Do I quit eso and go to ff14

BlackEar · July 2015

You are not paying to play the game anymore.

What is the difference between quitting and simply stop logging in?

CapnPhoton · July 2015

If I was actually going to pay to play a game I would have stuck with EQ2, which I did for 5 years. It has more content than ESO, FFIV (from what I read about it), and Wow combined. But it seems that the end game for Final Fantasy games both single and MMO are a tedious grind. The feel of the games is acceptable in single player with a limited play time, but they seem to have to compensate at the end for lack of adequate progression on the way up. I really don't know if this is the case for FFIV since I have never played it, but the idea would be consistent with FF games since the first one. Only those that have played it can chime in on that.

Thumbdunked · July 2015

CapnPhoton wrote: »

If I was actually going to pay to play a game I would have stuck with EQ2, which I did for 5 years. It has more content than ESO, FFIV (from what I read about it), and Wow combined. But it seems that the end game for Final Fantasy games both single and MMO are a tedious grind. The feel of the games is acceptable in single player with a limited play time, but they seem to have to compensate at the end for lack of adequate progression on the way up. I really don't know if this is the case for FFIV since I have never played it, but the idea would be consistent with FF games since the first one. Only those that have played it can chime in on that.

The gear grind in FF14ARR is about on par with WoW BC its hard and can sometimes be tedious but when you get a piece you feel like you have earned it rather than just been given it.

Thecapeo · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

Can you play it with ps4 controller or is it difficult

You can play with a controller just fine. In fact, the controller implementation and the UI customization is amazing. You have full on PC level control over your UI, macros, everything. That's one place the game really excels. Some classes are easier to play with a controller than others though. As a Marauder I had two bars needed for fights and I had two hidden bars for mundane stuff and crafting. You have a lot more skills at your disposal than ESO. A Marauder is (or was anyway, haven't played the new patches) the squishier of the tank classes and required constant proper rotation of quite a few cooldowns to stay up against heavy hitting bosses. DPS can get away with less skills usually.

Of course if you play DPS you best be in a Free Company (FF version of a guild) to get groups or you'll be waiting forever in queues to get in dungeons. All dungeons are instanced and DPS are a dime a dozen.

tompbcfc · July 2015

The only thing that puts me off ff14 is the monthly subscription as I already pay for ps+

Sithisvoid · July 2015

I would play FF14 but i can't take all the bunnys and little bird mounts and junk. Stuff like that kills a game for me.

Duragon_Darko · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

I plam on ps4 and I feel the community is completely dead it's impossible to do anything in a group I really enjoy the game but console needs text chat so bad

THIS. As a subscriber to FFXIV, DCUO and ESO, this alone is the one single thing that hasn't made me unsubscribe to the other two games. ESO is by far the better game vs DCUO, and is more involving than FFXIV but communication on both games vs ESO leaves me disappointed and wanting more. Lack of a chat box is ridiculous. Trying to do anything in this "MMO" is a chore, and very tedious. You can't even talk to your league mates if their in another group unless you PSN friend them and send a message.... devs, are you serious? Lack of thought on your part. ESO is the more rewarding game as far as progress vs FFXIV, but DCUO has the most fun at endgame. ESO is the most story and rpg of them both, but you can't really share the experience with anyone. And don't give me the immersion thing. That will bring up another issue entirely. Can't even use our role playing names, just PSN tags. Immersion? Hold up, let me finish this dungeon with "xXlol_headshotXx" and "CoD_sniper2749" and I'll come back and tell you why..... >. >

Duragon_Darko · July 2015

Oh, and being FFXIV sine beta, it's not the combat itself, it's the combat mechanics. Go to U-tube and look up "Titan EX" fight, or "Turn 9" fight. It's like memorizing for the NYC bar exam.

BBSooner · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

The only thing that puts me off ff14 is the monthly subscription as I already pay for ps+

IIRC FFXIV doesn't require PS+ to play on PS4. Playstation waved the requirement of PS+ for their players that want to play.

Edit: I see what you're saying though. You already have PS+, so the discount doesn't apply.

tompbcfc · July 2015

Duragon_Darko wrote: »

tompbcfc wrote: »

I plam on ps4 and I feel the community is completely dead it's impossible to do anything in a group I really enjoy the game but console needs text chat so bad

THIS. As a subscriber to FFXIV, DCUO and ESO, this alone is the one single thing that hasn't made me unsubscribe to the other two games. ESO is by far the better game vs DCUO, and is more involving than FFXIV but communication on both games vs ESO leaves me disappointed and wanting more. Lack of a chat box is ridiculous. Trying to do anything in this "MMO" is a chore, and very tedious. You can't even talk to your league mates if their in another group unless you PSN friend them and send a message.... devs, are you serious? Lack of thought on your part. ESO is the more rewarding game as far as progress vs FFXIV, but DCUO has the most fun at endgame. ESO is the most story and rpg of them both, but you can't really share the experience with anyone. And don't give me the immersion thing. That will bring up another issue entirely. Can't even use our role playing names, just PSN tags. Immersion? Hold up, let me finish this dungeon with "xXlol_headshotXx" and "CoD_sniper2749" and I'll come back and tell you why..... >. >

I've downloaded ff14 dcuo doesn't appeal to me
I have exactly the same attitude as you about eso that's why I want to try something different

tompbcfc · July 2015

I used to play warcraft on the pc years ago I loved all the long hour raids I've heard that ff14 is based practily the same as wow is this true

Lleksu · July 2015

ZOS_MaryB wrote: »

Please do not use this forum to arrange trades or buy and sell in-game items. Posts that do so will be removed. As always, remember to follow the community rules.

That. Is. Hilarious!

tompbcfc · July 2015

BBSooner wrote: »

tompbcfc wrote: »

The only thing that puts me off ff14 is the monthly subscription as I already pay for ps+

IIRC FFXIV doesn't require PS+ to play on PS4. Playstation waved the requirement of PS+ for their players that want to play.

Edit: I see what you're saying though. You already have PS+, so the discount doesn't apply.

I'm not bothered about paying 7 quid a month for ff14 as long as its the only game I play like warcraft was

Duragon_Darko · July 2015

ZOS_MaryB wrote: »

Please do not use this forum to arrange trades or buy and sell in-game items. Posts that do so will be removed. As always, remember to follow the community rules.

I think the majority of the community, in one form or another, would like a comment on the text chat box or lack thereof. If this thread is any indication, we deserve a reply or offical announcement for one. If the company continues to sprun the community as such, ESO (which is a fantastic game) will be stunted of its growth very quickly and shamefully, never really or truly achieving it's entire potential (both as a game, and as a business/money builder). Please, one thing DCUO did very well is listen to its community. Please. I urge you to acknowledge the request of an announcement at the very least. Thank you.

Xsorus · July 2015

Do you like having a 2.5 second GCD on every ability in the game?

if that sounds fun then go play FF14

Thecapeo · July 2015

Duragon_Darko wrote: »

Oh, and being FFXIV sine beta, it's not the combat itself, it's the combat mechanics. Go to U-tube and look up "Titan EX" fight, or "Turn 9" fight. It's like memorizing for the NYC bar exam.

Yup, an exam you fail if you get one answer wrong lol. That's the stuff that started to get to me. My FC was up to turn six when I stopped playing. Too much stress. Our FC was smallish but full of really cool people. We were selective and kicked people who were disruptive. We didn't care how hardcore you were though, just so long as you were nice we didn't care about your level or what you did with your time. That left us without 12 regulars who did push difficulty a bit and, well, some were better than others. I found myself getting really frustrated when the same people would screw up at the same spots repeatedly. Just couldn't help it. And I didn't like getting that frustrated with people that I liked as friends.

Banky71 · July 2015

Gosh do what ever you want gosh!

BBSooner · July 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

Do you like having a 2.5 second GCD on every ability in the game?

if that sounds fun then go play FF14

Conversely, if you play on console and like to be able to type words FFXIV might be a good place for you. Also, if you enjoy regular and worthwhile content updates, difficult content, a group finder, a working and intuitive instance queue, etc.

Krision · July 2015

Good luck with FF.

Give me your stuff?

pls..

FelixTheCatt · July 2015

This just strikes me as more of another complaint thread about whats missing in EsO. OP seems like their talking themselves out of every mmo alternative and just naming what they think is wrong. If you want things added , just say so like everyone else. Asking half-heartedly if you should leave or stay though , I just cant take threads like this very seriously.

tompbcfc · July 2015

FelixTheCatt wrote: »

This just strikes me as more of another complaint thread about whats missing in EsO. OP seems like their talking themselves out of every mmo alternative and just naming what they think is wrong. If you want things added , just say so like everyone else. Asking half-heartedly if you should leave or stay though , I just cant take threads like this very seriously.

I've forwarded it for ages had no reply of zos they don't even read or tackle the problems we want/need answers

Xsorus · July 2015

BBSooner wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Do you like having a 2.5 second GCD on every ability in the game?

if that sounds fun then go play FF14

Conversely, if you play on console and like to be able to type words FFXIV might be a good place for you. Also, if you enjoy regular and worthwhile content updates, difficult content, a group finder, a working and intuitive instance queue, etc.

Having tanked as a 50 paladin in that game, I didn't find it remotely challenging as far as group content is concerned..Its about like any other MMO..a DPS check

Content wise it gets more updates, but then again a 2.5 GCD on every ability means i'll be playing a crappy game through that content.

jeanbulinckxub17_ESO · July 2015

I cannot say no to others games. I play ESO AND other games.

But cannot agree about community, no on PC at least. Maybe that's a console player issue.

Can agree gorup finder is a mess and from PC most groups forms at zone CHAT. That's special true for undauted pledges.
That a point Zenimax can keep a eye on for sure.

Default UI is poor ant that's why any half serious player in PC is using addons. That's another point Zenimax needs to pay attention. Without the addons the game experiente is diminished a lot.

At PC I can have trade guilds, PvP and PvE guilds. I can say my trade guilds are active a lot. If you guild is not interacting maybe it's your lack of (getting in TS (voice chat), chating, interacting, etc) the problem.

For console players... I don't know but I guess without chating tools it's hard to create synergy

BBSooner · July 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Do you like having a 2.5 second GCD on every ability in the game?

if that sounds fun then go play FF14

Conversely, if you play on console and like to be able to type words FFXIV might be a good place for you. Also, if you enjoy regular and worthwhile content updates, difficult content, a group finder, a working and intuitive instance queue, etc.

Having tanked as a 50 paladin in that game, I didn't find it remotely challenging as far as group content is concerned..Its about like any other MMO..a DPS check

Content wise it gets more updates, but then again a 2.5 GCD on every ability means i'll be playing a crappy game through that content.

Are you asserting that FFXIV and ESO have comparable challenges? (In that, ESO has no challenge, and you didn't think FFXIV has any either)

We'll have to agree to disagree here. While XIV has a wide array of difficulty for their content, players spend weeks learning the hardest difficult of the newest Primals and months learning the newest Turns. That simply doesn't happen in ESO.

FelixTheCatt · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

FelixTheCatt wrote: »

This just strikes me as more of another complaint thread about whats missing in EsO. OP seems like their talking themselves out of every mmo alternative and just naming what they think is wrong. If you want things added , just say so like everyone else. Asking half-heartedly if you should leave or stay though , I just cant take threads like this very seriously.

I've forwarded it for ages had no reply of zos they don't even read or tackle the problems we want/need answers

I'd like to believe they will listen. Too many players are or have been saying the same things for anyone to ignore. Course , i'm a glass half full kinda guy. Or at least trying my hardest to be. There's got to be someone at ZoS thats said "Ok theres issues we cant continue to ignore."

That's one major reason I believe we will see text chat in the consoles sooner than later. Added content more often. The next year or so have got to be make or break it for EsO imo. That or they stand to see huge losses in their playerbase. You'd think they have too much invested now to turn back , the loss would have to be disastrous for them otherwise.

eventide03b14a_ESO · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

I'm debating weather to leave elder scrolls an go to ff14 there so many negatives with the game and it's annoying me I don't know weather to stay and hope that they change certain stuff or just give up all together

Yeah but the alternative is FFXIV? Good luck, but no thanks.

Thecapeo · July 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

Having tanked as a 50 paladin in that game, I didn't find it remotely challenging as far as group content is concerned..Its about like any other MMO..a DPS check

Content wise it gets more updates, but then again a 2.5 GCD on every ability means i'll be playing a crappy game through that content.

Ummm.... yeah, no. Being 50 is meaningless. What turn did you get to? Which Extremes did you down? There are almost none that even come close to a DPS check outside of couple phases at most. It's 90% tank and off tank coordination and heal checks. It literally takes groups weeks of practice to down the highest difficulties in that game. I'm thinking you're counting Hard dungeons as end game content. They aren't. They're what you grind to get the gear to do endgame content.

Also, the GCD is on skills only, and is lowered by skill speed. Abilities, which is the vast majority of what you should be using, are on independent CDs. Your rotation should involve constant weaving of skills and abilities. If you were literally sitting there waiting for your GCD to come off you weren't doing it right.

mrskinskull · July 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Why not just wait untill fallout 4 ( a good single player experience with endless possibilities) and star wars battlefront ( pvp of all types and an insane system.

Boom all covered and both come out very shortly

I wouldn't bother with an authentic answer, I think the op is trying to start a troll thread. Why else would you wonder into the ESO forums?

I don't think this guy is going anywhere.

mrskinskull · July 2015

Ff14 is too cutsey. Its kinda like a kids mmo. Elder scrolls story at least grapples with mature themes.

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Soul_of_Odin · July 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

Do you like having a 2.5 second GCD on every ability in the game?

if that sounds fun then go play FF14

Not every skill is part of the 2.5 sec GCD. That's where knowing your rotations and stuff comes into play. And since the ability immediately goes on cool down once it's cast, by the time the animation is done your next attack is ready to go. So the GCD is really a non-issue.