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Stacking Dmg Buffs on Bows to one shot! Srsly?
Funkopotamus
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So after running into this a few times now I decided to fact check this on my own.
The results are SCARY..
I will not go into this exploit as it would probably break the rules. Speaking about them should not be... I think.
Has ZOS even acknowledged the existence of this? Has it been diced to be patched as I have not seen any mention of this being fixed.
Basically you can one/two shot bosses in dungeons and HwwoMuGawd Faceroll people in PvP.
I HATE things like this and I do hope ZOS gets this fixed or good luck to ANYONE trying to enjoy PvP or the new DLC and the Tel Var stones update after this gets out to the masses and the troll kiddies.
The results are SCARY..
I will not go into this exploit as it would probably break the rules. Speaking about them should not be... I think.
Has ZOS even acknowledged the existence of this? Has it been diced to be patched as I have not seen any mention of this being fixed.
Basically you can one/two shot bosses in dungeons and HwwoMuGawd Faceroll people in PvP.
I HATE things like this and I do hope ZOS gets this fixed or good luck to ANYONE trying to enjoy PvP or the new DLC and the Tel Var stones update after this gets out to the masses and the troll kiddies.
Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington
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Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, many players know about this exploit. We have told Zenimax about it several times and they are aware of it. And yes, terribads will still exploit it when IC goes live if Zenimax doesn't fix it.
They removed one exploit today with the patch, this one needs to be next.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GaryA
You guys already know which skill and combinations of skills are bugged and being exploited. Fix it please, just like you did today with the Mara's Gift bug/exploit.Edited by Akavir_Sentinel on July 21, 2015 3:12AM2 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »Yes, many players know about this exploit. We have told Zenimax about it several times and they are aware of it. And yes, terribads will still exploit it when IC goes live if Zenimax doesn't fix it.
They removed one exploit today with the patch, this one needs to be next.
I wasn't to worried bout it until I understood exactly "How many times" you can basically infinite buff that thing to be a bolt from god himself lol.
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DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn) on a high weapon damage build?
I fail to see the difference between this buff stacking and how Sorcs stack buffs to get 15k+ Crystal Fragment hits out of stealth. For reference, the Sorc version (Also doable by Dark Flare Templars followed up by an Empowered Jesus Beam) is Agressive Horn (Major Force) + Entropy (Major Sorcery + Empower) + Crystal Fragments Proc (20% bonus dam, so double empower).Dean the Cat
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭"Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn)"
This isn't really an exploit now is it? If somebody was stacking 2-3x of empower (same buff) that would be more like and exploit/bug.
Diffrent buffs stacked up is no exploiting. Stop crying.
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Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭DeanTheCat wrote: »Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn) on a high weapon damage build?
I fail to see the difference between this buff stacking and how Sorcs stack buffs to get 15k+ Crystal Fragment hits out of stealth. For reference, the Sorc version (Also doable by Dark Flare Templars followed up by an Empowered Jesus Beam) is Agressive Horn (Major Force) + Entropy (Major Sorcery + Empower) + Crystal Fragments Proc (20% bonus dam, so double empower).
None of those that you listed are the ones that the OP is talking about. There is a particular skill, and combination of that skill and others, that is bugged and allows you to one-shot pretty much anything.0 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭
^^Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »DeanTheCat wrote: »Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn) on a high weapon damage build?
I fail to see the difference between this buff stacking and how Sorcs stack buffs to get 15k+ Crystal Fragment hits out of stealth. For reference, the Sorc version (Also doable by Dark Flare Templars followed up by an Empowered Jesus Beam) is Agressive Horn (Major Force) + Entropy (Major Sorcery + Empower) + Crystal Fragments Proc (20% bonus dam, so double empower).
None of those that you listed are the ones that the OP is talking about. There is a particular skill, and combination of that skill and others, that is bugged and allows you to one-shot pretty much anything.
Those that Master Kas listed are nothing but Kitten Paws compared to what I was referring to.
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✭✭✭Just so people understand.
He isn't refering to stacking different damage buffs and weapon damage to 1 shot players.
He is talking about an EXPLOIT where a certain buff is stacking with itself to 1 shot players.DC Dragonknight 'Sypher - AD Nightblade Sypher Ali - AD Sorcerer Sypher Sensei - EP Sorcerer Sypharian - DC Templar Ali Sypher
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Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just so people understand.
He isn't refering to stacking different damage buffs and weapon damage to 1 shot players.
He is talking about an EXPLOIT where a certain buff is stacking with itself to 1 shot players.
And that exploit needs to be removed swiftly just like they did to the Mara's Gift exploit with the patch today.Edited by Akavir_Sentinel on July 21, 2015 3:46AM0 -
DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.Dean the Cat
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Insanity is the price of Knowledge. Herma-Mora and Sheogorath, this one bows before thee.
This one does not advocate for any class to be nerfed. There are far deeper underlying issues then a simple "Class Imbalance". The Champion System is the problem. Not classes.
Please read this before creating yet another nerf thread.
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Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
It's a certain skill. It's not CP related.0 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭
You do NOThave to have CP to create this that is the reason it is so important to get rid of it I think.DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
After the pwn kiddies get to trolling ZOS will have to address it.
^ Lmao check the times on our post.. I hit Save comment at the same time I read you had posted the same response lol.
Scary thing is this was done on a low lvl character.Edited by Funkopotamus on July 21, 2015 3:57AMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭Funkopotamus wrote: »
You do have to have CP to create this that is the reason it is so important to get rid of it I think.DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
After the pwn kiddies get to trolling ZOS will have to address it.
Thanks for confirming it's CP related. That helped a lot. I know what it is now, but I never bothered to actually test it. That will be what I'm going to do next when I log in.Dean the Cat
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Please read this before creating yet another nerf thread.
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Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭
SRY I did not mean that it was sposed to be do NOTDeanTheCat wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »
You do have to have CP to create this that is the reason it is so important to get rid of it I think.DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
After the pwn kiddies get to trolling ZOS will have to address it.
Thanks for confirming it's CP related. That helped a lot. I know what it is now, but I never bothered to actually test it. That will be what I'm going to do next when I log in.
My fault I am trying to play and respond to this post.
I will add this is on XboneEdited by Funkopotamus on July 21, 2015 4:00AMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Funkopotamus wrote: »
SRY I did not mean that it was sposed to be do NOTDeanTheCat wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »
You do have to have CP to create this that is the reason it is so important to get rid of it I think.DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
After the pwn kiddies get to trolling ZOS will have to address it.
Thanks for confirming it's CP related. That helped a lot. I know what it is now, but I never bothered to actually test it. That will be what I'm going to do next when I log in.
My fault I am trying to play and respond to this post.
I will add this is on Xbone
This exploit is also on the PC. It doesn't take any CP to do it either.0 -
DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭Funkopotamus wrote: »
SRY I did not mean that it was sposed to be do NOTDeanTheCat wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »
You do have to have CP to create this that is the reason it is so important to get rid of it I think.DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
After the pwn kiddies get to trolling ZOS will have to address it.
Thanks for confirming it's CP related. That helped a lot. I know what it is now, but I never bothered to actually test it. That will be what I'm going to do next when I log in.
My fault I am trying to play and respond to this post.
I will add this is on Xbone
Huh. Either way, I'm still going to do my own testing on the PC. I don't like exploits any more the you do, so I want to check if the exploit in question exists on the PC. If it does, I'm going to spam /bug reports till ZoS fixes it.Dean the Cat
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DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »
SRY I did not mean that it was sposed to be do NOTDeanTheCat wrote: »Funkopotamus wrote: »
You do have to have CP to create this that is the reason it is so important to get rid of it I think.DeanTheCat wrote: »If this is CP related, I think I know what you mean then. I'll need to do my own testing to confirm it though. Going to have to drag @Master_Kas to help me test it.
After the pwn kiddies get to trolling ZOS will have to address it.
Thanks for confirming it's CP related. That helped a lot. I know what it is now, but I never bothered to actually test it. That will be what I'm going to do next when I log in.
My fault I am trying to play and respond to this post.
I will add this is on Xbone
This exploit is also on the PC. It doesn't take any CP to do it either.
So... CP isn't involved then? Hmm. It may not be what I suspected then. I'll still do digging of my own.Dean the Cat
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Insanity is the price of Knowledge. Herma-Mora and Sheogorath, this one bows before thee.
This one does not advocate for any class to be nerfed. There are far deeper underlying issues then a simple "Class Imbalance". The Champion System is the problem. Not classes.
Please read this before creating yet another nerf thread.
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i know you guys are trying to hide it from destroying the game...but the truth is, exploiting it here will get it fixed much faster due to everyone becoming gods for a limited time...they would be forced to act swiftly lol.0
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✭GrieverXVII wrote: »i know you guys are trying to hide it from destroying the game...but the truth is, exploiting it here will get it fixed much faster due to everyone becoming gods for a limited time...they would be forced to act swiftly lol.
Forced to act swiftly? Hardly. This particular exploit has been known, and in use, for at least 2 or 3 months. I have sent several reports to Zenimax, as have others. The exact exploit has been posted along with a video on this forum, and each time it has been locked and removed. They know about it.0 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭GrieverXVII wrote: »i know you guys are trying to hide it from destroying the game...but the truth is, exploiting it here will get it fixed much faster due to everyone becoming gods for a limited time...they would be forced to act swiftly lol.
Yes but the unbalance would damage leader boards for those that do care. And that would then be a larger problem for everyone at ZOS!
Let alone could very well crash the economy with everyone loading up on loot in all the dungeons...
There are reasons people get banned for explaining steps to exploit and those are a few very good ones. One must think about these things.Edited by Funkopotamus on July 21, 2015 4:13AMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington1 -
Akavir_Sentinel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Those who shed light on and report exploits are the ones that get treated like criminals, while the exploiters go unpunished. ZOS logic....1 -
Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »GrieverXVII wrote: »i know you guys are trying to hide it from destroying the game...but the truth is, exploiting it here will get it fixed much faster due to everyone becoming gods for a limited time...they would be forced to act swiftly lol.
Forced to act swiftly? Hardly. This particular exploit has been known, and in use, for at least 2 or 3 months. I have sent several reports to Zenimax, as have others. The exact exploit has been posted along with a video on this forum, and each time it has been locked and removed. They know about it.
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✭DeanTheCat wrote: »Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn) on a high weapon damage build?
I fail to see the difference between this buff stacking and how Sorcs stack buffs to get 15k+ Crystal Fragment hits out of stealth. For reference, the Sorc version (Also doable by Dark Flare Templars followed up by an Empowered Jesus Beam) is Agressive Horn (Major Force) + Entropy (Major Sorcery + Empower) + Crystal Fragments Proc (20% bonus dam, so double empower).
Its not a 100% chance on instant crystal frags. However, it is a 100% chance someone with a stam build and bow especially NB can do insane bow burst dmg.♥ Snü (Magicka DK) ♥ Thnu (Stamplar) ♥ Pizza for Breakfast (Magplar) ♥ Sparklefingers (Magicka Sorc) ♥♥ Bean and Cheese Burrito (Magicka DK) ♥ Snurrito (Stamplar) ♥DARFAL COVANT0 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »DeanTheCat wrote: »Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn) on a high weapon damage build?
I fail to see the difference between this buff stacking and how Sorcs stack buffs to get 15k+ Crystal Fragment hits out of stealth. For reference, the Sorc version (Also doable by Dark Flare Templars followed up by an Empowered Jesus Beam) is Agressive Horn (Major Force) + Entropy (Major Sorcery + Empower) + Crystal Fragments Proc (20% bonus dam, so double empower).
Its not a 100% chance on instant crystal frags. However, it is a 100% chance someone with a stam build and bow especially NB can do insane bow burst dmg.
flap...flap.flap.flap flap. "crashing sound"
/e Tackles Hammay and demands Akavir to grab the tucktape!!
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DeanTheCat✭✭✭✭✭Funkopotamus wrote: »hammayolettuce wrote: »DeanTheCat wrote: »Major Brutality (Rally) , Major Berserk (Reaper's Mark) , Minor Berserk (Grim Focus), Empower (Might of the Guild) and Major Force (Agressive Horn) on a high weapon damage build?
I fail to see the difference between this buff stacking and how Sorcs stack buffs to get 15k+ Crystal Fragment hits out of stealth. For reference, the Sorc version (Also doable by Dark Flare Templars followed up by an Empowered Jesus Beam) is Agressive Horn (Major Force) + Entropy (Major Sorcery + Empower) + Crystal Fragments Proc (20% bonus dam, so double empower).
Its not a 100% chance on instant crystal frags. However, it is a 100% chance someone with a stam build and bow especially NB can do insane bow burst dmg.
flap...flap.flap.flap flap. "crashing sound"
/e Tackles Hammay and demands Akavir to grab the tucktape!!
Just perma petrify him
Then wrecking blow him off a cliff. Bonus points if it's a hammer.Dean the Cat
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This one hails from far Singapore, excuse this one for his high pings. He also apologizes for any formatting/spelling errors, as he tends to answer using a mobile device.
Insanity is the price of Knowledge. Herma-Mora and Sheogorath, this one bows before thee.
This one does not advocate for any class to be nerfed. There are far deeper underlying issues then a simple "Class Imbalance". The Champion System is the problem. Not classes.
Please read this before creating yet another nerf thread.
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✭✭✭✭I don't like to run oneshot builds like the average NB, so I don't know the details of this exploit, but it would be cool if they fixed it. Maybe I could then stop running radiant magelight and whitestrake's.
Also, FYI when they fix it you will not see it in any patch notes. They typically don't put exploit fixes in patch notes. That is if this is truly an exploit and not just terrible balancing, because there is a difference.Edited by timidobserver on July 21, 2015 4:45AMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »GrieverXVII wrote: »i know you guys are trying to hide it from destroying the game...but the truth is, exploiting it here will get it fixed much faster due to everyone becoming gods for a limited time...they would be forced to act swiftly lol.
Forced to act swiftly? Hardly. This particular exploit has been known, and in use, for at least 2 or 3 months. I have sent several reports to Zenimax, as have others. The exact exploit has been posted along with a video on this forum, and each time it has been locked and removed. They know about it.
I bookmarked a thread the other night about something along the same lines, got up and it was gone. I can confirm the hiding is real.
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Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭I cant believe zos doesnt hotfix exploits like this. I mean there are videos of people one shotting every boss in vet dungeons, so its no secret.0 -
SC0TY999✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »GrieverXVII wrote: »i know you guys are trying to hide it from destroying the game...but the truth is, exploiting it here will get it fixed much faster due to everyone becoming gods for a limited time...they would be forced to act swiftly lol.
Forced to act swiftly? Hardly. This particular exploit has been known, and in use, for at least 2 or 3 months. I have sent several reports to Zenimax, as have others. The exact exploit has been posted along with a video on this forum, and each time it has been locked and removed. They know about it.
LOL, the only thing I've ever seen ZOS hotfix is grind spots.0