that honestly cracks me up about this? The Vet 16 stuff isn't really that much better than the Vet 15. It's the same normal "one VR higher" change you get from going from 10 to 11, or 14 to 15.
Maybe it has some crazy scaling in the quality upgrades, but if that's the case, I'm not seeing it (obviously).
Isnt that their philosophy for gears, they arent that important but if you want the very best, you need to work, so no-lifers/hc players has own goals to reach and not making them overpowered. Sounds good to me, if we are stuck to vr15 and no-lifers and HCers can grind their butt off.Edited by Sausage on July 29, 2015 6:37AM1 -
Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »They add this grind to try and keep you busy until the next DLC comes out. If you could immediately get access to all the new content, you'd likely grow bored within the week.
LMAO "Grind mindlessly until the next DLC comes out which will make everything you grinded for obsolete. Then repeat"
Great plan
Uh...MMO?
And here I thought an MMO gave you many different things to do, not one thing to do many times...4 -
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✭✭Wait. What?!Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭Started a thread in PTS forum section...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/201272/ridicolous-amount-of-materials-needed-for-vr15-and-vr16-sets?new=1
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