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Joke? Pc players have to pay for Imperial City?
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✭i would actually love to see all PC user boykotting the test server and waiting to purchase IC after its console release, just to see the hectic at ZOS when they cant rely on their testcows, to make consoles as smoth as possible...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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washlov✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »after one year sub
after one year beta test for console
after one year without real content
after one year lag in cyrodiil
after one year paying for consol development
after one year following the carrot on the stick
after one year bad communication and promises
after one year ......
there have to be really much content in IC after this long waiting and for that price!
PC paid one year sub and console not, for what we paid?
1. Sub gave you access to the game, quit whining
2. No you didnt, you played the game, shut up
3. Valid, but many games have done that before an expansion
4. LAg is players being c**ts
5. Refer to #2 and stop crying like a baby
6. Nobody made you play the game.
7. At least you have one valid complaint
Long story short, stop whining like a baby that has sh*t in their pants.
1.ZOS choose to have Monthly Subscription
and Monthly Subscription means content updates have to come or for what you pay? playing a game lol think!!!
read this http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/the-elder-scrolls-online-tamriel-unlimited/artikel/the_elder_scrolls_online,44578,3026853.html
Matt Firor said they choosed Monthly Subscription cause meaningful and consistent content.....read
2.yes because there were a so few bugs so console release was possible...
4. sure its the players fault lol....think
5.refer to #1 and #2
6. look at this Panel one year ago
https://youtu.be/aYbl5B8R9-E Edited by washlov on July 16, 2015 3:16PM1 -
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@kupacmac , your counter to my analogy fails because:Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
You buy the bread and pay for bread delivery every 4-6 weeks.
When the bread arrives (sometimes it doesn't):- Sometimes it's late.
- Sometimes it's underbaked.
- Sometimes it's not even bread.
You continue to pay. One year in, you are notified that bread delivery service is now free to everyone, but if you continue to pay, you'll get 10% more bread.
As a one time consolation, they offer you 1 free slice of bread for every month you've paid for bread delivery service.
1.5 years in, they announce the delivery truck is now repaired and will be providing new and improved bread (that they were baking the entire time the truck was broken down) soon, but only if you pay again.
Your analogy fails because they didn't give you free bread, they gave you free currency to buy future bread. So you can save that currency and buy the new improved bread without spending a dime of your own money.- First, the key here is the part about paying for a service where something was promised but not delivered, well before B2P was announced and the consolation "prize" was offered.
- B, payment for said service was made with the understanding that additional content would be created (i.e. more types of bread.). There was not a separate sub for "current content" and a sub for "current + new content" back then.
- iii, giving you highly undervalued 'currency' (100 crowns/month vs 1500 crowns/month) for future content already funded by the previously paid for service is hardly equal measure.
- Last, I was being partly facetious, not going for absolute analogical accuracy, but you may have missed that.
We purchased the sub based game in good faith that our sub dollars provided an experience that a non-sub-based game could not. This holds true for the gameplay side and the development side.
Analyze analogies all you like. Justify as you see fit. The service paid for was not received in full, nor in good faith, for those that have been here from the start.
The content you speak of was not 'new,' it was simply held back from release so they could get paid again, whether directly, or through 'gifted crowns.'
It was funded by pre-B2P sub dollars, point blank. Had it not been for those, there would likely be no console release, nor any new content, as I'd be willing to bet the few continued subs + supplementary crown purchases since B2P wouldn't even cover half of just one of those development costs.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Parrotbrain✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »after one year sub
after one year beta test for console
after one year without real content
after one year lag in cyrodiil
after one year paying for consol development
after one year following the carrot on the stick
after one year bad communication and promises
after one year ......
there have to be really much content in IC after this long waiting and for that price!
PC paid one year sub and console not, for what we paid?
1. Sub gave you access to the game, quit whining
2. No you didnt, you played the game, shut up
3. Valid, but many games have done that before an expansion
4. LAg is players being c**ts
5. Refer to #2 and stop crying like a baby
6. Nobody made you play the game.
7. At least you have one valid complaint
Long story short, stop whining like a baby that has sh*t in their pants.
Your post and the manner in which you post I find extremely offensive... you haven't stepped out of the trailer for a while I take it?1 -
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washlov✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »
really you got 100crowns per subed month wow
why this months not also 1500crowns worth?Edited by washlov on July 16, 2015 5:14PM0 -
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✭Parrotbrain wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »after one year sub
after one year beta test for console
after one year without real content
after one year lag in cyrodiil
after one year paying for consol development
after one year following the carrot on the stick
after one year bad communication and promises
after one year ......
there have to be really much content in IC after this long waiting and for that price!
PC paid one year sub and console not, for what we paid?
1. Sub gave you access to the game, quit whining
2. No you didnt, you played the game, shut up
3. Valid, but many games have done that before an expansion
4. LAg is players being c**ts
5. Refer to #2 and stop crying like a baby
6. Nobody made you play the game.
7. At least you have one valid complaint
Long story short, stop whining like a baby that has sh*t in their pants.
Your post and the manner in which you post I find extremely offensive... you haven't stepped out of the trailer for a while I take it?
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I got 100 per each of 12 months including the partial for March and April 2014 which was free. They also rounded my remaining time up to the next full month.driosketch wrote: »
really you got 100crowns per subed month wow
why this months not also 1500crowns worth?
But you are the one complaining on behalf of PC players who have been here over a year. How do you not know this already?Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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washlov✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »
I got 100 per each of 12 months including the partial for March and April 2014 which was free. They also rounded my remaining time up to the next full month.driosketch wrote: »
really you got 100crowns per subed month wow
why this months not also 1500crowns worth?
But you are the one complaining on behalf of PC players who have been here over a year. How do you not know this already?
why this 12 months are worth less? now you get 1500crowns per month!Edited by washlov on July 16, 2015 5:35PM0 -
Zhoyzu✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Nah, I invested rougly $280 in this game through prepurchase and sub. I'm not paying any more.
I agree with you. Those of us that put up with the lack of updates, bugs, Cyrodil performance, etc. since beta SHOULD be mad. They basically try to sweep that under the run and charge us 1/3 of the price of the game itself for content that's taken over a year to release.
If you think the IC is not going to suffer from the same problems as Cyrodil, you are gullible. And maybe they'll fix a bug here or their, but they'll be too busy trying to sell you then DLC for $20 to really care.
And you'll buy it, because hey, it's only $20 right?
We just gotta wait it out. As soon as the people who pay another 20$ for it realize you cant even experience the content because of the lack of performance from ZoS, will hop on the rage train. I guess people forgot the imperial city is located in the center of Cyrodiil.
This is on top of Zo$ current track record of 2-3 months to fix something. So in essence this DLC wont be out for 4 more months.
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rb2001✭✭✭✭Okay, OP.
You chose to pay for all the things you listed, because that was the price at the time, and you were informed of what you were getting. You agreed to it.
You sound like someone purchasing a dvd at launch and then when the price drops, expecting the consumer to refund you.
You sound like someone who bought a new car and expected GM to pay you back when half of its value was lost via depreciation.
You got what you paid for. New content is of course going to cost more. Be happy that it's helping the game continue to live and have.. more content, which virtually every player here wants.1 -
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✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »
I got 100 per each of 12 months including the partial for March and April 2014 which was free. They also rounded my remaining time up to the next full month.driosketch wrote: »
really you got 100crowns per subed month wow
why this months not also 1500crowns worth?
But you are the one complaining on behalf of PC players who have been here over a year. How do you not know this already?
why this 12 months are worth less? now you get 1500crowns per month!
This is back pay for those who subbed before crowns where a thing. If they had given me the full amount, I would have had 18,500 crowns. Which means you probably would have seen more expensive mounts, more of those limited time deals, and the IC costing more than it does now. Because business needs to make money. Whatever, I'm paying less now than I would have to enjoy the game under the old subscription model.
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✭✭✭✭Okay, OP.
You chose to pay for all the things you listed, because that was the price at the time, and you were informed of what you were getting. You agreed to it.
You sound like someone purchasing a dvd at launch and then when the price drops, expecting the consumer to refund you.
You sound like someone who bought a new car and expected GM to pay you back when half of its value was lost via depreciation.
You got what you paid for. New content is of course going to cost more. Be happy that it's helping the game continue to live and have.. more content, which virtually every player here wants.
I think there's a lot of "too little, too late" going around right now. The release still isn't for another month and half, if it stays on track, so it's impossible to tell what it's like yet. All we have now is ZOS' hype.
And I'll start believe ZOS' hype when we can actually have battles with hundreds of players on screen at once.Daggerfall Covenant
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rb2001✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Okay, OP.
You chose to pay for all the things you listed, because that was the price at the time, and you were informed of what you were getting. You agreed to it.
You sound like someone purchasing a dvd at launch and then when the price drops, expecting the consumer to refund you.
You sound like someone who bought a new car and expected GM to pay you back when half of its value was lost via depreciation.
You got what you paid for. New content is of course going to cost more. Be happy that it's helping the game continue to live and have.. more content, which virtually every player here wants.
I think there's a lot of "too little, too late" going around right now. The release still isn't for another month and half, if it stays on track, so it's impossible to tell what it's like yet. All we have now is ZOS' hype.
And I'll start believe ZOS' hype when we can actually have battles with hundreds of players on screen at once.
Fair enough, but.. we do get to have battles with 100s of players on screen at once, right here in the forums!0 -
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Okay, OP.
You chose to pay for all the things you listed, because that was the price at the time, and you were informed of what you were getting. You agreed to it.
You sound like someone purchasing a dvd at launch and then when the price drops, expecting the consumer to refund you.
You sound like someone who bought a new car and expected GM to pay you back when half of its value was lost via depreciation.
You got what you paid for. New content is of course going to cost more. Be happy that it's helping the game continue to live and have.. more content, which virtually every player here wants.
I think there's a lot of "too little, too late" going around right now. The release still isn't for another month and half, if it stays on track, so it's impossible to tell what it's like yet. All we have now is ZOS' hype.
And I'll start believe ZOS' hype when we can actually have battles with hundreds of players on screen at once.
Fair enough, but.. we do get to have battles with 100s of players on screen at once, right here in the forums!
LOL, touche.
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TheMavShow✭✭I do agree that pc eso-ers have been poorly treated... I don't think content would ever be free. With how much of an influence the crown store has become and how excited they were at the launch of eso console and those numbers... It would take something different to make it up to us year long beta testers. Which hopefully they will with Imperial City.InGame: Maevic
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MrGhosty✭✭✭✭✭OrangeTheCat wrote: »Zershar_Vemod wrote: »I remember when this was supposed to be "free" content last year thanks to P2P...
A lot of us already "paid" for this, and have been waiting since last year when the first Soon began.
you got enough crowns free to buy it so it is free.
so a pc player who paid 10 month sub have to pay 130€ for the dlc?
Right. Lol. $150 in subs != $25 in Crowns.
I think many of the original players feel like they got 'thrown under the bus'.
you got to play the game for a year you got new zones and dungeons etc. then you got enough crowns to buy this dlc. seems like a qq because you spent them on a shiny horse.
Out of curiosity, what new zones? Half of a zone that was rushed in, which no one really plays in because they nuked the xp of the mobs there down to pointless? Or do you mean the secondary versions of dungeons that were already included at launch?
Honestly I didn't expect IC to be free, because I think it's clear by now what ZOS' focus is. I did hope they would have had the decency to put this first content out as a thank you to everyone who stuck with the game. I don't say that because i'm "entitled", I say it because one of the most important resources for any game studio is consumer trust/confidence. ZOS is not looking after this resource as they should be and IC would have been a nice olive branch, particularly for those in PvP who haven't had any content since launch just a buggy/laggy environment that becomes worse by the day.
As it stands, I won't be purchasing this content. I will vote with my wallet.
As for the "well you were given enough crowns to buy this, so it is free" statements, that is very true. Let's look at the landscape at the game when those crowns were distributed though. When the b2p conversion happened, we were already clamoring for more content which we didn't get except more grind experiences. They then start putting out something new, just in the form of mounts and pets. Many people at this point were starved for content and just wanted something, anything that was new. This scenario was not created by random chance, I truly believe it was part of the plan. As I said I didn't expect it to be free, and for those who managed to stave off the lack of content creep and can buy the IC with your crowns I salute you, truly. It doesn't, however, change the fact that IC should have been given as we're all starved for content (excluding console players) and I know for me personally I would have been a lot more likely to continue patronizing ZOS because of it.
When you also look at how one accesses the Imperial City and tries to get around within it dodging other players, it seems strange that ZOS would want you to pay for content which you can be effectively locked out of by the coordination of another faction. I will truly be surprised if we don't hear of players setting up dedicated gank zergs purely to ruin the experience of others who just want some new content. None of this is surprising, but that doesn't make it a good idea or good business."It is a time of strife and unrest. Armies of revenants and dark spirits manifest in every corner of Tamriel. Winters grow colder and crops fail. Mystics are plagued by nightmares and portents of doom."1 -
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✭✭✭✭TheMavShow wrote: »I do agree that pc eso-ers have been poorly treated... I don't think content would ever be free. With how much of an influence the crown store has become and how excited they were at the launch of eso console and those numbers... It would take something different to make it up to us year long beta testers. Which hopefully they will with Imperial City.
I'm dying for a reason get back into ESO. I hope the IC is a great success and adds a lot to the game. I hope the events leading up to the release are excellent. I have just grown extremely skeptical of everything about ZOS over the past year.Daggerfall Covenant
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I really don't understand the outrage. I have been playing MMOs for many years and you always pay for an expansion pack, this DLC is the same thing, you can argue whether or not the content being added is enough to be an expansion but this is what it is.0 -
Aunatar✭✭✭Cherryblossom wrote: »Weird I'm sure IC was promised before it went B2P.
Then again they have promised so many things!
INDEED.
This is not about 20 dollars, everybody was paying 20 dollars/month before B2P and they were happy. And for what I remember ZOS said IC was included into the subscription, before the B2P announcement.
I suggest you to read this article, made in April 2014. I felt I needed to bring a couple of lines to your attention:
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/the-elder-scrolls-online-tamriel-unlimited/artikel/the_elder_scrolls_online,44578,3026853.html
"F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery."
"a commitment to have ongoing content at regular intervals after launch. This type of experience is best paired with a one-time fee per month, as opposed to many smaller payments that would probably add up to more than $14.99/month any way."
"Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days."
THESE were the promises they made when you were paying the sub. The fact B2P happened does NOT delete what they promised and they said new content was being paired with 14.99 dollars/month.Edited by Aunatar on July 16, 2015 6:24PM@Aunatar
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J2JMC✭✭✭✭✭The Imperial City DLC game pack will be coming to PC/Mac on August 31st....before consoles...
I love being a beta tester for consoles...and then having to pay more....
This is the first time I've seen this. In the console world, Sony and Microsoft fight tooth and nail to get games/content released on their systems first. Hell Microsoft doesn't let you develop for their console if it releases on other platforms first. It's one of the silly reasons people use when arguing which console was better. Yet here, getting content first is a bad thing. Interesting. Out of curiosity if console got it first would you be whipping the red-headed step child card? Seems to be a favorite around these parts.
Also, I don't see how you have to pay more in regards to imperial city. You either sub or you pay 2500 crowns. Console players do the same along with having to pay for their respective network services. If anything, they're paying more.
Side note unrelated to the person I quoted, I'll gladly collect my $53.99 back from anyone insisting the game is free to play.Edited by J2JMC on July 16, 2015 6:20PMKnee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD
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Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »TheMavShow wrote: »I do agree that pc eso-ers have been poorly treated... I don't think content would ever be free. With how much of an influence the crown store has become and how excited they were at the launch of eso console and those numbers... It would take something different to make it up to us year long beta testers. Which hopefully they will with Imperial City.
I'm dying for a reason get back into ESO. I hope the IC is a great success and adds a lot to the game. I hope the events leading up to the release are excellent. I have just grown extremely skeptical of everything about ZOS over the past year.
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✭I don't understand what the problem here is. This isn't a surprise it has been said over and over again DLC will be paid content unless you are an ESO+ member. What is wrong with people? L2R issue?
lol we wait for IC over a year and you ask whats wrong with the people
whats wrong with ZOS you should ask
I would but I already know the answer. They lost a handful of key individuals working for the company over the last few months who were likely working on this content. That and a few other delays have caused a delay in content being delivered as planned. You understand you acknowledge that "Gaming experience may change" before you log into the game right?
It sounds like entitlement when you make demands, yet you've been playing the game for free the past few months.
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Yes, they have said DLC would be paid content. What we were trying to put across was that, as Imperial City is core PvP content and contains in-game access restrictions, it should have been included under "free core gameplay updates for everyone" and not "optional paid DLC". Gameplay updates are free, DLC is not - we wanted IC to be a gameplay update, not a DLC.I don't understand what the problem here is. This isn't a surprise it has been said over and over again DLC will be paid content unless you are an ESO+ member. What is wrong with people? L2R issue?
I understand that, but I don't understand why people assumed that. It's added content, not game play fixes. I would have been more surprised if it was offered free to everyone. I have always expected it to be paid DLC.
They're adding a ton of content with IC, including new pvp areas and dungeons...I just don't understand the surprise.0 -
washlov✭✭✭I don't understand what the problem here is. This isn't a surprise it has been said over and over again DLC will be paid content unless you are an ESO+ member. What is wrong with people? L2R issue?
lol we wait for IC over a year and you ask whats wrong with the people
whats wrong with ZOS you should ask
I would but I already know the answer. They lost a handful of key individuals working for the company over the last few months who were likely working on this content. That and a few other delays have caused a delay in content being delivered as planned. You understand you acknowledge that "Gaming experience may change" before you log into the game right?
It sounds like entitlement when you make demands, yet you've been playing the game for free the past few months.
We all knew future DLC content would be free for subscription members and at a cost for the freebies.
who said that? why not be honest and say us this things but advertise other good things and make hope so we paid sub?0 -
Rhakon✭✭✭THIS!Cherryblossom wrote: »Weird I'm sure IC was promised before it went B2P.
Then again they have promised so many things!
INDEED.
This is not about 20 dollars, everybody was paying 20 dollars/month before B2P and they were happy. And for what I remember ZOS said IC was included into the subscription, before the B2P announcement.
I suggest you to read this article, made in April 2014. I felt I needed to bring a couple of lines to your attention:
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/the-elder-scrolls-online-tamriel-unlimited/artikel/the_elder_scrolls_online,44578,3026853.html
"F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery."
"a commitment to have ongoing content at regular intervals after launch. This type of experience is best paired with a one-time fee per month, as opposed to many smaller payments that would probably add up to more than $14.99/month any way."
"Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days."
THESE were the promises they made when you were paying the sub. The fact B2P happened does NOT delete what they promised and they said new content was being paired with 14.99 dollars/month.
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TheEmoVampire✭✭✭Ya know back when this game was planned as a PC exclusive it was, from my understanding, that the Imperial City was supposed to be a bare function of the game. Now that was of course when it was a PC exclusive, shortly after the games release they said "oh BTW we are going back on our word on not putting the game on console, also we will turn our backs on our money makers because console players don't know what we are doing" They literally bit the hand that fed, and now they are making us pay for a feature that honestly should have been in the beta, I mean Seriously its the Imperial City, you'll let us play the background zones but not give us one that had an entire game centered around it, not to mention Skyblivion, a complete remastered version of The Elder Scrolls V: Oblivion, which for those of you who don't know, took place In Cyrodiil and the first town you are in can anyone guess? Yup The Imperial City. And now its a dlc all because they decided to go b2p because they knew that a player on console would not pay for ESO+ PSN OR Gold. So they b2p for a version of the game that was not even supposed to have happened. And to go back on your word once more saying the crown store will be purly cosmetic items, and your making us pay for new zones, which btw come with special gear and armor sets avliable exclusively to ESO+ Member or people who bought the DLC. now I'm not one of those players who think the scrolls are p2w, however making us pay for zones that has specific gear, sets, and even traits that is almost the exact definition of pay to win, all its missing is the over powered advantage, which will come. So serious that's a lot of pretty good muck ups for the first bit of content since like a year ago, remember last years quakecon? How they showed all this kewl stuff off and now its like (a year later) oh btw u have to pay for all of this. Seriously? Let me end this by saying ZOS you need to turn things around this game still has potential so you need to turn things around, because believe it or not the community is dying. I mean I myself haven't played in over a week because Space Engineers is far more interesting than having a 0.1% chance to get a piece of a recipe (that's meant for lower LV characters) out of a day. Seriously completing this game a majority of it is based on luck, and this is not Oblivion where you could just go to sleep load and pop points into it. Most players in the game lose interest because what they set out to do ends up not being possible, completionists can not even keep interest for that reason. And that's why i stopped playing because the type of character I want to have is not possible and based on luck, Bal's Advocate there. The game is dying and I don't see it lasting nearly as long wow did. Speaking of which why don't I actually just start playing wow now? There is no difference now, except the lack of first person view but I'm just saying. This game started off kewl but then oh yea "in order to have a hybrid class you need to, well they aren't possible" " what happened to play the way you want?" "well once everyone started buying cookie cutters from the Gold Coast Trading Company we figured it was redundant.". "so why are you making us pay for core game function, by lore are we not fighting for the White Gold Tower?" "well until we went back on our word like infinity ward did two years ago, we figured its a normal thing besides we can make money off people just buying the game, on top that we can make them pay more if they actually want the full game. As far as The Imperial City goes, we figured oh btw Ep, AD (The *** of TES lore) and DC we going to put in a specific store in the middle of war, where if you want to actually play pvp because we will now be centering pvp around the Imperial City, and at that store you can buy a ticket to get into the Imperial City, even though its a core game function. And even though these new zones will have over powered gear, sets and traits, which are exclusive to people who pay, its not pay to win." well congratulations ZOS you've managed to make a game where you have to pay sixty bucks, on top of an extra 20 per dlc, which are going to be a necessity. Oh wait there are other games like this, only difference is this one screws over the player base. I wonder if they'll eventually add the Pijjic Ambrosia Recipe to the crown store because now, low players dont have a lot of gold, so for a weeks worth of scrolls it would cost around $419. So that alone is a huge problem. BTW where are weapon and shield dyes, or at least shield dyes....seriously there was an entire eso live epsisoe that talked about it and since then nothing. So where are they? Are we gonna have to pay for that update to? You can patch the game with an update that crashes an entire PC everytime you go to bake a sweet roll but yet you cant even let us dye are weapons and shields? Why was the armor dye system even put in then? I don't want to wear black armor with a green light saber, and an energy shield. So when is that coming? And lastly how much more people do you have to lose to actually start caring because obviously this whole turning your back on PC for version of the game that was never intended until last minute and then turn around and make us pay another $20 just to complete the game is just simply not going to work more and more people will realize this and the turn their backs on yall the way yall did us.
P.S. pvpers must be extremely infuriated
P.P.S if I had a mix right now I'd drop it! (lol) that post was amzing2
