Is there any profanity filter for VOIOP?

NewBlacksmurf · June 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

Im Australian and alot of our slang we say is considered highly inappropriate to other countries.
So not sure how this will work but i guess anyone that does not like the way we talk can just mute us.

Not sure if there is any other solution.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Care to way in and let us know how this will work.
Bad enough i have to heavily revise everything i post here.
Especially since one more wrong word and im banned off the forums.
We swear and cuss like troopers in every other game but normally we are on oceanic servers so we play with other Aussies.

So you can see why we are a tad worried lol.

I'm not trying to speak on behalf of ZOS but usually the way this works is the console will drive this. If a player wants to report another player it's done outside of the game so ZOS can't intervene

Most ppl aren't going to try and have you banned tho by he'll just mute or avoid you
(That's my limited perspective on the matter)

Thats fine with me yet to be a problem just this time it's different because of the mega server.

You'll be fine

NewBlacksmurf · June 2015

TequilaFire wrote: »

I find this so funny, have you guys/gals never seen PC zone chat? lol

This....ppl only care if you're rude to them.
It's really a non-issue

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

I have a friend currently on a 2 week timeout for swearing on Xbox one..

He pretty much only plays Battlefield 4.. Which is kind of a sewer if you use ingame chat.

We normally use Party chat, but we were using ingame chat for a reason.

He was reported by several people over 3 hours (it was extreme cartoon levels of swearing when he died).

The fun forum to read is the one where people go to protest suspensions and banning. It is like traffic court. People never seem to know that using illegal Russian hacked copies of games or hacking their gamerscore might be somthing they could get in trouble for.

No sir, I did not know the Stop sign I ran over was there. No sir, I have been driving to work on that sidewalk for 10 years.

My friend absentmindedly swore 2x in his written appeal

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NewBlacksmurf · June 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I have a friend currently on a 2 week timeout for swearing on Xbox one..

He pretty much only plays Battlefield 4.. Which is kind of a sewer if you use ingame chat.

We normally use Party chat, but we were using ingame chat for a reason.

He was reported by several people over 3 hours (it was extreme cartoon levels of swearing when he died).

The fun forum to read is the one where people go to protest suspensions and banning. It is like traffic court. People never seem to know that using illegal Russian hacked copies of games or hacking their gamerscore might be somthing they could get in trouble for.

No sir, I did not know the Stop sign I ran over was there. No sir, I have been driving to work on that sidewalk for 10 years.

My friend absentmindedly swore 2x in his written appeal .

I'm dying here. It reminds me of the support chat sessions when ppl try to plead their case to me. I'm like hey....follow the rules and go appeal.

Funny stuff

nastuug · June 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

I find this so funny, have you guys/gals never seen PC zone chat? lol

This....ppl only care if you're rude to them.
It's really a non-issue

While I support text chat, this is totally true. It's a damned war zone in chat no matter where you go, heh.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

burdocklightbringercub18_ESO wrote: »

So if you get someone on there who is constantly swearing, it gets static-ed out? Or is there no way to police this?

wow....just wow.

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

I have a friend currently on a 2 week timeout for swearing on Xbox one..

He pretty much only plays Battlefield 4.. Which is kind of a sewer if you use ingame chat.

We normally use Party chat, but we were using ingame chat for a reason.

He was reported by several people over 3 hours (it was extreme cartoon levels of swearing when he died).

The fun forum to read is the one where people go to protest suspensions and banning. It is like traffic court. People never seem to know that using illegal Russian hacked copies of games or hacking their gamerscore might be somthing they could get in trouble for.

No sir, I did not know the Stop sign I ran over was there. No sir, I have been driving to work on that sidewalk for 10 years.

My friend absentmindedly swore 2x in his written appeal .

I'm dying here. It reminds me of the support chat sessions when ppl try to plead their case to me. I'm like hey....follow the rules and go appeal.

Funny stuff

Yeah, people know they did something bad. My friend's defense was it is Battlefield and lots of people swear... but really he swears above and beyond normal levels. He's fine with it. It is like getting caught speeding. He does it 110 times and gets caught once.

The scary part is he's been getting down-voted for a while kinda invisibly for it so his rating on his gamercard is starting to get iffy. He's scared of losing his "good" rating... because if the scumbags we play with all the time are the good people he doesn't wanna see /get matched the people who got voted off the island ha ha ha.

LadyDestiny · June 2015

Peoples cell phones ringing and text messages going off in the mic.....O_o

nastuug · June 2015

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Peoples cell phones ringing and text messages going off in the mic.....O_o

That should be the least of your worries in voice chat. =P

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

My favorite, is the whole family and 35 neighbors/friends over to watch someone play games and running commentary / suggestions... by all of them.

Naivefanboi · June 2015

lsneakl wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

On console. No filter but if you're on Xbox one there is a very simple report feature found in the game profile. Because ZOS used the gamertag it pulls right up.

You can only hear ppl that are very close by so it's no issue as the volume diminishes as you or they get further away.

If you're on PS4 no idea. Good luck

Report that never does anything and proximity if it's so small how will this amazing voice chat you keep talking about work?

Basically your stuck having to not use any chat if you want to avoid the sound of swear words coming across your TV on occasion. I highly doubt that anything will come of someone who swears in the game as voice based profanity and insults are impossible to confirm for a company and part of the reason text based chat is nice since there is an actual transcript.

I know for a fact in college one of my friends would be that annoying guy not outright swearing but making dumb noises and all sorts of issues and never once was he ever even warned by Microsoft let alone disciplined.

Also with proximity voice I already know people are going to chase people around to harass them and nothing will be done. Until Xbox records all voice in transcripts nothing can really be done unless the person 100% of the time is being a moron, oh and by the way no one is going to let them record or transcript everything said to their kinnect or mic.

You can simoly leave the invgame chat channel
If your already in a psn party that will overide the voice coms.least it did in beta .(yes console

SeptimusDova · June 2015

A dark Seducer and A female redguard with a lava whip make me think of ... hot.. bad... Thoughts.. yeah ... thoughts

nastuug · June 2015

SeptimusDova wrote: »

A dark Seducer and A female redguard with a lava whip make me think of ... hot.. bad... Thoughts.. yeah ... thoughts

Lol. Don't go turning this into a NSFW thread.

Darlgon · June 2015

TequilaFire wrote: »

I find this so funny, have you guys/gals never seen PC zone chat? lol

Thats the problem. PC zone chat has an optional profanity filter, which can remove it from the stream.

BTW guys, profanity also can be seen as a violation of ZoS Code of Conduct, leading to game ban. Of course... ZoS cant say if any action were taken. And, if the console reporting tool sucks like the PC version, where you have to target the player to report them.. no chance anything will be done.

SirAndy · June 2015

Well, since i work in the audio and video fingerprinting space, i can tell you that this is certainly possible.

I can get you a match on a 10 second music sample against a database of 120,000 reference songs within less than 10ms.

If you fingerprinted every swear word in the English language, your reference set would still be much less than 120,000 and your query would be much shorter as well so performance could easily be in the sub 1ms range for detecting swear words.

That's fast enough to blank them out in a live stream like TeamSpeak etc ...

Naivefanboi · June 2015

Darlgon wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

I find this so funny, have you guys/gals never seen PC zone chat? lol

Thats the problem. PC zone chat has an optional profanity filter, which can remove it from the stream.

BTW guys, profanity also can be seen as a violation of ZoS Code of Conduct, leading to game ban. Of course... ZoS cant say if any action were taken. And, if the console reporting tool sucks like the PC version, where you have to target the player to report them.. no chance anything will be done.

If people reeally wanna report every little swear they hear, the share feature would work ideal for that, video and aufio evidence, psn/gamertag. ..lol have fun reporting ill be playin

SeptimusDova · June 2015

In some states in the United States, third party recording without a warrant is a no go. You as an individual can waive a right. But you cannot waive a state right, or a state law. In these places the game industry really cannot take action. Not sure on Interstate law. I could ask a former co worker on that. EULA and TOS does not supersede or take place of laws.So if such recording takes place in those no go States it could be an issue for Game companies. It may be their server and IP yes. But the law makes no distinction and offers no shelter based on those terms. Pen trap and trace registers, voice registers and VOIP registers fall under that category. Section702a ( one interstate and international example)requires warrants, and or a notification process.

State examples below

AZ http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03005.htm
CO http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/colorado/
CT http://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/pub/chap925.htm#Sec52-570d.htm
DE http://www.delcode.delaware.gov/title11/c005/sc07/index.shtml specifically section 1335
HI http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0803/HRS_0803-0042.htm
MI http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(wd3213tauihwezyk1nos22cx))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-539c
MN https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statutes/?id=626A
TX http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CP/htm/CP.123.htm
OR ORS §§ 133.721 -133.739

On consent. Consent is not a one time check the box to play the game sort of thing relating to these laws. Consent has a specific meaning and process. Each call/session/transaction requires notification to the recorded party. At the beginning of the recording. Some states do not require consent on two party communications VA is one example. But under federal law all three party communications must involve consent from all parties. In the event of exigent circumstances three party communications can be recorded for law enforcement purposes or under the color of law.

Telecommunications Comapnies have exceptions under the law for CALEA compliance and in performance of mantaince duties and to protect their rights and interests a telecom is registered FCC entity and in adherence to FCC Part 68

If harassment and wrong doing are present actions can be taken but corporations are not barristers,magistrates or law enforcement.

That is the flip side of the coin. All it takes is that ONE gamer who decides that their profanity ban was the last straw in one of these states who decides to file a civil suit. The preponderance of evidence will fall on the corporation.The methods used are subject to scrutiny of law.

yodased · June 2015

Well the game is rated Mature, so that is their way out really. If you don't want to hear adult language don't play an adult game.

SirAndy · June 2015

SeptimusDova wrote: »

In some states in the United States, third party recording without a warrant is a no go.

@SeptimusDova
Except, if you do fingerprinting on a live audio stream, you actually don't record any audio at all. You create a fingerprint that represents a small slice of audio. That fingerprint is then compared to a set of reference fingerprints.

No audio is ever recorded nor are any of the query fingerprints ever saved.

nastuug · June 2015

yodased wrote: »

Well the game is rated Mature, so that is their way out really. If you don't want to hear adult language don't play an adult game.

Pretty much this. That's the whole point of rating games/movies...

DaveMoeDee · June 2015

I'd be more concerned about panhandling players following me around until I give them gold to stop annoying me with nonsense noise.

lsneakl · June 2015

nastuug wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Well the game is rated Mature, so that is their way out really. If you don't want to hear adult language don't play an adult game.

Pretty much this. That's the whole point of rating games/movies...

Actually....
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#13a

The online voice or text chat has NO bearing on the rating of a game. Mature rating has 0 things to do with what players say/do and 100% to do with game content.

nastuug · June 2015

lsneakl wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Well the game is rated Mature, so that is their way out really. If you don't want to hear adult language don't play an adult game.

Pretty much this. That's the whole point of rating games/movies...

Actually....
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#13a

The online voice or text chat has NO bearing on the rating of a game. Mature rating has 0 things to do with what players say/do and 100% to do with game content.

"MATURE

Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language." -- Source: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

So what's your point?

NewBlacksmurf · June 2015

SeptimusDova wrote: »

In some states in the United States, third party recording without a warrant is a no go. You as an individual can waive a right. But you cannot waive a state right, or a state law. In these places the game industry really cannot take action. Not sure on Interstate law. I could ask a former co worker on that. EULA and TOS does not supersede or take place of laws.So if such recording takes place in those no go States it could be an issue for Game companies. It may be their server and IP yes. But the law makes no distinction and offers no shelter based on those terms. Pen trap and trace registers, voice registers and VOIP registers fall under that category. Section702a ( one interstate and international example)requires warrants, and or a notification process.

State examples below

AZ http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03005.htm
CO http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/colorado/
CT http://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/pub/chap925.htm#Sec52-570d.htm
DE http://www.delcode.delaware.gov/title11/c005/sc07/index.shtml specifically section 1335
HI http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol14_Ch0701-0853/HRS0803/HRS_0803-0042.htm
MI http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(wd3213tauihwezyk1nos22cx))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-539c
MN https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/statutes/?id=626A
TX http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CP/htm/CP.123.htm
OR ORS §§ 133.721 -133.739

On consent. Consent is not a one time check the box to play the game sort of thing relating to these laws. Consent has a specific meaning and process. Each call/session/transaction requires notification to the recorded party. At the beginning of the recording. Some states do not require consent on two party communications VA is one example. But under federal law all three party communications must involve consent from all parties. In the event of exigent circumstances three party communications can be recorded for law enforcement purposes or under the color of law.

Telecommunications Comapnies have exceptions under the law for CALEA compliance and in performance of mantaince duties and to protect their rights and interests a telecom is registered FCC entity and in adherence to FCC Part 68

If harassment and wrong doing are present actions can be taken but corporations are not barristers,magistrates or law enforcement.

That is the flip side of the coin. All it takes is that ONE gamer who decides that their profanity ban was the last straw in one of these states who decides to file a civil suit. The preponderance of evidence will fall on the corporation.The methods used are subject to scrutiny of law.

Thnx for doing this.

lsneakl · June 2015

nastuug wrote: »

lsneakl wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

Well the game is rated Mature, so that is their way out really. If you don't want to hear adult language don't play an adult game.

Pretty much this. That's the whole point of rating games/movies...

Actually....
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.jsp#13a

The online voice or text chat has NO bearing on the rating of a game. Mature rating has 0 things to do with what players say/do and 100% to do with game content.

"MATURE

Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language." -- Source: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

So what's your point?

That Voice Chat and Text Chat has no bearing on the rating of the game.... Whats not to understand?

The comment was about the game being rated mature so people should not care about what people are saying in voice chat from a language perspective. I am saying what a game is rated has no bearing on what is acceptable in voice chat.

A game being rated M has to do with content not voice chat.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=33890&Title=The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Imperial Edition&searchkeyword=elder scrolls online
Also if you look up Elder Scrolls Online on ESRB the rating is for: lood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence

There is no reference of language as a reason for the rating.

nastuug · June 2015

SeptimusDova wrote: »

That is the flip side of the coin. All it takes is that ONE gamer who decides that their profanity ban was the last straw in one of these states who decides to file a civil suit. The preponderance of evidence will fall on the corporation.The methods used are subject to scrutiny of law.

Only if said gamer actually had a proper lawyer to take his case on. Which, thankfully, the typical derp console gamer who acts like an ass 24/7 does not.

traigusb14_ESO2 · June 2015

nastuug wrote: »

SeptimusDova wrote: »

That is the flip side of the coin. All it takes is that ONE gamer who decides that their profanity ban was the last straw in one of these states who decides to file a civil suit. The preponderance of evidence will fall on the corporation.The methods used are subject to scrutiny of law.

Only if said gamer actually had a proper lawyer to take his case on. Which, thankfully, the typical derp console gamer who acts like an ass 24/7 does not.

I will represent myself! ... and I will dress up like Matlock while I do it!

nastuug · June 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

SeptimusDova wrote: »

That is the flip side of the coin. All it takes is that ONE gamer who decides that their profanity ban was the last straw in one of these states who decides to file a civil suit. The preponderance of evidence will fall on the corporation.The methods used are subject to scrutiny of law.

Only if said gamer actually had a proper lawyer to take his case on. Which, thankfully, the typical derp console gamer who acts like an ass 24/7 does not.

I will represent myself! ... and I will dress up like Matlock while I do it!

That would be hella awesome!

lsneakl · June 2015

traigusb14_ESO2 wrote: »

nastuug wrote: »

SeptimusDova wrote: »

That is the flip side of the coin. All it takes is that ONE gamer who decides that their profanity ban was the last straw in one of these states who decides to file a civil suit. The preponderance of evidence will fall on the corporation.The methods used are subject to scrutiny of law.

Only if said gamer actually had a proper lawyer to take his case on. Which, thankfully, the typical derp console gamer who acts like an ass 24/7 does not.

I will represent myself! ... and I will dress up like Matlock while I do it!

Or you have rich parents who would take up the case because their poor kid was banned from Xbox Live.

zachary4828 · June 2015

You mute them just like you would in text chat. I know this all seems very new and mind blowing, but this is the way console gaming is, and has been for years. If you want to understand how it works there is no mystery, put on a mic and start playing any multiplayer console game. Just like text chat in PC games voice chat is standard on consoles and works very well.

Speaking specifically to your fear. When was the last time a chat filter stopped anyone from telling you boobies, b00bies, B.O.O.B.I.E.S., b o o b i e s, 5oo5ies? Chat filters are there to make parents that don't know any better feel like their kids are safe from boobies, but we all know better.