Do I quit eso and go to ff14

dday3six · July 2015

koetty wrote: »

I guess he means Keyboard and Mouse

Yep, KBM is Keyboard and Mouse, just use to shortening since I finger type most posts with my IPAD currently.

tompbcfc · July 2015

dday3six wrote: »

I played FFXIV from beta to a few months ago. I had a blast, but it was often a rocky road as well. FFXIV might have more polish than ESO, but it's not without it's own issues as well. I wouldn't quit ESO just yet, if possible I'd try out FFXIV first. I think they are still doing the 14 day free trials, and you're trial toon carries over to the main game if you get it as well.

Keep in mind that PS4, PS3, and PC all play together so you might need to have a method to access Teamspeak, Vent, Mumble, or some other VOIP to voice chat with PC players. Also if you really like the game consider using a KBM to play, it has a much better UI interaction, examples being more space for skills, and easier targeting. Luckily the game supports

Dradhok wrote: »

You should play them both all the way through or at least into endgame. Both are very good games but offer different experiences. I won't be going back to FFXIV but I enjoyed it.

It's abut too cartoony for me I must say it'll prob make me appreciate eso abit more it does need text chat though or I just need to find a good active guild

kevlarto_ESO · July 2015

It's all up to you, are you still having fun ? taking a break until the next big update happens that's ok to, if you have more fun in the other game that's cool to, do what you want to do and in the end you will be better for it..

Elsonso · July 2015

Arundo wrote: »

FFXIV is a real korean/japanese MMO with pink elves, kitty kittens and such things, silly mounts and silly minions. I dont like those things that much ... I like the darkness ESO offers so ESO will be my main MMO.

This statement resonates with me, which is why I am still playing ESO.

The TES universe, as it turns out, is a somewhat believable place, at least enough so that I can ignore the fact that some things only look right from one direction. It has a world and lore that resonates with me. That is simply not there in other games I have tried.

Other MMOs have either had stories that did not interest me at all, or I wasn't actually aware that there was a story, or the game designers wanted to make a cartoon game. The latter bore me because I cannot believe that they are making a serious game. People joke about flying unicorns that sing and expel rainbows, but some games go out of their way to make these things. Those games are hard pressed to get money from me.

A few games I have seen are just built upon gimmicks. The problem with gimmick games is that once you get past the novelty of the gimmick, the game gets stale. Quite a few games out there, including a couple that are threatening to release soon, seem to be built upon gimmicks. These things just don't resonate with me.

This is why I am sticking with ESO. All ZOS has to do to keep getting money from me is to be an Elder Scrolls game. (Elsewhere, I have another post that discusses that aspect)

ZOS_MaryB · July 2015

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Thumbdunked · July 2015

Ive recently gone back to FF14ARR because i cant communicate in ESO but just to chip in and help you makee a decision ill drop down some pros and cons for each tittle.

FF14ARR
Pros
- Excelent and engaging story quests.
- PvE content is fun and abundant
- Crafting and gathering is indepth and rewarding
- Plenty of activity's to keep you occupied (Triple triad, chocobo racing)
- Player housing
- Guild flagships
- Text Box
- One character can learn every class

Cons
- PvP isnt great (been worked on)
- The Gcd is anoying at early levels

ESO
Pros
- Combat is a nice change
- PvP is fun and dynamic
- Fully voiced Quests
- Classes arent restricted to the holy trinity.

Cons
- PvP is Largely unbalanced
- PvE Content is lacking
- Lack of damage and healing numbers
- Lack of Communication options
- Group finder is a mess
- Cadwells silver/gold

Thats just how i feel about the two some will disagree, download the free trial and give it a shot only you will know if its the game for you.

Thecapeo · July 2015

I played FF for quite a while. I ended up finding the end game quite tedious. Bear in mind the combat is much heavily structured, typical MMO style combat. Unless you're over geared for the content you need a group that knows exactly what they are doing or you will wipe repeatedly. A dps goes down and you can probably recover. A tank or healer goes down and you're done. I mostly tanked myself. Typical tough fights require marking the arena so everyone knows where they should be during certain attacks or phases, where the tanks should be pulling certain mobs, etc. Generally if you're pushing the difficulty one screw up means a wipe because there are a lot of timed one shot mechanics.

Eventually the grind and repetition got to me. All the best gear is either bought or is dropped from turns or trials. For the bought gear you'd need to speedrun the same dungeon all day. For the dropped gear there's one drop to be shared by 8 people after what can be a ridiculously long, tough battle. Then your weapon upgrade required extremely tedious quests and yet more grinding. When I logged on id have close to two hours of mandatory daily stuff to run if you wanted to keep up. The same stuff every single day.

I will say leveling is fun in that game though. Grouping is easy and most of the dungeons are quite fun. It only really started to wear me down once the end game grind started.

Gorthax · July 2015

ZOS_MaryB wrote: »

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Rofl hahahahahahahahaha

Armitas · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

I'm debating weather to leave elder scrolls an go to ff14 there so many negatives with the game and it's annoying me I don't know weather to stay and hope that they change certain stuff or just give up all together

As far as enjoying a game the only opinion that matters is your own. If you enjoy ESO play it. Form your own opinion about whether or not you like the game.

BBSooner · July 2015

You don't really have to quit. ESO has lowered it's standards and doesn't require a sub anymore. Sub to FFXIV and check it out. I personally prefer ESO's combat, but FFXIV has dozens of features that ESO lacks or does poorly that I kind of expect to be in MMOs in this era.

Egg_Death · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

I plam on ps4 and I feel the community is completely dead it's impossible to do anything in a group I really enjoy the game but console needs text chat so bad

tompbcfc wrote: »

I don't like fallout or star wars, elder scrolls is an online game but it doesn't feel like it is guilds are pointless there's no community impossible to find groups for dungeons once your in group you can't communicate with them so doing the dunfeon then becomes a challenge if your with idiots who just run and get all the aggro it could be helped with just 2 things more improved group finder and text chat on console

Absolute nonsense; the first guild I joined always has about 10 people in the primary guild chat every time I log on. And unless you don't have vocal chords I believe voice chat counts as communication. Your PS4 came with a mic, and a cheap pair of voice-capable earbuds works great when plugged into the controller. I had game audio and voice for under 20 bucks until I bought one of the Sony over-the-ear gaming headsets (highly recommended, if only for the ability to adjust game and chat volume separately). Plus, I have no idea how you expect to use text-based chat in a dungeon in the middle of combat. It's nice for non-combat conversations/planning, but it's by no means necessary.

I have always been able to find a group in a reasonable amount of time, but it's fairly straightforward to join the group finder and do some questing until you're matched. I play a healer, though, so I'm probably matched faster than someone playing a more common class.

The groups I've been matched with always have at least one other person with a mic. Some people have them but remain quiet unless they need to talk. I wouldn't complain if they made an option to require a mic in the group finder. Those people who think it's a good idea to sit in a corner casting AOE spells where I can't heal them as effectively really need to hear what I have to say.

tompbcfc · July 2015

ZOS_MaryB wrote: »

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Can you comment on the text chat for Console ?

KingKush · July 2015

The combat is the one thing keeping me from playing FFXIV. I just would not enjoy that "stand still, casting for 5 minutes" type of combat.

Pallmor · July 2015

Asking if you should leave ESO because of the frustrations and go to FFXIV instead is sort of like asking if you should leave the frying pan because of the heat and jump into the fire instead.

renton1x1x1 · July 2015

One thing i've come to realise is that other games suck compared to eso. I was thinking of going back to the tokyo expansion of the secret world which is game i really like.

Suddenly the secret world is clunky, static and generally unresponsive and generally a little bit dull. It does have guns and small group pvp so do this now and again i also do the odd scenerio and some dungeons.

Eso is just plain better on every level even with lack of content and it's sometimes slightly dodgy performance. We've been waitng nearly a year for content and it's nearly here.

So you could go and play FF14 until you get bored at which time imperial city and wrothgar will be live. Also with this a regualr ongoing content release schedule which could you enough time to play ff14 between patches.

tompbcfc · July 2015

Thecapeo wrote: »

I played FF for quite a while. I ended up finding the end game quite tedious. Bear in mind the combat is much heavily structured, typical MMO style combat. Unless you're over geared for the content you need a group that knows exactly what they are doing or you will wipe repeatedly. A dps goes down and you can probably recover. A tank or healer goes down and you're done. I mostly tanked myself. Typical tough fights require marking the arena so everyone knows where they should be during certain attacks or phases, where the tanks should be pulling certain mobs, etc. Generally if you're pushing the difficulty one screw up means a wipe because there are a lot of timed one shot mechanics.

Eventually the grind and repetition got to me. All the best gear is either bought or is dropped from turns or trials. For the bought gear you'd need to speedrun the same dungeon all day. For the dropped gear there's one drop to be shared by 8 people after what can be a ridiculously long, tough battle. Then your weapon upgrade required extremely tedious quests and yet more grinding. When I logged on id have close to two hours of mandatory daily stuff to run if you wanted to keep up. The same stuff every single day.

I will say leveling is fun in that game though. Grouping is easy and most of the dungeons are quite fun. It only really started to wear me down once the end game grind started.

Can you play it with ps4 controller or is it difficult

GreySix · July 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

Why not just wait untill fallout 4 ( a good single player experience with endless possibilities) and star wars battlefront ( pvp of all types and an insane system.

... and both will be available on PC.

Last time I really enjoyed PvP was on the original Star Wars Battlefront.

Thumbdunked · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

Thecapeo wrote: »

I played FF for quite a while. I ended up finding the end game quite tedious. Bear in mind the combat is much heavily structured, typical MMO style combat. Unless you're over geared for the content you need a group that knows exactly what they are doing or you will wipe repeatedly. A dps goes down and you can probably recover. A tank or healer goes down and you're done. I mostly tanked myself. Typical tough fights require marking the arena so everyone knows where they should be during certain attacks or phases, where the tanks should be pulling certain mobs, etc. Generally if you're pushing the difficulty one screw up means a wipe because there are a lot of timed one shot mechanics.

Eventually the grind and repetition got to me. All the best gear is either bought or is dropped from turns or trials. For the bought gear you'd need to speedrun the same dungeon all day. For the dropped gear there's one drop to be shared by 8 people after what can be a ridiculously long, tough battle. Then your weapon upgrade required extremely tedious quests and yet more grinding. When I logged on id have close to two hours of mandatory daily stuff to run if you wanted to keep up. The same stuff every single day.

I will say leveling is fun in that game though. Grouping is easy and most of the dungeons are quite fun. It only really started to wear me down once the end game grind started.

Can you play it with ps4 controller or is it difficult

Yes you can play it with the ps4 controler and no its not difficult.

BBSooner · July 2015

Pallmor wrote: »

Asking if you should leave ESO because of the frustrations and go to FFXIV instead is sort of like asking if you should leave the frying pan because of the heat and jump into the fire instead.

Exactly! If you mean it's not like that ... at all.

LariahHunding · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

Thecapeo wrote: »

I played FF for quite a while. I ended up finding the end game quite tedious. Bear in mind the combat is much heavily structured, typical MMO style combat. Unless you're over geared for the content you need a group that knows exactly what they are doing or you will wipe repeatedly. A dps goes down and you can probably recover. A tank or healer goes down and you're done. I mostly tanked myself. Typical tough fights require marking the arena so everyone knows where they should be during certain attacks or phases, where the tanks should be pulling certain mobs, etc. Generally if you're pushing the difficulty one screw up means a wipe because there are a lot of timed one shot mechanics.

Eventually the grind and repetition got to me. All the best gear is either bought or is dropped from turns or trials. For the bought gear you'd need to speedrun the same dungeon all day. For the dropped gear there's one drop to be shared by 8 people after what can be a ridiculously long, tough battle. Then your weapon upgrade required extremely tedious quests and yet more grinding. When I logged on id have close to two hours of mandatory daily stuff to run if you wanted to keep up. The same stuff every single day.

I will say leveling is fun in that game though. Grouping is easy and most of the dungeons are quite fun. It only really started to wear me down once the end game grind started.

Can you play it with ps4 controller or is it difficult

Tried it out on a PS4, no problems with the controller for me.

BBSooner · July 2015

GreySix wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Why not just wait untill fallout 4 ( a good single player experience with endless possibilities) and star wars battlefront ( pvp of all types and an insane system.

... and both will be available on PC.

Last time I really enjoyed PvP was on the original Star Wars Battlefront.

I played the crap out of the original Star Wars Battlefront. Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast was also really fun pvp, for me at least.

Endurance · July 2015

tompbcfc wrote: »

I'm debating weather to leave elder scrolls an go to ff14 there so many negatives with the game and it's annoying me I don't know weather to stay and hope that they change certain stuff or just give up all together

Just wait till august because Wildstar is going F2P.. FFXIV isnt all that good either.. nothing but dungeon queues, repetitive tomb/SB farming, and the same old boring people running around town 10 hours a day

Steelshiv · July 2015

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Personally I cant leave eso because no other recent game has the 3 way warfare and this is what Iook for.[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Profanity]

This is the only reason I stay.

drogon1 · July 2015

Played FFXIV for a couple of months, then returned to ESO. Was fun for about that long for me. The problem for me was gameplay. FFXIV's gameplay felt like more of the same (I played WoW many years): tab-targeting, mash 2 buttons, move on to next mob.

ESO's gameplay feels more dynamic. Positioning, dodge and block seem more important - and thus overall active defense is part and parcel of the gameplay. I also find ESO gameplay more responsive, and - if you will - visceral.

FFXIV pvp and questing also felt more of the same to me, but I suppose YMMV.

If the hype of FFXIV's new xpac reaches a certain crescendo, I may return to check it out, but I'm not feeling it yet.

Thumbdunked · July 2015

Steelshiv wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Personally I cant leave eso because no other recent game has the 3 way warfare and this is what Iook for.[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Profanity]

This is the only reason I stay.

IIRC FF14ARR also has 3 faction pvp.

Mettaricana · July 2015

ff cons

no mega server
group finder in ff14 is still a mess
run out of quests after first playthrough as a single class
cool downs.
really no build diversity. everyone kinda uses the same exact combo.
extremely elitist endgame.

eso cons

vet leveling
looooooonnnng delays between content releases
pvp is 90 mins of horse riding before getting zerged rinse and repeat.
no crafting or learning dropped sets or styles. just limited to the stuff we have that becomes obsolete when we hit endgame.
pve is no challenge at all can play 1-50 without a single death. needs enemies to be less predictable and more intelligent.

tompbcfc · July 2015

The early stages seem boring

Endurance wrote: »

tompbcfc wrote: »

I'm debating weather to leave elder scrolls an go to ff14 there so many negatives with the game and it's annoying me I don't know weather to stay and hope that they change certain stuff or just give up all together

Just wait till august because Wildstar is going F2P.. FFXIV isnt all that good either.. nothing but dungeon queues, repetitive tomb/SB farming, and the same old boring people running around town 10 hours a day

I don't play pc games

TequilaFire · July 2015

Might want to check into the reason you have problems playing with a group.
Grouping and joining a Guild has been much easier for me on PS4.
Changing games may not help with the wrong attitude.

Pallmor · July 2015

BBSooner wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Asking if you should leave ESO because of the frustrations and go to FFXIV instead is sort of like asking if you should leave the frying pan because of the heat and jump into the fire instead.

Exactly! If you mean it's not like that ... at all.

I agree with the opposite of what you said completely.

BBSooner · July 2015

Pallmor wrote: »

BBSooner wrote: »

Pallmor wrote: »

Asking if you should leave ESO because of the frustrations and go to FFXIV instead is sort of like asking if you should leave the frying pan because of the heat and jump into the fire instead.

Exactly! If you mean it's not like that ... at all.

I agree with the opposite of what you said completely.

I'm glad we're on the same page on misused similes.