Anyone else waiting for ESO To take the path of WoW (not become WoW 2)

Noomfy-Mop · June 2015

And when I say "take the path of WoW" I mean release DLC that introduces new races, new abilities, new questing areas AANND (most importantly

) increase the level cap by 10.
Personally I think several things on the matter

- if they're going to get rid of the VR system, like I keep reading that they will be, then level cap will naturally increase to make up for the "lost" lvls.

- unless they introduce the Daedra as a playable race then I'm not too sure how they can introduce more races. And if they DID introduce a new race they'd technically have to "kill them off", so to speak, before the oblivion series being that ESO is a prequel. Though I think playing as a deadra would be pretty awesome.

- what new area would the introduce? I know it's a huge place that I'll probably never see all of but they've already got all the regions of Tamriel. Where can they expand to.

From what I read and heard in oblivion and skyrim there's no lore or anything mentioning the discovery of new lands or races in the past (besides the ones already in game).
I'm really enjoying this game so far but am wondering how they'll keep us playing in 12 months or so time.. It seems to me that they've givin us everything right from the get go and have backed themselves into a corner when it comes to future expansion.

Gidorick · June 2015

According to this map there are 16 or so planned/named/outlines areas, likely another dozen once they are splitting up the rest of Tamriel. lets just say a total of 26 more zones. Release 2 a year, that's 13 years. Then there are all the Daedric Realms.

ZOS has PLENTY to keep them busy.

Fartman · June 2015

You seriously know this much lore about a video game? I've played all the Elder Scrolls games and I know I run around with a sword or whatever and kill stuff... I dunno how people get this in to a game. They can expand... Look at what FFXIV just released... and why does everyone compare MMORPG's to WoW? It didn't start the genre. I wish games like this didn't have so much lore, because it would be easier to add stuff in, because people like me wouldn't even know the difference, they'd just enjoy the game for what it is. Not get caught up in some make believe World, and say stuff can't be in a made up World. because in that made up world, this made up thing didn't exist then... I've ran in to that on this board when discussing a few things, and it's quite annoying.

AnAngryGinger · June 2015

Because video games are a modern form of art.

Anhedonie · June 2015

no to raising level caps. Just...no. We have that CP system already.

jircris11 · June 2015

i don't see anymore playable races being added seeing how all the ones from past TES games are here already. I could see new maps and such, no lvl increase maybe some new armors and crafts though.

Sausage · June 2015

If they ever want to fill up the rest of the Tamriel, I think expansion are a must. One expansion, one zone per faction, thats 3 zone per expansion. So considering how much work there is still to do, expansion might be coming.

Gidorick · June 2015

jircris11 wrote: »

i don't see anymore playable races being added seeing how all the ones from past TES games are here already. I could see new maps and such, no lvl increase maybe some new armors and crafts though.

I would LOVE to see other playable races. I think if ESO lasts long enough we will see some added. More specifically though, I would like to see variations in the races that we have. Both Khajiit and Argonian are WAY underrepresented in ESO (and Elder Scrolls as a whole.) I have made threads about these two beast races here:

Orcs could have additional options also to encompass the Wood, Iron, and Tribal Orc racial differences.

Kazzy56 · June 2015

PS4 EU

Whats WoW?

Have a great Tamriel day all.

Noomfy-Mop · June 2015

@Fartman
If your talking to me I don't really know THAT much. I'm kinda similar to you. I've played through oblivion and skyrim, didnt really read any books through out, skipped as many convos as I could. I still picked up a few things but am hardly an elder scrolls scholar.

I think people compare modern mmorpg's with WoW because WoW was/is so huge and so many people have at least had a go of it that it's easier to compare things to WoW as opposed to LoTR online of other less known but equally good mmorpg's.

I'm reading a lot of people are against increasing lvl cap.. Why's that??
I think new armors etc. would be a good idea as @jircris11 mentioned but I do think that increasing lvl cap would be "palatable" for the masses and someone who's lvl 50 might not like or want new armor.
I'm seeing a lot of good ideas however I do think increasing lvl cap would be the easiest option for them since they don't need to introduce new races and explain how they all of a sudden came to being or how they discovered new lands etc.

I'm really keen to see what they do and am excited for ESOs future

Blutengel · June 2015

I say no to level cap increase for the moment. It just seems way to soon. ( I know I know year old game) the game is still very fresh and we still need our promised fixes and DLCs before something major like cap increase. Don't you want a huge hunk of content to take you past those new levels or do you want grind the same old content?

Storm_knight22 · June 2015

Potential playable races:

Possibly.
Snow elves for the DC
Imga for the Dominion
Lilmothitt for the pact

Unlikely candidates;
Centaurs
goblins
lamiae
Maomer

Not happening:
Ayleids
Sload
Dwemer
Dovah
Dremora and a few others

The rest of Tamriel still needs to be added I'm hoping to encounter the aforementioned centaurs somewhere in Hammerfell hiding out from the war of Three Banners.

After Tamriel is completed there are the daedric realms, and perhaps other islands and continents of Nirn. There have already been several references to Thras and Pyanadonea I actually kind of expect both of these. Then there is of course mysterious Akavir, and all that it brings (more potentially playable races: the Monkey People, The Ka po tun, the Tsaesci)

At any rate we're speculating on things that are years away at best. For the time being though I would most like to see small additions pole arms the animations of which are already in game (as seen in The Argonian house in the Hollow city and in one of the cities of Auridon)

Most of all though I want spellcrafting. It is impossible to overstate its importance for any Elder scrolls game. I want to send forth an army of conjured beasts to do my bidding I want to throw lighting from my fists (without using an ultimate) I want an AoE taunt!

Rinmaethodain · June 2015

We need MOAR lvls. the first 50 lvls were piece of cake. Next 14 VR? that was 1 VR per day still wayyyyyyy tooo EASY

If they are going to scrap VR i hope they will replace them at least with 14 regular lvls making lvl cap at 63. At that point they could increase it to 70 just to make it round number or to lvl71 so people can have nice round number of Attribute points

LVLs are gained in this game so easy ESO could really use more of them.

If after removing VR from ESO they will go back to lvl50 cap its going to be most pathetic move i can imagine. Worst thing that could happen to ESO.

Sithisvoid · June 2015

Fartman wrote: »

You seriously know this much lore about a video game? I've played all the Elder Scrolls games and I know I run around with a sword or whatever and kill stuff... I dunno how people get this in to a game. They can expand... Look at what FFXIV just released... and why does everyone compare MMORPG's to WoW? It didn't start the genre. I wish games like this didn't have so much lore, because it would be easier to add stuff in, because people like me wouldn't even know the difference, they'd just enjoy the game for what it is. Not get caught up in some make believe World, and say stuff can't be in a made up World. because in that made up world, this made up thing didn't exist then... I've ran in to that on this board when discussing a few things, and it's quite annoying.

There are all these fancy things in the game, with a bunch of pieces of paper bound together that contain all sorts of information in printed word form. I think they are called BOOKS. You should check them out sometime for lore and lore related material

The_Sadist · June 2015

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Potential playable races:

Possibly.
Snow elves

Annd you've lost me.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Falmer
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Snow_Elf

I'm all for new zones, but I don't think new races will be a thing.

Rev Rielle · June 2015

The single worst thing they can do is raise the level cap in the future. The Champion Point system will take care of that; that is what they said it was designed to do (as well as replace the VR system which is on-going).

Trayzard · June 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

?????????? Where did you get that map? It looks like fanmade.

Trayzard · June 2015

Trayzardb16_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

@Gidorick ?????????? Where did you get that map? It looks like fanmade.

demendred · June 2015

Play ff14 if you want a 'wow experience'.

murmur · June 2015

Trayzardb16_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

?????????? Where did you get that map? It looks like fanmade.

I'm not 100% sure but it looks like map from beta...

FelixTheCatt · June 2015

People compare every mmorpg to WoW because whether you admit it or not , it is and always will be measure of how successful a game in this genre is. No , its not the first obviously , but it is the most popular and the most successful ever. That's not opinion either. Asking why everyone compares games like this to WoW is like asking why people compare fps'ers to COD.

The_Sadist · June 2015

It seems a lot of people are posting without reading the actual thread. The OP never stated s/he wants the game to become like WoW, s/he is just keen for expansions and whatnot.

Rosveen · June 2015

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Potential playable races:

Possibly.
Snow elves for the DC
Imga for the Dominion
Lilmothitt for the pact

Falmer are devolved goblin-like creatures in the Second Era.
Imga should have already appeared, so if not for fleeting and meaningless references, they'd be as good as retconned.
Lilmothiit are extinct. If some still remain, not enough to suddenly appear all over Tamriel.

Maormer, Dremora, goblins and the Akaviri all are viable, but they don't fit at all into the existing story, so unless the Akaviri have their own starting zones in Akavir, I don't see it happening. Maormer would perhaps be the easiest to accommodate. Personally I don't think we'll ever see new playable races.

rynth · June 2015

I think I'd be nice if they offered an neutral type faction for sea elves other races see them as evil, but perhaps they have a different story to tell themselves. Perhaps add some new areas that are controlled by sea elves add in traveling by ship or something along those lines, a new racial crafting motif say more of a corsairs kind of look, and add their own small story line doesn't have to be as long as the one now but something that can give you depth into sea elves life/faction. Perhaps there is a movement to agree to a peace agreement with the other three racial factions because the sea elves are effected by the anchors too. That way at the end story line it can tie into cold harbor and Caldwell

Gidorick · June 2015

I believe it was map from Beta @db16_ESO. Now the exact origin.... I'm not really sure.

Gidorick · June 2015

Why no Sload @Jared_lindsey86_ESO ???

Gidorick wrote: »

This isn't "Creating" a race (I think Nirn has plenty to choose from!) but I really like the idea of a playable Sload

Gidorick wrote: »

The Coral Kingdom: This could be a single release DLC expansion giving players the partially sunken nation of Thras between Tamriel and Yokuda, and a new playable race, the Sload and could introduce underwater content to ESO, if it's not already in ESO by this point. Since the Sload detest adventure the playable Sloads would have to be considered Sload outcasts and the story would have to reflect that.

Players playing Sloads would have to embrace that they are shunned from their society.

Considering that Sloads are very studious, are powerful magicians and, well... slugs. I think the following Racial skillset would be appropriate.

Their Racial Skills would be something like:
Quick Study: 10% Decrease to all crafting research and Riding Skill cool-downs

Stalwart Resolve: Increase poison resistance by 5%/10%/15%

Magicka Adept: Increase Max Magica by 2%/4%/6%

Intuitive Reflexes: Increase Critical Chance by 6%/8%/10%

I would LOVE for Centaurs to be in the game. It's been a LONG while since we've seen them....

The same goes for Minotaurs:

Gidorick · June 2015

Rev Rielle wrote: »

The single worst thing they can do is raise the level cap in the future. The Champion Point system will take care of that; that is what they said it was designed to do (as well as replace the VR system which is on-going).

You don't think people will get bored of just grinding CPs?

Storm_knight22 · June 2015

Rosveen wrote: »

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Potential playable races:

Possibly.
Snow elves for the DC
Imga for the Dominion
Lilmothitt for the pact

Falmer are devolved goblin-like creatures in the Second Era.
Imga should have already appeared, so if not for fleeting and meaningless references, they'd be as good as retconned.
Lilmothiit are extinct. If some still remain, not enough to suddenly appear all over Tamriel.

Maormer, Dremora, goblins and the Akaviri all are viable, but they don't fit at all into the existing story, so unless the Akaviri have their own starting zones in Akavir, I don't see it happening. Maormer would perhaps be the easiest to accommodate. Personally I don't think we'll ever see new playable races.

Not all snow elves accepted the dwarves offer of asylum. Some like Gelebor survived in pocket communities up until the fourth era at least. Many more could still be extant in the second. Lilmothiit are speculated to be extinct but since inner Black Marsh has never been explored by non-aboriginal habitants they could still be there. Even at the Septim empire's height it was unknown whether or not Black Marsh accepted Imperial rule.

I'll reiterate though any such additions are years away and probably unplanned at present.

Rinmaethodain · June 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Rev Rielle wrote: »

The single worst thing they can do is raise the level cap in the future. The Champion Point system will take care of that; that is what they said it was designed to do (as well as replace the VR system which is on-going).

You don't think people will get bored of just grinding CPs?

People get bored of everything.

But what is the worst part? Just because only they get bored with it, they demand to take it away from EVERY SINGLE PLAYER even those who enjoy it.

If some people dont like lvling up, then why the hell they care for it so much they want it removed?

Normal reaction -> Player X,Y,Z doesent like doing thing A to get prize B -> they just dont do it, enjoy game in different way and dont bother with things A

Sick, selfish and close minded reaction -> Player X,Y,Z doesent like doing thing A to get prize B -> they dont do it (or maybe secretly they do it from unknown motives), they maybe enjoy game in different way but at the same time they DEMAND devs to remove thing A for EVERY SINGLE PLAYER so only X, Y, Z is happy that if they dont like thing A then everyone wont be ever able to do thing A

You dont like exp? Dont like levels? Then dont pay attention to them and do your buissnes and dont complain to anyone trying to get them removed.

Grinding lvls costs time and gives set reward. People who dont want to grind lvls can do something else saving time and getting other rewards. If they demand "No more lvls" they are trying to FORCE everyone to bend and adapt only one playstyle, the playstyle of 'no more lvl complainers' or 'no more vet ranks complainers'.

How is it fairs when some players are trying to force everyone to play the game just like they do it?

Leave the lvls alone, let people choose. They want to grind? let them grind. They dont want to? Leave them be too.

Rosveen · June 2015

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Potential playable races:

Possibly.
Snow elves for the DC
Imga for the Dominion
Lilmothitt for the pact

Falmer are devolved goblin-like creatures in the Second Era.
Imga should have already appeared, so if not for fleeting and meaningless references, they'd be as good as retconned.
Lilmothiit are extinct. If some still remain, not enough to suddenly appear all over Tamriel.

Maormer, Dremora, goblins and the Akaviri all are viable, but they don't fit at all into the existing story, so unless the Akaviri have their own starting zones in Akavir, I don't see it happening. Maormer would perhaps be the easiest to accommodate. Personally I don't think we'll ever see new playable races.

Not all snow elves accepted the dwarves offer of asylum. Some like Gelebor survived in pocket communities up until the fourth era at least. Many more could still be extant in the second. Lilmothiit are speculated to be extinct but since inner Black Marsh has never been explored by non-aboriginal habitants they could still be there. Even at the Septim empire's height it was unknown whether or not Black Marsh accepted Imperial rule.

I'll reiterate though any such additions are years away and probably unplanned at present.

Hidden pockets. Unexplored communities. Keyword: hidden. You can't have thousands of them walking freely all over Tamriel. The remaining Falmer are even rarer than Ayleids. I'd be fine with Kothringi who can pass for strangely colored humans, maybe even Lilmothiit, depending on how it's resolved, but I'd really prefer to avoid it altogether.

@Gidorick Sload don't look as closely humanoid as you depicted. I don't think it's physically viable for them to be a playable race. Can they even ride horses?

AngryNord · June 2015

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Potential playable races:

Possibly.
Snow elves for the DC
Imga for the Dominion
Lilmothitt for the pact

The only two remaining Snow Elves live in an underground cave complex in Skyrim. I'm kinda baffled as to how you'll find them 1) possible as a playable race and 2) a part of DC